You apparently live on some planet where nVidia nV40 cards are not released. Head over to nVNews and read the posts of the guys who bought 6800Ultras.
Yes there are more X800Pros out, but Best Buy doesn't have them in stock in their stores or on their website.
Whachoo talkin bout Curley?!
Yes more places have it than have 6800Us, and more are in people's hands. That doesn't mean 6800Us aren't released because people have bought them.
The Voodoo 5 6K was never sold to anyone, so your analogy doesn't work.
Nvidia's launch of the 6800U was pathetic. This is undeniable even for a troll such as yourself.
Some of us don't mind waiting a few more weeks for a chip that is actually a new chip Whatdidyousaytroll.
I've already purchased the R300 core twice and don't plan to again. I'd rather keep my 5800U than give them another $400 for the same chip. (that would make $1200 for the same chip!)
Nope, ATI will have to design something new and better before I pay them again.
I've already purchased the R300 core twice and don't plan to again. I'd rather keep my 5800U than give them another $400 for the same chip. (that would make $1200 for the same chip!)
Nope, ATI will have to design something new and better before I pay them again.
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ATI's launch of the X800XT was pathetic. This is undeniable Nvidia's launch of the 6800U was pathetic. This is undeniable also !!!
It would be great if we could buy these but we cant so get over it .. this thread is about ardOCP being dodgy not about Nvidia VS ATI ... launch dates
The fact still stands that ardOCP is the worst videocard review site on the net and this is yet to be proven otherwise!
It would be great if we could buy these but we cant so get over it .. this thread is about ardOCP being dodgy not about Nvidia VS ATI ... launch dates
The fact still stands that ardOCP is the worst videocard review site on the net and this is yet to be proven otherwise!
Actually ATI's launch was fine. It was Nvidia who paper launched the cards 3 months in advance.
You have said this so many times and have yet to show exactly which store I can buy (not preorder) them from.
Oh hey bro that's cool, let me just get the equivalent to the X800 in nvidia's form of the 6800GT then, oh wait, that's not out yet!!
You still totally ignored the fact that it was a failed, pathetic launch. I don't care how long you like waiting, the launch was a failure and there is no denying it.
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if its out or not its still a better card ! lol all 20 reviews online say so ... bar 1 ... ( ATI fanboy site ardOCP !!! )
Thats what it comes down to ..... your a noob who thinks 1 place ( HardOCP ) is right over the 20 other sites that say the Nvidia card is better.... !!! get a clue.
Thats what it comes down to ..... your a noob who thinks 1 place ( HardOCP ) is right over the 20 other sites that say the Nvidia card is better.... !!! get a clue.
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Compddd
I don't like how loud the 6800U is either, I wish I could put a VGA Silencer 2.0 on it but it doesn't support itSo it looks like X800XT with VGA Silencer 2.0 for me.
How loud is your 6800U?
Actually just on this has anyone seen a review where they test the noise level? i would really like to read one rather than just ppl making silly fanboi claims... thats not directed at u compddd or anyone else in particular... i just think it would be an interesting read..
Most sites claim the X800XT is a better card than the 6800 U. The 6800 GT hasn't even been reviewed in that many places.
The only ATI card anywhere near readily available is the X800 Pro, and that is still out in only very limited quantities. The XT is still pretty much vaporware at this point (about as many people have those as 6800 Ultras). The fact is, you are putting on the blinders if you think ATI's launch was in any way significantly different than NV's. Both companies did what ammounted to no more than a paper launch.
What ATI did is different as the Pro was available very shortly after the cards' debut. Even now it's available in many places. Search pricewatch, many stores have the Pro for 410-420 shipped in stock which is better than you can find in retail stores due to taxes. There's no limited quantities on the pro anymore.
The XT has already shipped from Gateway and Zipzoomfly, I have one.
Admittedly, though, it's not readily available. ATI is well ahead of Nvidia at this point in time. You can also check futuremark's orb, where around a dozen people have XT's up there, and nobody has a 6800 U.Here the XT is shipping in 2-3 days.
Accoring to gameve neither 6800 card is even shipping until the end of this month.
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
What ATI did is different as the Pro was available very shortly after the cards' debut. Even now it's available in many places. Search pricewatch, many stores have the Pro for 410-420 shipped in stock which is better than you can find in retail stores due to taxes. There's no limited quantities on the pro anymore.
The XT has already shipped from Gateway and Zipzoomfly, I have one.
Here the XT is shipping in 2-3 days.
Accoring to gameve neither 6800 card is even shipping until the end of this month.
LOL- I strongly urge anyone who honestly thinks nVidia's vendors not having 100s of 1000s of 6800s in the retail channel is a heinous crime to buy a readily available X800 pro.
The rest of us who actually want a card with some new features and full trilinear can probably wait a few weeks.
This thread is a joke:
"Nyeah Nyeah ATI got more X800s out!"
Who really cares?
Newsflash:ATI probably had a lot less ramp up time producing the same chip they've been making for over two years now with a few more pipelines.
I'd also be really interested to know what you arm chair rocket scientists who are bashing nVidia for their paper launches do for a living.
I'm guessing it's not quite as meaningful as what nVidia is doing:
"D'oh Mr. Rollo I am an A+ box jockey screwing down motherboards! I am well qualified to disrespect the most successful GPU engineering firm on the planet- I passed the A+ cert!"
Uh huh.
Summer vacation is only 10 weeks long Rollo. Waiting a few weeks kinda cuts that in half. I'd rather play Farcry at extra high resolution and settings than sit and bitch again and again about brilinear filtering. Though perhaps you find the latter enjoyable somehow.
And what does Nvidia's paper launch have to do with their engineers?
And what does Nvidia's paper launch have to do with their engineers?
It's tough to be on summer vacation General. Without that new video card, you might actually have to go outside and play!
Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, waiting a few weeks for a card isn't a huge deal for most people. If you're spending $400> on a video card, I'd think you would want a choice, especially given the nature of ATIs "new" card.
The posts over at nVNews say the $300 6800s are shipping next week, I'm personally interested to see where those fall in the hierarchy. For a buyer who has to watch his money, would it be worth $100 more to get 10% more performance (and brilinear, SM2 performance at that) from a X800 Pro? (if it turns out to be that small of a difference)
That is my point, how can you be objective about a hardware review when you have to add stuff like, "The Nvidia card is only a reference model and may or may not require two molex connectors, and we may or may not have an Ultra Extreme, and these are not the final drivers for this card etc..."
As ATI Fanboy Kyle said, until he can have a true release of the card, his benchmarks are just that, benchmarks.
Since I am not A+cert, motherboard slaming, box builder, it is time for me to make the donuts.
LOL, my point was that very few people in the world have achieved the sort of success nVidia Corp has, so very few are qualified to comment on their execution.
It's like the fat slobs you see in bars across the country saying some professional athlete "sucks"- he's a pro athlete in a group of very few in terms of excellence, and these slobs can barely waddle to the can, yet on and on they drone about the athlete's sucking.
What, and risk certain injury from that massive glowing ball of radiation?
I think I'll just take the radiation from my monitor, thank you very much!
Go, outside.... sheesh....
-D'oh!
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wE ARE ALL talking about the HardOCP saying the X800 Pro is better thats what the thread is based off.
I think the X800XT is faster only due to its 525MHz core VS Nvidia's 400Mhz // if both cards had been clocked at 400MHz i dont think the X800XT would of had a chance in hell taking on the Geforce6800
I think I'd take a 6800U over a X800Pro to the extent that if someone said "Rollo, you can have a X800Pro for free, or a 6800U for $200" I'd pay the $200.
The X800 Pro just doesn't do it for me, although I admit the X800XT PE looks to be a fast card until SM3 arrives.
The X800 Pro just doesn't do it for me, although I admit the X800XT PE looks to be a fast card until SM3 arrives.
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yep rollo the X800XT is a very nice card ... ... pitter about the features set i think the R500 and NV50 are going to be something cool... do u think they will be DX10 ?
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