Is it too early to call Trump a terrible President?

[ch33zw1z]

Yeah right. Hillary calling the right The Deplorables. The # 1 enemy is the republicans etc... and many many more examples.

You know it and I know it.

So nothing about Trump's wall, a Muslim ban, no?

Deplorable is all you got. In some regard, she makes a fair point as well. The hate for others we see from the Cons is intense and focused.

But please, by all means, continue with your honesty.

Republicans aren't the #1 enemy, people who don't want to embrace America for what it is, and refuse to accept that you don't have to be a white Christian to be American are.

If these people happen to be Republican, oh well

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don't think that is true. As I read this you feel like the only reason Trump won the election is because conservatives voted for him out of hate for someone or some group of people. I think they voted due to being fed up with the government and politicians as they have been for decades. They wanted and desired a change from the same old lies and BS.

So do Dem's. Just to be totally honest about it.

Not all Cons voted for him out of hate and fear, but it is indeed how he won the election.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Regarding the OP: No, it's not too early. Many expected a 1 star rating.

 

[ivwshane]

So you think his incompetence so far is entirely down to inexperience? Nothing whatsoever to do with his malignant narcissism, his volatile temperament, his rampant dishonesty, his inability to accept any sort of criticism?

I think you're just trying to come across as even handed here.

I am trying to be unbiased as I find the man repulsive as I do most of the company he keeps. However we don't elect a president to be our buddy or someone we'd have a beer with so I'm trying to set aside my personal feelings and judge him on the merits. He was elected because of things he promised and despite the fact that I disagree with his policies I will judge him based on his achievements and as of right now its hard to say his lack of achievements isn't due to his inexperience.

 

[FIVR]

I'm watching Morning Joe and their whole panel is all nodding their heads about Trumps "New Awesome Foreign Policy Team!" . If you switch over to CNN (also supposedly a liberal network) you have a bunch of people talking about how "100 days is a made up measurement" and how great Trump's support is amongst his prior supporters. I'm not even going to bother turning the channel to FOX, because I know they also love Trump. Trump is love. Trump is life. We all love Trump, even when we hate him. He's amazing, even when he's terrible.



Is Trump a terrible president? Not according to MSNBC. Not according to CNN. Not according to the US media. He's just another regular, normal president. Nothing to see here, both sides do it!

 

[desura]

I'm watching Morning Joe and their whole panel is all nodding their heads about Trumps "New Awesome Foreign Policy Team!" . If you switch over to CNN (also supposedly a liberal network) you have a bunch of people talking about how "100 days is a made up measurement" and how great Trump's support is amongst his prior supporters. I'm not even going to bother turning the channel to FOX, because I know they also love Trump. Trump is love. Trump is life. We all love Trump, even when we hate him. He's amazing, even when he's terrible.



Is Trump a terrible president? Not according to MSNBC. Not according to CNN. Not according to the US media. He's just another regular, normal president. Nothing to see here, both sides do it!

I think Morning Joe probably is the best political talk show there is because it is influential among actual politicians, Trump included, and it shows a fair amount of inside baseball.

Scarborough I think voted HRC. He had this one line before the election, "you had me at thermonuclear war." I think he's been trying since the election to influence Trump, who watches the show, into making better decisions for the country.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I just feel the need to point out that at this point in his presidency, George W. Bush was mostly known for vacationing a lot. (Sound familiar?) We can't know what will happen even in just the next year.

Doesn't everyone get that? Bush was down on his ranch property all the time (didn't mean he wasn't working) - Similar for Obama and golfing. There is a distrinct difference between golfing with Tiger Woods and golfing with the president of China, though.

Point being, I'm sure in all cases the concept of "vacation" is being looked at through a narrow lens of someone that hates the particular president.

 

[brycejones]

Actually he said:

"Congratulations on behalf of Melania and myself and the entire nation. Tremendous,"

Why was it a rare and great honor when Obama did it and not when Trump does it?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2011/10/11/nr-lawrence-obama-purple-heart-hospital.cnn

I believe you are completely missing the point. Trump is under fire on this one not for awarding the Purple Heart (something I am completely ok with a President doing) but in the way he did it. A Purple Heart is an acknowledgement of ones sacrifice in service to the country. It is something to be proud of certainly but you don't go around congratulating people who have been seriously injured in combat. Congrats you lost a leg isn't really the correct tone.

I don't care that Trump invited the media along but when Obama did it he did it privately this feels like Trump trying to do it more to garner positive attention than out of a genuine desire to acknowledge the soldier's sacrifice.

My opinions your mileage will vary.

 

[K1052]

Doesn't everyone get that? Bush was down on his ranch property all the time (didn't mean he wasn't working) - Similar for Obama and golfing. There is a distrinct difference between golfing with Tiger Woods and golfing with the president of China, though.

Point being, I'm sure in all cases the concept of "vacation" is being looked at through a narrow lens of someone that hates the particular president.

Trump golfed with PM of Japan not the President of China, who notably really hates golf. That said for Trump to have criticized Obama for doing something that he does habitually makes him even more of an asshole.

Is Trump working at Mar-A-Lago? Of course. The question of should he be there at all considering the vast sums of public money he's torching through to facilitate his weekend getaways. It's also the opposite of what he said he would do. As usual.

 

[ch33zw1z]

He's screwing the small business owners down there also, lulz.

 

[Puffnstuff]

When the first lady has to nudge the guy to place his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance you know its going to be a good 4 years.

 

[desura]

The best case scenario for Trump is that he is incompetent and a fool and he embarrasses us and costs us a few billion dollars in unnecessary expenses.

Worst case scenario is a terrorist attack happens and we get WOT 2.0 with Trump at the lead.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Yes, it is! He even called it "tremendous."

As I've heard it, soldiers generally aren't proud of Purple Hearts (there may be exceptions if they were wounded while doing something particularly heroic). It amounts to an enemy marksmanship badge.

So Trump made this guy a hero because he was wounded? He's not a hero. I like soldiers who weren't wounded.

 

[Younigue]

Yes, I feel like our conversation has been respectful all the way around.

I never meant to imply that you were a lost cause at all. It just seems to me reading the things that you write when you are discussing Trump that you are consumed with hatred for someone that you don't even know personally. Then again context is hard to garner from mere written words.

I don't in this instance need to know him personally. He's every where a person turns. There's no getting away from him. For such a shady underhanded creep he is remarkably open. He promotes himself as a victim, an open wound, thin-skinned as well as a person with dubious connections, deplorable social and political skills (hell, most non-politicians are better politically skilled in their own day to day maneuvering through life), he's even written books expressing how disturbingly immoral he is willing to be, lack of comprehension in general. All of this is in plain view and why I have the feelings I have about this reprehensible President.

My context isn't that difficult to deduce. He's a disaster therefore a terrible President. There are no excuses to be made for him yet so many people excuse his behavior, his words, his meaning, his blatant disrespect for all.

Hillary apologized for the "deplorables" remark. Trump rarely apologizes no matter how deplorable he has been and continues to be.

I'm not about comparing him to other Presidents or politicians. He stands on his own, which is what the people [who voted for him] wanted. It is a cop out and a cheap move to compare his words and actions to anyone else. He is a stand alone filthy politician and a stand out disgrace.

 

[jackstar7]

That was odd that one word. But then again Trump is always throwing around words like that Tremendous, Great, Wonderful ... Listen to any of his speaking engagements and you will hear the same. I really don't think he means it is a tremendous thing that the soldier was wounded.

It is just part of his normal speaking pattern in my opinion.

What are your thoughts on this word?

If I give the most generosity, then he was saying it was his tremendous honor to be presenting the award.

More realistically is as you say, it's just his speaking style, which makes it basically hideous. These are people for whom the greatest level of respect should be shown, including controlling the words you let outta your mouth. To Trump I would say, get your shit together. Watch your damn mouth. Rise to the occasion.

 

[BurnItDwn]

No, the proper time to declare trump a terrible president was the day he took office.

 

[theeedude]

http://fusion.net/trump-is-stoked-that-he-and-9-11-both-killed-it-in-the-1794589385

AP: I remember, right.

TRUMP: It had 9.2 million people. It’s the highest they’ve ever had. On any, on air, (CBS “Face the Nation” host John) Dickerson had 5.2 million people. It’s the highest for “Face the Nation” or as I call it, “Deface the Nation.

TRUMP (continued) It’s the highest for “Deface the Nation” since the World Trade Center. Since the World Trade Center came down. It’s a tremendous advantage.

Right on que.

 

[jackstar7]

http://fusion.net/trump-is-stoked-that-he-and-9-11-both-killed-it-in-the-1794589385

Right on que.

Reinforcing my point about his idiot mouth and lack of respect.

 

[xthetenth]

Hillary apologized for the "deplorables" remark.

Frankly, that's a shame. You don't need to apologize for being right.

 

[HomerJS]

Despite everything 96% of the people who voted for him would do it again. Nation is going down fast