No, I can use system rigs properly because if you actually check the link out you will see my rig in there. I keep my rig in the sig because I know it pisses them/you off.
I bet that could be debated.. I would rather just stick with "whites are bad people in general" despite being white as well...
Sadly, with out sounding like an cinical a-hole, the europeans taking over the america's if you take a step back and look at the whole picture is just simply "evolution" taking it's course. It's essentially one nation taking over another like rome taking over other european nations and I didn't hear anyone complain about rome taking over others.. Nations have taken over other nations tons of time and some times killed off the natives but I haven't heard anyone complain about that. I think the only reason I hear about people complaining about taking over the native american nations is because there are native americans here to complain about it.
While it is sad that we did this, the europeans had no empathy for the natives like we do now because it was simply like the french taking over other nations, or england taking over other nations, invading etc..
While it is sad that we did this, the europeans had no empathy for the natives like we do now because it was simply like the french taking over other nations, or england taking over other nations, invading etc..
THATS EXACTALLY WHAT I'M THINKING OF! Yes, I'm perfectly fine with them putting casinos on tribal land but THEY DON'T. People are spewing crap about how casino's aren't THAT BAD and "Casinos causing crime are inconclusive". Well then, if it hasn't been proven that casino's cause crime then WHY IS IT that EVERY state has gambling to a degree banned except Nevada (Ship based casino's don't count like atlantic city).
On the living room and house, of course. The cherokee removal, for example, basically consisted of the ndns being moved out at gunpoint, and the euros moving right into the already finished houses with planted fields.
Right. You would ask me, or my daughter. If I was lucky, you'd let her live afterwards.
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Using your example wasn't the Holocaust simply evolution? :roll:
Sorry, but the evolution defense is retarded.
All I'm saying is it is their land, what little they have left... 3.5 million sq miles --->Hole in the wall, they can do whatever they want with it.
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If you can't think of a better response than that, who shall we blame? Your parents, or public education?
No one is forced to live anywhere. If reservation life is so squalid, and the standard of living rises when one leaves the reservation, my statement holds true.
And the reason is quite simple. Reservations and the people who lived on them tried to become little countries of their own, rather than productive citizens in the US. They shunned US culture and separated themselves, and were largely failures economically.
Meanwhile minorities who did everything they could to integrate are vastly more successful.
Now, I can fsck myself all day long, but that wont change a thing... nor will you whining and telling people to go fsck themselves.
Nope. It's the only real response you deserve. And yet I'm stubborn enough to keep talking to a racist asshole.
Erm. We were countries of our own. We didn't try to become anything.
The economic problems had, have, everything to do with resources being stolen, not a desire to actually keep the connection to land and nation.
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It currently has nothing to do with stolen resources and everything to do with feeling sorry for oneself and perpetuating poverty through self imposed segregation.
Focusing on the past and whining about things that happened to your great, great, great grandpappys, then refusing to integrate into society is the single most destructive thing you can do for yourself.
There are three minority groups in the US that, by and large, do this. Is it any surprise that these three are the least successful? Not at all.
You and I, we think alike on this issue.
BTW, I have yet to see an intelligent response to this idea. I'm sure somebody can come up with a more-reasonable response than, "You offend me. Go away."
EDIT: Other thoughts.
I had to take an ethnicity course a few years ago, so I chose Chicana Studies (my friends were taking it, too). The ENTIRE class was one big, "this is how we've been screwed over" without ANY ideas about how to fix it. You can't say that's productive, because it just isn't. Wallowing in your self-pity and calling it "empowerment" is simply one of the saddest things I've ever seen.
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It's more human nature than evolution.
I have Native blood running through my veins but I understand that what happened has happened to more than just my ancestors.
It's human nature.
"Only the strong survive" and what have you.
Does it bother me what has happened? Absolutely. I think it bothers everyone with a heart. Was it wrong. Of course.
But it was part of the process to get to where we're trying to go.
I am in no way trying to make light of the situation. There is actually no way to justify this history obviously. It's just that I understand how humans work sometimes. Especially Europeans because I myself and white.
But what does offend me is when people think that they can just make up for the slaughter of natives by giving them casino's.
Like Chris Rock said. You think black people had it bad? Yea right, when's the last time you've seen two Indians walking down the street together?
Casinos make a great place to work. I loved Vegas for that reason.
We took the entire US from them basically, so let em be. And our high-carb diet gives thier fish/buffalo eating genetics diabetes very easily. Haven't they suffered enough without people bitchin about one of the few resources they have?
I like reservation liquor stores and fireworks stands.
We took the entire US from them basically, so let em be. And our high-carb diet gives thier fish/buffalo eating genetics diabetes very easily. Haven't they suffered enough without people bitchin about one of the few resources they have?
I like reservation liquor stores and fireworks stands.
You and I, we think alike on this issue.
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No crap?
You're a racist asshole, too?
I'm not telling you to shut up because you offend me. I'm telling you (and him) to fvck off to offend you. When you've got trash you can ignore it or ridicule it. I'm idiotic enough to waste time ridiculing and dragging myself down to its level.
Wow, you should really take a minute to examine your motivations. First of all, I don't know if you actually read this thread, but I'm 1/8 Cherokee. What happened to my ancestors was horrible, but to blame the ancestors of thier victimizers seems ridiculous to me. Second, the idea put forth (that isolation from the rest of society perpetuates racial inequality) honestly seems like a valid idea. If it isn't, please TELL ME WHY.
Telling those you disagree with to "f--- off" won't get you very far in the real world. And I bet if I met you in the real world, we could have an intelligent and coherent discussion about the topic. We could still have one here, but it seems that you'd rather try to offend me. Honestly, it seems like you're hiding behind the anonymity provided by the internet, which is simply cowardice.
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*sigh* I feel like I should explain what I mean by saying that "hiding behind the anonymity of the internet is cowardice." I'm not talking about knowing your name or where you live. I'm talking about the fact that, on the internet, it doesn't feel like you're interacting with a real person (or real people).
Because of this, many people feel like they can act (on the internet) in ways that would be completely inappropriate in real life. In fact, in real life, they might even be afraid and/or embarrassed to tell random people to "f--- off" out of some over-developed sense of a thing we call "decency."
Here's where the cowardice comes in: in real life, you wouldn't just tell me too screw off and then ignore me (at least not for simply proposing an idea other than you're own). However, because this is the internet, you can hide behind it. You don't have to provide reasoning for your position. You don't even have to treat me like a person. You can take the easy way out and simply ignore me, which is what you seem to have done.
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