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Where did you hear the reports that Saudi Arabia is becoming Westernized? In Iran they too have stores such as Victoria Secret. They even sell mini skirts at most stores. The wives are allowed to please their husbands. Does this mean they are becoming westernized? By no means can they wear that stuff outside in public and the same goes for the people of Saudi Arabia. You can get rid of Islamic Law governments and even be a free M.E that does not mean you can change the culture. Even if Iran is free by no means will Iran ever be like the West. There will always be people who question why you are holding a woman's hand or why a woman is wearing such revealing clothes. The Shah of Iran didn't impose any religious laws on his people yet the culture did not allow my dad to freely walk in the streets holding some girl's hand. There were parts of Iran where you could do that freely, but there are also parts where people will chase you and kick your ass.
Even when Saddam was ruling Iraq and let women do what they wanted, I am sure there were many areas in Iraq where women were treated like dogs if they didn't dress modestly. Go outside Baghdad and Tehran and you will face problems. The more populated areas seem to be the more educated and more liberal.

The people of Iran speak English not to be like the West, but to escape their country. The people want a change, but how will they get a change? Iranians don't want a civil war. Even going back to the Shah people demanded a change and things were getting very out of hand. The Shah could have stayed and fought and he did have a large backing to help him stay in power. He fled because he didn't want to kill any Iranians (He's still an Ahole though). When my girlfriend went to Iran the first thing her cousins told her to do was to speak to them in English and describe the U.S (mainly the schools/jobs) "Is everything true like the way we see on the satellite stations coming from California". Their goal is not to come to the West and lose their culture. Iranians have a very deep culture that will forever stay with them. They have no economic freedoms in Iran and they want their freedom. Everything in Iran is underground. Underground beer (they make their own), underground parties, underground clubs. Etc. Why live underground for the rest of your life?

There are plenty of schools in Saudi Arabia that are not financed by the government. Those schools can teach what they want. There are lots of reports out where people have interviewed the students at those schools and in many cases they have expressed a deep hate for the West because of what they learned. This is even known to happen in the public sector of the school system where Saudi schools teach to "hate the Jews". The government of Saudi Arabia is actually better than the people IMO. The Royal Pigs have lost touch with the people of Saudi Arabia and that is why the streets are turning into everyday battles. Maybe this is a small percent of the population, I don't know. But this small percent seems to connect more to the people than the royal family.

This is a country that does not allow women to drive. Are they even allowed to get jobs? This is a country that let children burn in a fire because men were not allowed to enter the school. I think this goes beyond "more" religious and actually turns into dangerous.

Read these comments by people who have lived in SA:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4071831.stm

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
I'm not denying the Iranian government has issues with terrorism. The government is everything I wish it wasn't. You are more than welcome to bash the Iranian goverment if you want, it won't bother me. If I had my way I would kill all those crazy mullahs. Iran is not a place I would live or visit anytime in the near future. The only Iranians I know are my parents and my girlfriend. I don't even speak Farsi or know anything about the culture other than what I read online.

How can you say terrorist are not coming in from SA? Where is the evidence of this? The people of SA would strap bombs to their chest and blow themselves up. No they don't just talk about it. They actually do it. Talking and carrying out these actions is totally different. These very people talk about going and fighting for their life.

These links prove they come from Saudi Arabia:
http://english.aljazeera.net/N...-A57F-0B3CCB8A5C8C.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97074,00.html

These two links seem to suggest only a handful are foreign:
http://www.iraq.net/displayarticle4632.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w...5-detainees-usat_x.htm

Nowhere does it say the majority of them are from Iran or Syria. Nowhere does it mention the U.S going off on Saudi Arabia for letting them slip into Iraq, but they critize Iran and Syria for letting people come in.

Actual terrorists are NOT COMING FROM S ARABIA!!!! thats why noone says they are, only you are saying because of your pro Iran and anti Saudi views. S Arabia is a evil nation that most likely caused 9/11, however Iran is the chief sponsor of terror

and yes, most of these terrorist thugs are coming from Syria and Iran, deny it all you want
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
I'm not denying the Iranian government has issues with terrorism. The government is everything I wish it wasn't. You are more than welcome to bash the Iranian goverment if you want, it won't bother me. If I had my way I would kill all those crazy mullahs. Iran is not a place I would live or visit anytime in the near future. The only Iranians I know are my parents and my girlfriend. I don't even speak Farsi or know anything about the culture other than what I read online.

How can you say terrorist are not coming in from SA? Where is the evidence of this? The people of SA would strap bombs to their chest and blow themselves up. No they don't just talk about it. They actually do it. Talking and carrying out these actions is totally different. These very people talk about going and fighting for their life.

These links prove they come from Saudi Arabia:
http://english.aljazeera.net/N...-A57F-0B3CCB8A5C8C.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97074,00.html

These two links seem to suggest only a handful are foreign:
http://www.iraq.net/displayarticle4632.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w...5-detainees-usat_x.htm

Nowhere does it say the majority of them are from Iran or Syria. Nowhere does it mention the U.S going off on Saudi Arabia for letting them slip into Iraq, but they critize Iran and Syria for letting people come in.

Actual terrorists are NOT COMING FROM S ARABIA!!!! thats why noone says they are, only you are saying because of your pro Iran and anti Saudi views. S Arabia is a evil nation that most likely caused 9/11, however Iran is the chief sponsor of terror

and yes, most of these terrorist thugs are coming from Syria and Iran, deny it all you want

Show me how I am pro-Iran? I have lots of knowledge on Iran and that makes me pro-Iranian? anti-saudi views? You can be pro-Saudi Arabian if you want. That doesn't do any good. Do you know the people of Saudi Arabia? Do you know what kind of people live there? I don't think you do. I also think you have very limited knowledge of the region and you get your information from White House briefings and FoxNews.

Anyone who says NO terrorist are coming from Saudi Arabia needs to switch news channels. Do you know anyone who has been to Saudi Arabia? Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia? Do you know about the different sects of Islam and why there are problems in that region?

According to that first link, 5,000 people from SA are fighting in Iraq. They just happen to cross into Iraq from Syria instead of SA? You do know the borders are not closed don't you? They have every right to go to Iraq from SA so why would they go from Syria if they could just go from SA? Because Mr.Bush said SA is our friend that makes them perfect?
 

DeeKnow

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Originally posted by: Aimster

Who said oil has to be all their income? In most countries oil is only 10-20% of their GDP.


Aimster.... it does you no good to advertise your ignorance like this... 10-20% of GDP???

Iran, Saudi, Abu Dhabi, Libya, Algeria,.... and a whole bunch of others depend on oil for over 75% of their GDP. Yes that's 75%, not 7.5%

You say your parents are Iranian...? I think you should spend a little time reading up on the country and the region.....
 

DeeKnow

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Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster

Who said oil has to be all their income? In most countries oil is only 10-20% of their GDP.


Aimster.... it does you no good to advertise your ignorance like this... 10-20% of GDP???

Iran, Saudi, Abu Dhabi, Libya, Algeria,.... and a whole bunch of others depend on oil for over 75% of their GDP. Yes that's 75%, not 7.5%

You say your parents are Iranian...? I think you should spend a little time reading up on the country and the region.....

I think you should stop pulling numbers out of your ass. 75%? I love how that number was pulled from your ass when 40% of Iran's GDP is from the black market. Iran is the number #1 producer of steel in the region and they are on track to sell 500,000 cars a year. They also sell half a billion dollars worth of military equipment. Not to mention their strong agriculture sector which is decling but is still steady at 30-35%. The service section which is not all oil accounts for 50% of Iran's GDP.

The governments get most of the money from oil. They own the oil unlike the rest of the world. Does that mean their GDP = 75% oil. I think not.

Oil Revenue for Iran in 1996 was 18 billion. So are you suggesting that 18 billion is 75% of Iran's GDP in 1996?

Another lost soul who doesn't know the region. Telling me to look up my facts, yeah ok.
 

Drift3r

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My solution is to lock the borders up. What business does any Iranian have going to and from Iraq? They don't even speak the same language. Send more troops there. *my only guess is the holly sites?*

Syria is home to all the Saddam loyalist. Crack down on their borders more.

Saudi Arabia needs to do more, but nobody is saying much to them. They have a one of the largest borders with Iraq, but I wonder if the Royal police do a good job of monitoring it. Hell I bet $5 will get you in.

What business does anyone have going to Iraq unless they are an Iraqi citizen or working with the forces there?


We don't have right to lock up their border not to mention the ability to do so. Sorry but once the elections are held we are effectively a occupying army in a sovereign nation. When the Iraqi government tells us to leave what are we going to do ? We can't say no because that would undermine the government and just make your average Iraqi hate us even more for being unwanted guests.

The situation is screwed either way. You stay to long and you get a popular revolt and chaos, if you stay to short then a civil war breaks out. Choose your poison and don't complain as the obvious solution to this whole mess was to of never of sent ground troops into Iraq. We could of easily of supported the Kurds and Shiites with weapons and air cover and had them over throw Saddam and deal with their problems. In fact we had the Kurds so well supplied, armed and protected from the skies that they set up their own autonomies region in the North. I wonder why we didn't do the same with the Iraqi Shiites ?

 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster

Who said oil has to be all their income? In most countries oil is only 10-20% of their GDP.


Aimster.... it does you no good to advertise your ignorance like this... 10-20% of GDP???

Iran, Saudi, Abu Dhabi, Libya, Algeria,.... and a whole bunch of others depend on oil for over 75% of their GDP. Yes that's 75%, not 7.5%

You say your parents are Iranian...? I think you should spend a little time reading up on the country and the region.....

I think you should stop pulling numbers out of your ass. 75%? I love how that number was pulled from your ass when 40% of Iran's GDP is from the black market. Iran is the number #1 producer of steel in the region and they are on track to sell 500,000 cars a year. They also sell half a billion dollars worth of military equipment. Not to mention their strong agriculture sector which is decling but is still steady at 30-35%. The service section which is not all oil accounts for 50% of Iran's GDP.

The governments get most of the money from oil. They own the oil unlike the rest of the world. Does that mean their GDP = 75% oil. I think not.

Oil Revenue for Iran in 1996 was 18 billion. So are you suggesting that 18 billion is 75% of Iran's GDP in 1996?

Another lost soul who doesn't know the region. Telling me to look up my facts, yeah ok.

Aimster, without oil, Middle east is just as poor, if not poorer, than Africa.
 

raildogg

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

why yes he does, Iran Iran Iran.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

why yes he does, Iran Iran Iran.

Yeah I must, in two threads I go Iran Iran and I turn into pro-Iranian. If Iran has oil revenue of 18 billion and their GDP is much higher than that, then without oil how will they turn into an Africa? It's not my problem you don't know the region and assume it is just one pile of sand that has only oil as revenue.
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...

I don't care if you take me serious or not because after you posted the thread about the FBI tapping your phone line and "government looking cars" outside your house I can't help but laugh. Seriously, you are going to tell me that Sunnis and Shiites are not Arabs?? You are going to tell me that Iraq/Iran war didn't take place?? You are going to tell me that Syria doesn't control Lebanon?? Did Iraq not invade Kuwait?? I can go on and on and I brought up the Arab league of nations which is further proof that Arabs can't get alone with one another. I guess that CIVIL WAR in Iraq that is soon going to take is between Aliens and Chinese.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...

I don't care if you take me serious or not because after you posted the thread about the FBI tapping your phone line and "government looking cars" outside your house I can't help but laugh. Seriously, you are going to tell me that Sunnis and Shiites are not Arabs?? You are going to tell me that Iraq/Iran war didn't take place?? You are going to tell me that Syria doesn't control Lebanon?? Did Iraq not invade Kuwait?? I can go on and on and I brought up the Arab league of nations which is further proof that Arabs can't get alone with one another. I guess that CIVIL WAR in Iraq that is soon going to take is between Aliens and Chinese.

What does Iraq-Iran war have to do with anything? It just proves my point because in the M.E it is called the Persian-Arab war. Keep trying. Iranians are not Arab. Lack of information about the region. Stop posting.

The majority of Arabs are Sunni, and not even close to being Shia. The only large Shia state that belongs to an Arab nation is Iraq. Keep trying.

Lebanon a population of 3 million with 30% of those being non-Muslim. I love how you compare that with the Arab nations. You telling me the people of Lebanon do not get along with Syria? OK.

Keep trying.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...

I don't care if you take me serious or not because after you posted the thread about the FBI tapping your phone line and "government looking cars" outside your house I can't help but laugh. Seriously, you are going to tell me that Sunnis and Shiites are not Arabs?? You are going to tell me that Iraq/Iran war didn't take place?? You are going to tell me that Syria doesn't control Lebanon?? Did Iraq not invade Kuwait?? I can go on and on and I brought up the Arab league of nations which is further proof that Arabs can't get alone with one another. I guess that CIVIL WAR in Iraq that is soon going to take is between Aliens and Chinese.

Aimster already has his mind made up, no point in changing his false views. BTW, most people killed in Iraq at the hands of terrorists are fellow Arabs. Shows you the love, eh.

Middle eastern countries and countries all over the world make allies which serve their best interests. Iraq couldnt care less if Kuwait was an Arab country or not, its interest was to take its great oil reserves. It serves the Saudi's, Iranians interests to keep the US bogged down in Iraq so it wouldnt focus its attention on them.

The Axis of Evil should have had 4 members - Iran, Iraq, N Korea and SAUDI ARABIA
 

BarneyFife

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Is this little kid really that dense? He asked me to show him proof that Arabs fight with one another and I just showed it to him. Its like I'm talking to a wall. He thinks that Iraq/Iran aren't Arabs. He also thinks that Syria and Lebanon aren't Arabs either. Does this kid know anything about the Civil war in Lebanon? Oh wait, they aren't Arabs. They must be Germans.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...

I don't care if you take me serious or not because after you posted the thread about the FBI tapping your phone line and "government looking cars" outside your house I can't help but laugh. Seriously, you are going to tell me that Sunnis and Shiites are not Arabs?? You are going to tell me that Iraq/Iran war didn't take place?? You are going to tell me that Syria doesn't control Lebanon?? Did Iraq not invade Kuwait?? I can go on and on and I brought up the Arab league of nations which is further proof that Arabs can't get alone with one another. I guess that CIVIL WAR in Iraq that is soon going to take is between Aliens and Chinese.

What does Iraq-Iran war have to do with anything? It just proves my point because in the M.E it is called the Persian-Arab war. Keep trying. Iranians are not Arab. Lack of information about the region. Stop posting.

The majority of Arabs are Sunni, and not even close to being Shia. The only large Shia state that belongs to an Arab nation is Iraq. Keep trying.

Lebanon a population of 3 million with 30% of those being non-Muslim. I love how you compare that with the Arab nations. You telling me the people of Lebanon do not get along with Syria? OK.

Keep trying.

What about lebanon????????? Syria??? a great number of shia Arabs live there. get you own facts straight
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...

I don't care if you take me serious or not because after you posted the thread about the FBI tapping your phone line and "government looking cars" outside your house I can't help but laugh. Seriously, you are going to tell me that Sunnis and Shiites are not Arabs?? You are going to tell me that Iraq/Iran war didn't take place?? You are going to tell me that Syria doesn't control Lebanon?? Did Iraq not invade Kuwait?? I can go on and on and I brought up the Arab league of nations which is further proof that Arabs can't get alone with one another. I guess that CIVIL WAR in Iraq that is soon going to take is between Aliens and Chinese.

What does Iraq-Iran war have to do with anything? It just proves my point because in the M.E it is called the Persian-Arab war. Keep trying. Iranians are not Arab. Lack of information about the region. Stop posting.

The majority of Arabs are Sunni, and not even close to being Shia. The only large Shia state that belongs to an Arab nation is Iraq. Keep trying.

Lebanon a population of 3 million with 30% of those being non-Muslim. I love how you compare that with the Arab nations. You telling me the people of Lebanon do not get along with Syria? OK.

Keep trying.

What about lebanon????????? Syria??? a great number of shia Arabs live there. get you own facts straight

Oh heaven forbid I forgot a country like Lebanon. "You forgot Poland". You must get a kick out of this one.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: Aimster


What makes you think Arabs don't get along? Show me evidence they don't get along.
Show me evidence they are concerned about Israel.

a) watch TV
b) read the newspapers
c) get hold of some books about the region
d) visit the damn place... or at least ask ppl who've been there

and ohhh...

e) switch on your brain

1) In what way don't they get along? Show me evidence they don't get along. People disagree all the time. The U.S and Europe disagree about a lot of things. Does that mean We don't get along with Europe?

You have yet to give me evidence that they don't get along.

Arabs getting along HA HA HA. I live in Michigan and the Chaldeans and Muslims hate each other. You are in complete denial about Arabs and you again bring IRAN in every thread. So yes, you are Pro-Iran and admit it.

I brought up Iran in this thread.. yeah ok lets see they are right next to Iraq and I was commenting on their borders. Someone brought up M.E countries not being able to survive without oil I pointed it out and said that's incorrect. I'm sorry if I just happen to know more information on Iran than Kuwait. The only other thread I brought it up was that India thread where I compared the population growth (oh I guess I cannot do that now either).

Also nobody takes you seriously. You wish death on the U.S soldiers. You love to hear news that they are dying. If you think Im going to believe you know any Arabs when all your threads are full of hate think again. You hate the world and you come here and tell me you know Arabs hate each other? OK. Last time I checked this is the U.S not some Arab countries living in the U.S. I don't care if Bob hates John and both happen to be Arab. Nice evidence that Arabs hate each other. BRAVO ...

I don't care if you take me serious or not because after you posted the thread about the FBI tapping your phone line and "government looking cars" outside your house I can't help but laugh. Seriously, you are going to tell me that Sunnis and Shiites are not Arabs?? You are going to tell me that Iraq/Iran war didn't take place?? You are going to tell me that Syria doesn't control Lebanon?? Did Iraq not invade Kuwait?? I can go on and on and I brought up the Arab league of nations which is further proof that Arabs can't get alone with one another. I guess that CIVIL WAR in Iraq that is soon going to take is between Aliens and Chinese.

Aimster already has his mind made up, no point in changing his false views. BTW, most people killed in Iraq at the hands of terrorists are fellow Arabs. Shows you the love, eh.

Middle eastern countries and countries all over the world make allies which serve their best interests. Iraq couldnt care less if Kuwait was an Arab country or not, its interest was to take its great oil reserves. It serves the Saudi's, Iranians interests to keep the US bogged down in Iraq so it wouldnt focus its attention on them.

The Axis of Evil should have had 4 members - Iran, Iraq, N Korea and SAUDI ARABIA

Saddam invaded Kuwait and every Arab nation along with every other nation in the world was against such an attack. No Arab in their right mind was happy with the invasion of Iraq. Not even the Iraqi people. They were asking "what are we doing here"

My false views? You still cannot prove me wrong. You bring up information both of you that do nothing to make your claims look good. Whatever you bring up shows how all other Arabs join together for a cause. Iran/Iraq war = Arabs joining Saddam
Iraq/Kuwait war = World (including Arabs) against Saddam

I don't care about no Axis of Evil. Saudi Arabia is a threat to the entire world and they will be the cause of the next world war. While the rest of the world is in check, Saudi Arabia continues to seek change for the worse.
 

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The problem is that all your posts are factual. You keep talking about all the other resources Iraq has besides oil and you haven't named one. You make up stats and say that "Oil is only 20% of the GDP" in middle eastern nations.
 

raildogg

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
What about lebanon????????? Syria??? a great number of shia Arabs live there. get you own facts straight

Oh heaven forbid I forgot a country like Lebanon. "You forgot Poland". You must get a kick out of this one.

um ....
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
The problem is that all your posts are factual. You keep talking about all the other resources Iraq has besides oil and you haven't named one. You make up stats and say that "Oil is only 20% of the GDP" in middle eastern nations.

What country would you like to know about?
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Saddam invaded Kuwait and every Arab nation along with every other nation in the world was against such an attack. No Arab in their right mind was happy with the invasion of Iraq. Not even the Iraqi people. They were asking "what are we doing here"

My false views? You still cannot prove me wrong. You bring up information both of you that do nothing to make your claims look good. Whatever you bring up shows how all other Arabs join together for a cause. Iran/Iraq war = Arabs joining Saddam
Iraq/Kuwait war = World (including Arabs) against Saddam

I don't care about no Axis of Evil. Saudi Arabia is a threat to the entire world and they will be the cause of the next world war. While the rest of the world is in check, Saudi Arabia continues to seek change for the worse.

so do the evil tyrants that run Iran, whats your point?

 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
The problem is that all your posts are factual. You keep talking about all the other resources Iraq has besides oil and you haven't named one. You make up stats and say that "Oil is only 20% of the GDP" in middle eastern nations.

What country would you like to know about?


From you? None.