Is it payback time for Apple?

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Kaido

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What's funny is I hate apple PC's...have posts to prove it like when I got the wife a imac or macbookpro and bitched about twice as much for 1/4 function, or LOLing @ their proprietary 3x as much mp3 players, anyway nothing touches thier phone. Everyone knows this.

How bout their phone's reception? :awe:
 

Zebo

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How bout their phone's reception? :awe:

Hysterical geek tards making issue of nothing you mean? No issues. Basically I enumerated my problems with phone and reception is not one of them.
 

Aikouka

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2

Hold back ye ravenous iDogs, I own an iPhone, so you cannot get mad at me! :p It's obvious that there's an issue where it suffers in a higher degree than other phones (all phones will suffer from attenuation). The problem being brought up here is how badly they do. The bar levels certainly didn't help as people could drop from 4 bars to 1 bar (using that -24db value from the table and the diagram up a bit higher), which seems like a huge drop.

I also agree with Waggy... it's the arrogance that is such an affront. I went to the Apple store the other day to poke at the iPhone 4 to see if I wanted to upgrade. I just didn't see the point. I set the iPhone 4 beside my 3GS and compared the screens... I barely noticed a difference! The only thing I'd care about after that is the battery life, which I can't really test in the store, but I'll go off Anand's word :p.

I think I'll just wait to see what comes down the line.
 

TridenT

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2

Hold back ye ravenous iDogs, I own an iPhone, so you cannot get mad at me! :p It's obvious that there's an issue where it suffers in a higher degree than other phones (all phones will suffer from attenuation). The problem being brought up here is how badly they do. The bar levels certainly didn't help as people could drop from 4 bars to 1 bar (using that -24db value from the table and the diagram up a bit higher), which seems like a huge drop.

I also agree with Waggy... it's the arrogance that is such an affront. I went to the Apple store the other day to poke at the iPhone 4 to see if I wanted to upgrade. I just didn't see the point. I set the iPhone 4 beside my 3GS and compared the screens... I barely noticed a difference! The only thing I'd care about after that is the battery life, which I can't really test in the store, but I'll go off Anand's word :p.

I think I'll just wait to see what comes down the line.

You've got to be a bit blind/old if you can't tell the difference from the screens. There is literally 4 times the pixels shoved in the same space! 4 times! That's like going from 1 pixel to 4 pixels! (Whoops, edit. I made a bad comparison. I was doing 16 times, haha)
From this:
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To this:
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Aikouka

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I know the difference, but the point is I saw very little difference when I had both phones on the table in the store. One thing that may've caused less of a difference is the fact that I have my 3GS's screen dimmed to preserve battery life.

Also, somewhat off topic, Apple needs to fix this abomination that they call multi-tasking. I'm really tired of using the web in Safari, and when I switch to a different page, it's forced to reload the page, because it ran out of memory! I have to go into the "task manager" and close out all of these applications that I honestly don't want to have sitting in memory. I'd much rather have a white list approach if they're going to let anything reside in memory.
 

Narmer

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iPhone may be great but I do not want to be associated with the idiots that worship it. I once knew this bitch that had an Apple tattoo on her leg. My girlfriend has an iphone. Compared to my 2005 PPC 6700, it's like alien technology. But my phone has been dropped from 30 feet and landed on hard concrete (with merely a dent), survived a whole day in the snow, doesn't drop calls, and never loses text messages. Everytime I want to upgrade, I can't think of any reason. Her phone is so damn unreliable and because it's two years old, the battery now lasts less than a day of light usage. She cannot replace the battery. It seems like a lot of these smartphone manufacturers see the basic functions as an afterthought.

I played with an iphone 4 in the west village two weeks ago. Nice phone but it's more of a toy than a workhorse.
 

Kaido

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Hysterical geek tards making issue of nothing you mean? No issues. Basically I enumerated my problems with phone and reception is not one of them.

No, I mean in general - I've had poor reception with every single one of my iPhones, from the first model on. But yes, also with the iPhone 4 - here's a video of my friend's reception issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWG3yekuVY

If he holds it that way, his call gets dropped after the bars drop. I'm not saying it happens to every iPhone 4 out there, but it happens to his and it's a real problem. Too bad I bought his 3GS and he can't have it back :awe:
 

Kaido

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I know the difference, but the point is I saw very little difference when I had both phones on the table in the store. One thing that may've caused less of a difference is the fact that I have my 3GS's screen dimmed to preserve battery life.

Also, somewhat off topic, Apple needs to fix this abomination that they call multi-tasking. I'm really tired of using the web in Safari, and when I switch to a different page, it's forced to reload the page, because it ran out of memory! I have to go into the "task manager" and close out all of these applications that I honestly don't want to have sitting in memory. I'd much rather have a white list approach if they're going to let anything reside in memory.

Firefox for iPhone is now available:

https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/home/
 

Kaido

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iPhone may be great but I do not want to be associated with the idiots that worship it. I once knew this bitch that had an Apple tattoo on her leg. My girlfriend has an iphone. Compared to my 2005 PPC 6700, it's like alien technology. But my phone has been dropped from 30 feet and landed on hard concrete (with merely a dent), survived a whole day in the snow, doesn't drop calls, and never loses text messages. Everytime I want to upgrade, I can't think of any reason. Her phone is so damn unreliable and because it's two years old, the battery now lasts less than a day of light usage. She cannot replace the battery. It seems like a lot of these smartphone manufacturers see the basic functions as an afterthought.

I played with an iphone 4 in the west village two weeks ago. Nice phone but it's more of a toy than a workhorse.

I was working on a tile floor in a bathroom and my iPhone 3G slipped out of my pocket a few inches, right on the corner of the device. Entire screen shattered like a spiderweb. I use a case now :(

I currently only use my iPhone 3GS for data (with an iPad chip - and for VOIP calls using Skype). I have a $19 Verizon slider cell phone that has taken more abuse than Mike Tyson and it still functions perfectly. It's been stepped on, dropped onto concrete and asphalt, sat on, spilled on, and it just keeps on trucking. And it's a $19 phone that drops a call maybe once a month. I think that despite the iPhone's slick design, it was definitely meant to be used in a protective case. It's too shiny and fragile to use bare (at least for my butterfingers!).
 
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Patranus

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No, I mean in general - I've had poor reception with every single one of my iPhones, from the first model on. But yes, also with the iPhone 4 - here's a video of my friend's reception issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWG3yekuVY

If he holds it that way, his call gets dropped after the bars drop. I'm not saying it happens to every iPhone 4 out there, but it happens to his and it's a real problem. Too bad I bought his 3GS and he can't have it back :awe:

If he doesn't like the functionality of his pone he is more than welcome to take the phone back for a full refund.

Not really sure what the issue is here.

If I am not happy with a something *shocker* I can take it back.
 

theeedude

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Apple is whining about the media? They get tonnes of free advertising from news coverage, but they can't handle dissent. Well, too bad, so sad. When you attract the world's attention, don't fvck up.
 

Aikouka

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Firefox for iPhone is now available:

https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/home/

I'm not certain that will fix the problem... Safari stores the other pages (tabs) in memory, but when they're not in focus, they're available for disposal. Since so much junk resists in memory (I play games like PvZ on my phone), it just can't hold any webpages. It gets worse when you are using non-mobile pages that use a decent amount of memory. I don't know what Firefox will do in this case.

I'd love to see a white list for the multi-tasking so I could just enable what I want (stuff like Safari).
 

Zebo

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No, I mean in general - I've had poor reception with every single one of my iPhones, from the first model on. But yes, also with the iPhone 4 - here's a video of my friend's reception issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWG3yekuVY

If he holds it that way, his call gets dropped after the bars drop. I'm not saying it happens to every iPhone 4 out there, but it happens to his and it's a real problem. Too bad I bought his 3GS and he can't have it back :awe:

I only had iphone 4. (coming off a TP2) And unlike most trolls ragging on it I actually went in sprint store and checked out evo, went in Verizon store and checked out Droid, Went in Tmob and checked out Garmin phone and 3G slide and those cheap plastic phones did not compare to iPhone.

I never experienced reception issues because I bought a $3.50 silicon wrapper because I knew beforehand back is not made of gorilla glass like front, whole phone is made of glass and glass breaks when dropped on concrete and I am clumsy.

Not saying it's not a issue but it's way over blown considering the pros of the phone. Huge for me is battery life since I talk about 4 hours a day. All phones have issue just iPhone less.
 
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hiromizu

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I've had nothing but extraordinary experience with my Apple iPhone 3GS and I'm sure the 4G is even better. I have absolute blind faith in Apple, its products and their loyal fans and therefore you should too. There's no merit in questioning something superior.
 

Zebo

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It may be a phone for idiots that completely believe in the philosophy for form over function. Apple focuses on that philosophy.

LOL 300,000 apps is called function. Major function. 3x as much function as Linux like android phones, more if you consider how fractionalized they are with different OSs and front ends. It does everything I need it to... granted I'm no power user I just call, read email, check visual VM, and occasionally browse web...like checking something like prices when I'm at Bass Pro and want to compare ammo prices or something.
 
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I'd like to see the CEOs of RIM, HTC, and Samsung go on stage and defend their phones. Unfortunately, no one cares.
 

TridenT

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we get it, you're an apple fanboy. apple can do no wrong in your eyes

You're a hater.

They make a damn good phone and damn good environment for the phone.

Google/Android has nothing on that as of this moment.