Is it wrong that I don't want to donate blood or organs?

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WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: SLU MD
We dont sell the organ, we charge to put it in. big difference.
I highly doubt that, but let me ask you this; If I bring in my own organ for a transplant, will your hospital reject it, saying it's basicaly not "New York Hospital Certified Parts." or charge more because it's not "geniune?"

You dont know the first thing about transplant do you? They have to match you with a donor first. They are only going to reject it based on if you have certain diseases or if the organs have went downhill, such as liver cirrhosis.
So what you're saying is that the hospital is requiring me to use their own certified used organs instead of installing the cheaper just-as-good generic part I brought in. Sounds like a shady car dealership really. It'd be nice to use my own organs and save $15,000 (used for all the "tests" on the organs and donors, etc) from my $50,000 bill.

I think it's about time to refer you to the mods buddy, this is quite out of hand and offensive, you are discussing peoples lives here. You need to go back to your troll hole and not come out. Quite deplorable. I hope you enjoy your vacation from AT
:roll: Grow up. If you have a problem with my opinion, stop reading the thread. The only peoples' lives I'm discussing is my own. If you want to get all sensitive and private message the moderators about this ridiculous stuff, by all means go ahead. The rest of us will continue to have our civilized conversation.

Honestly you need to grow up. Thats fine for your opinion but it's no reason to attack me and others and throw around senseless claims that you cant back up. Spend some time in a decent hospital, we arent evil, we arent a monopoly, we're in the issue of saving lives and making people better any way we can. People like you give us a bad name for no particular reason.
Yeah, as long as you're getting paid right? I see hospitals for what they are, businesses...
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: SLU MD
We dont sell the organ, we charge to put it in. big difference.
I highly doubt that, but let me ask you this; If I bring in my own organ for a transplant, will your hospital reject it, saying it's basicaly not "New York Hospital Certified Parts." or charge more because it's not "geniune?"

You dont know the first thing about transplant do you? They have to match you with a donor first. They are only going to reject it based on if you have certain diseases or if the organs have went downhill, such as liver cirrhosis.
So what you're saying is that the hospital is requiring me to use their own certified used organs instead of installing the cheaper just-as-good generic part I brought in. Sounds like a shady car dealership really. It'd be nice to use my own organs and save $15,000 (used for all the "tests" on the organs and donors, etc) from my $50,000 bill.

I think it's about time to refer you to the mods buddy, this is quite out of hand and offensive, you are discussing peoples lives here. You need to go back to your troll hole and not come out. Quite deplorable. I hope you enjoy your vacation from AT
:roll: Grow up. If you have a problem with my opinion, stop reading the thread. The only peoples' lives I'm discussing is my own. If you want to get all sensitive and private message the moderators about this ridiculous stuff, by all means go ahead. The rest of us will continue to have our civilized conversation.

Honestly you need to grow up. Thats fine for your opinion but it's no reason to attack me and others and throw around senseless claims that you cant back up. Spend some time in a decent hospital, we arent evil, we arent a monopoly, we're in the issue of saving lives and making people better any way we can. People like you give us a bad name for no particular reason.
Yeah, as long as you're getting paid right? I see hospitals for what they are, businesses...

And guess what if we werent business who would take care of your a$$ when you got sick. If you have a better idea please pass it by me, and guess what yea I get paid but it aint about the money, it's about the people. My hospital sees 80,000-90,000 patients a year while our university health center sees 250,000 patients a year and most dont have insurance, i'm sure that makes us evil in your eyes.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: SLU MD
We dont sell the organ, we charge to put it in. big difference.
I highly doubt that, but let me ask you this; If I bring in my own organ for a transplant, will your hospital reject it, saying it's basicaly not "New York Hospital Certified Parts." or charge more because it's not "geniune?"

You dont know the first thing about transplant do you? They have to match you with a donor first. They are only going to reject it based on if you have certain diseases or if the organs have went downhill, such as liver cirrhosis.
So what you're saying is that the hospital is requiring me to use their own certified used organs instead of installing the cheaper just-as-good generic part I brought in. Sounds like a shady car dealership really. It'd be nice to use my own organs and save $15,000 (used for all the "tests" on the organs and donors, etc) from my $50,000 bill.

I think it's about time to refer you to the mods buddy, this is quite out of hand and offensive, you are discussing peoples lives here. You need to go back to your troll hole and not come out. Quite deplorable. I hope you enjoy your vacation from AT
:roll: Grow up. If you have a problem with my opinion, stop reading the thread. The only peoples' lives I'm discussing is my own. If you want to get all sensitive and private message the moderators about this ridiculous stuff, by all means go ahead. The rest of us will continue to have our civilized conversation.

Honestly you need to grow up. Thats fine for your opinion but it's no reason to attack me and others and throw around senseless claims that you cant back up. Spend some time in a decent hospital, we arent evil, we arent a monopoly, we're in the issue of saving lives and making people better any way we can. People like you give us a bad name for no particular reason.
Yeah, as long as you're getting paid right? I see hospitals for what they are, businesses...

And guess what if we werent business who would take care of your a$$ when you got sick. If you have a better idea please pass it by me, and guess what yea I get paid but it aint about the money, it's about the people. My hospital sees 80,000-90,000 patients a year while our university health center sees 250,000 patients a year and most dont have insurance, i'm sure that makes us evil in your eyes.
When you want a product or service from my business, I'll sell it to you. When I want a product or service from your business, I'll buy it from you. The difference is that I don't try to pretend I'm doing a selfless act for the "people."
 

Howard

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I sense the paranoia is strong in this one.

I still have no idea what your hypothesis is, by the way.
 

TraumaRN

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I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS
 

Powermoloch

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I donated my blood last year to the red cross......once you donated, expect alot of phone calls each in every few months lol :D
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
I think he's just got something against anybody involved in the health care conspiracy.

It's alright, Wyte. "They"'ll be there shortly to make everything alright again.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
I think he's just got something against anybody involved in the health care conspiracy.

It's alright, Wyte. "They"'ll be there shortly to make everything alright again.
Hey if you want to be a doctor I don't have a problem with it. It's a job, nothing more. Anyone who thinks doctors are extra special is full of it.
 

FleshLight

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Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
I think he's just got something against anybody involved in the health care conspiracy.

It's alright, Wyte. "They"'ll be there shortly to make everything alright again.
Hey if you want to be a doctor I don't have a problem with it. It's a job, nothing more. Anyone who thinks doctors are extra special is full of it.

Yep, anyone can survive 4 years of med school + 7 years of residency and still work long hours in a very stressful environment where lives are on the line.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
I think he's just got something against anybody involved in the health care conspiracy.

It's alright, Wyte. "They"'ll be there shortly to make everything alright again.
Hey if you want to be a doctor I don't have a problem with it. It's a job, nothing more. Anyone who thinks doctors are extra special is full of it.

Oh they're just normal people but I'd bet you wont be able to tell me how to properly treat a patient in metabolic acidosis with: high anion gap(23ish), venous CO2 of 7, markedly elevated BUN and creatinine levels, (94 and 8.5 respectively), and ABG's as follows pH 7.07, pCO2 27, pO2 110, HCO3 9.9 now would you? Now go back to your hole, I'll go back to work in the morning to help save lives without care about money or cost or anything like that. Apparently a concept you cant grasp.

/thread

Good night
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
I think he's just got something against anybody involved in the health care conspiracy.

It's alright, Wyte. "They"'ll be there shortly to make everything alright again.
Hey if you want to be a doctor I don't have a problem with it. It's a job, nothing more. Anyone who thinks doctors are extra special is full of it.

Yep, anyone can survive 4 years of med school + 7 years of residency and still work long hours in a very stressful environment where lives are on the line.
Obviously they should get paid more, I'm not disputing that.

 

Howard

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Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: WyteWatt
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I doubt you know what you are talking about, most of it is a selfless act, we treat the patient first, it's not a doctor or nurses job to worry about money. And we dont pretend to be selfless. It's our job to serve you and heal and help you to the best of our abilities.

If you want example of such an evil hospital try mine www.drhuhc.org and yes we're SO evil in saving the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people a year. You really need to make a decent point about hospital based care, blood and organ transplants and minorities.
Doctors don't worry about money because they get plenty of it. That said, I still hear doctors complaining about malpractice insurance all the time. It's either they're talking about how great it is to be able to help people or how much paying $$$$ for malpractice insurance sucks. Normally I wouldn't care since business is part of life and we all need to make money for ourselves and our families, but please cut the BS

What BS are you referring to?
I think he's just got something against anybody involved in the health care conspiracy.

It's alright, Wyte. "They"'ll be there shortly to make everything alright again.
Hey if you want to be a doctor I don't have a problem with it. It's a job, nothing more. Anyone who thinks doctors are extra special is full of it.

Yep, anyone can survive 4 years of med school + 7 years of residency and still work long hours in a very stressful environment where lives are on the line.
Obviously they should get paid more, I'm not disputing that.
You seem to have a problem with hospitals operating to cover their costs, though.
 

ElFenix

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goddamnit imtim83 can't you just get banned and stay that way?

edit: got my trolls confused
 

dudeman007

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Your reasoning is dumb. The blood is replenished within a day or two. Who cares about profit?...you are saving lives. If you ever need a blood transfusion they should just let you rot.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: Howard
You seem to have a problem with hospitals operating to cover their costs, though.
Doctors need extra training to do the work they do so they definitely deserve the extra money. However, l also know that hospitals are business and shouldn't expect to get goods like blood and organs for free to help their bottom line. If they want my blood, they're going to have to pay.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
goddamnit imtim83 can't you just get banned and stay that way?

edit: got my trolls confused

1. imtim83 doesn't exist. there is only wytewatt now.
2. if you have a problem with me, take it to private messages. stop following me around in random threads harrassing me.
 

Legendary

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OP, you are surely entitled to your opinion, and quite frankly, you're only one ignorant person among billions of people in the world, so I will still rest easy tonight, but I hope that one day, when you need a lifesaving transplant, you think about the person who donated that organ for you and thank them for not being as stupid as you are.
It is clear that:
1. you have no idea what the process of donating blood entails.
2. you have no idea what the process of running a hospital entails.
3. you have no idea how many problems would arise from legalizing the use of improperly removed and cared for organs.
4. you have never known a good doctor in your life.
5. you are out of touch with reality.

I hope that both one day your ignorance comes back to harm you and that Darwinism is applied to you in the strictest manner.

Edit: If you are the person formerly known as imtim83, I retract my remark about Darwinism, as it is virtually guaranteed that you will never reproduce.