Is it wrong that I don't want to donate blood or organs?

[Howard]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: edro
Because $500 is cheap considering the testing and collection fees that are needed to process your crappy blood.

I don't think they really test/process all the blood they collect though.

They don't test the blood that's used for people without insurance (aka minority people's blood).

You mean they have separate storage tanks/facilities for minorities?

No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

Proof?

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Eli
No; I don't either.

But not for the same reasons you do.

 

[Viper GTS]

In spite of the fact that my insurance company paid $16K for my cornea transplant I am forever indebted to the person who donated it.

Hospitals have every right to charge for their services, but there are some things they can't make from scratch. Organ donations change people's lives, if you're not going to need them anymore why wouldn't you donate them?

Viper GTS

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Blood is like gas. As it gets rarer (which it is), it gets more expensive.

How does blood get "rarer"?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Blood is like gas. As it gets rarer (which it is), it gets more expensive.

How does blood get "rarer"?

Certain types are rare.

 

[Midlander]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: edro
Because $500 is cheap considering the testing and collection fees that are needed to process your crappy blood.

I don't think they really test/process all the blood they collect though.

They don't test the blood that's used for people without insurance (aka minority people's blood).

You mean they have separate storage tanks/facilities for minorities?

No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

Where did you get this idea? Have you researched it? This is nuts.

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: WyteWatt
No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

You've got to be kidding. Are you really proposing that hospitals are passing around possibly AIDS-infected blood to uninsured patients?!

I have insurance so I know I'll get the good blood

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt (Referring to bird flu)
It's only getting "worst" in areas that aren't the United States so I don't care.

You can either do what's "right" or what's "profitable" I prefer the latter thank you very much

Dude, are you for real? If so I think you may be evil...

 

[jumpr]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: WyteWatt
No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

You've got to be kidding. Are you really proposing that hospitals are passing around possibly AIDS-infected blood to uninsured patients?!

I have insurance so I know I'll get the good blood

That doesn't answer my question at all.

 

[SLU MD]

Originally posted by: Midlander

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: edro
Because $500 is cheap considering the testing and collection fees that are needed to process your crappy blood.

I don't think they really test/process all the blood they collect though.

They don't test the blood that's used for people without insurance (aka minority people's blood).

You mean they have separate storage tanks/facilities for minorities?

No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

This is just stupid. One of the most retarded things i've ever heard.

slu M.D.

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: WyteWatt
No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

You've got to be kidding. Are you really proposing that hospitals are passing around possibly AIDS-infected blood to uninsured patients?!

I have insurance so I know I'll get the good blood

That doesn't answer my question at all.

Let me put it this way... hospitals are businesses and a business's goal is to make MORE money. What is the least profitable market? Uninsured people. Get it?

 

[Viper GTS]

You are either a troll, or a complete idiot.

Or maybe just a Democrat.

Viper GTS

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Blood is like gas. As it gets rarer (which it is), it gets more expensive.

How does blood get "rarer"?

Certain types are rare.

How does it get "rarer"? People don't donate it, so it becomes less availible and thus rarer. Right? I'm trying to use an analogy to make it EASY for the stupid people to understand why blood is expensive.

Remember way back when to Sept. 11. (not that it was that long ago), my father works at a hospital, and when EVERYBODY came in to donate blood, not a single unit of that blood whent to the people in NYC (let me remind you I live on Long Island, about 100 or less miles from NYC). All of that blood that the hospital now had was kept by the hospital so they didn't need to buy any blood. Thus saving the other blood for the NYC people were they normally buy it from.

What people again don't understand is that (at least this hospital) is ALWAYS short on blood. It always has to buy blood from wereever they get it. That increases the price of blood, with transportation (blood is transfered frozen i think), etc. costs added into it.

So for all the people saying that blood is expensive, STFU because more people need to donate it to make it go down. UNLIKE gas blood can be replaced and I consider it a renewable resource.

Gas prices will probably NEVER go down (and if it does it'll be a couple of cents) but if more people contributed to donating blood then the price might go down.

(but lets get to reality people, I'm guessing that a lot of america couldn't give a rats ass whether or not they donated blood or not)

/rant

Edit: Your probably wondering if I donate blood right? I can't since I'm too young still (i think) but I will in the future, and I bet your also wondering if my father (who works in a blood bank) donates blood, he can't either but thats for different reasons.

 

[jumpr]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: WyteWatt
No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

You've got to be kidding. Are you really proposing that hospitals are passing around possibly AIDS-infected blood to uninsured patients?!

I have insurance so I know I'll get the good blood

That doesn't answer my question at all.

Let me put it this way... hospitals are businesses and a business's goal is to make MORE money. What is the least profitable market? Uninsured people. Get it?

No, I don't.

Answer my question: are you saying that hospitals distribute blood that's not tested for infections and diseases to uninsured patients? Do you realize that doctors and hospital administrators have strict ethical codes that they must follow, no matter how unprofitable they may be?

 

[jumpr]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
You are either a troll, or a complete idiot.

Or maybe just a Democrat.

Viper GTS

Perhaps you're the troll.

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
In spite of the fact that my insurance company paid $16K for my cornea transplant I am forever indebted to the person who donated it.

Hospitals have every right to charge for their services, but there are some things they can't make from scratch. Organ donations change people's lives, if you're not going to need them anymore why wouldn't you donate them?

Viper GTS

I'm not going to give them away because the hospital just resells them. I'll take my organs to the grave. I'd be willing to sell the rights to my orgrans to any hospital that's will to bid a respectable sum. There is absolutely no reason to give away my organs when doctors and hospitals are raking in all that cash. Maybe if they worked for free I wouldn't have a problem.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt
There is absolutely no reason to give away my organs when doctors and hospitals are raking in all that cash. Maybe if they worked for free I wouldn't have a problem.

Why should doctors work for free? Do you work for fvking free?

/edit: dont wanna get banned

 

[Strk]

If you do donate, careful with providing contact information. I didn't when I was 18 and donated blood for the first time. It's nice to donate and all, but it sure is annoying once they find out you're O positive and healthy; they don't stop calling you!

 

[Midlander]

:beer: to those who donate blood or organs.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SLU MD
This is just stupid. One of the most retarded things i've ever heard.

slu M.D.

Hey, a doctor. I have a question. If I have a tuberculin skin test, can I give blood the very next day?

 

[Kalvin00]

i dont really want to donate blood..

i have no problem with shots...but ill pass on giving blood..

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: WyteWatt
There is absolutely no reason to give away my organs when doctors and hospitals are raking in all that cash. Maybe if they worked for free I wouldn't have a problem.

Why should doctors work for free? Do you work for fvking free?

/edit: dont wanna get banned

Do you give away your computer on the FS/T forum? Didn't think so... I'm not going to do the same with my organs and blood.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
In spite of the fact that my insurance company paid $16K for my cornea transplant I am forever indebted to the person who donated it.

Hospitals have every right to charge for their services, but there are some things they can't make from scratch. Organ donations change people's lives, if you're not going to need them anymore why wouldn't you donate them?

Viper GTS

I'm not going to give them away because the hospital just resells them. I'll take my organs to the grave. I'd be willing to sell the rights to my orgrans to any hospital that's will to bid a respectable sum. There is absolutely no reason to give away my organs when doctors and hospitals are raking in all that cash. Maybe if they worked for free I wouldn't have a problem.

The hospital is not selling the organs, they are selling the services associated with installing them.

Take me for example, I had a cornea transplant 4 months ago. They cut off the front of my eye, & stitched in a new cornea. The final product looked like this:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/ViperGTS/cornea6weeks.jpg

Now what do you think it cost to do that?

The cornea had to be harvested, transported, tested, and stored until it was time for my operation.

The doctor had YEARS of schooling to be able to pull something like that off (and do such a beautiful job of stitching it in).

There were also dozens of support staff involved, everywhere from the janitor who swept the floor the night before to the receptionist to the people who wheeled me into the operating room.

Yes, the operation cost a sh!tload of money. $16K for 45 minutes of time in the OR.

Worth every frickin' penny, & it was all made possible by someone who recognized the value in donating their organs.

Viper GTS

 

[SLU MD]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
In spite of the fact that my insurance company paid $16K for my cornea transplant I am forever indebted to the person who donated it.

Hospitals have every right to charge for their services, but there are some things they can't make from scratch. Organ donations change people's lives, if you're not going to need them anymore why wouldn't you donate them?

Viper GTS

I'm not going to give them away because the hospital just resells them. I'll take my organs to the grave. I'd be willing to sell the rights to my orgrans to any hospital that's will to bid a respectable sum. There is absolutely no reason to give away my organs when doctors and hospitals are raking in all that cash. Maybe if they worked for free I wouldn't have a problem.

If us doctors worked for free then how would we pay off the $150,000 debt that was accrued during medical school? We would be short doctors if it didnt pay well. Who would work their ass off for 80 hours a week and not draw a paycheck greater than $45,000 till age 30 if it didnt pay well after that?

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: edro
Because $500 is cheap considering the testing and collection fees that are needed to process your crappy blood.

I don't think they really test/process all the blood they collect though.

They don't test the blood that's used for people without insurance (aka minority people's blood).

You mean they have separate storage tanks/facilities for minorities?

No, I mean that people without insurance get free blood that comes from other people without insurance. Most of those happen to be minorities... and yes they use separate tanks. It wouldn't make sense to mix tested blood with untested blood.

So maybe they should get health insurance then?