Is it illegal to systematically destroy someone through legal means?

Flyback

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Say you or someone you love has been terribly wronged.

Instead of acting outward in violence (at the possibility of being caught) and lacking in downright evilness factor, can you destroy them through "legal" activities and not get into trouble? I know the individual acts themselves are legal, but the intent or end goal--is that illegal of some sort?

I'd argue its better to destroy someone over time and let them watch their life fall apart rather than to take it out in a few moments. Say you're screwed over/controlled by some slimeballs. You grow in power and resources. You become filthy rich and have means of influence.

-Buy up all the property around their house and destroy it/do something horrible to devalue the neighbourhood so their net worth drops.

-Ruin their local reputation somehow but avoid slander and libel laws.

-Buy up the business they work for and purposely sink it so they are out of a job. You do this repeatedly going from place to place wherever they work and do it to each company (remember, you're a billionaire).

-Make an affair happen with his wife (making it seem accidental but planning to meet her, persuade her, etc over time through carefully calculated means).

-Force them into a position of having to give up things in their life which they love. You buy their childhood home and bulldoze it.

-Being a multibillionaire, you exercise any influence you can on the stocks that they hold to somehow cause them to drop overnight.

-You even orchestrate some big scheme where his children are brought into it. You destroy them in the same way in front of his eyes to further bring him down even more (watching his loved ones fall).

The list could go on and on. You get the point.

If your purpose/intent is to destroy someone like this, would it be illegal somehow ? Are normally legal activities (buying a company) "illegal" if the purpose is malice? (to sink it and put someone out of a job)

I watched the movie Ripleys Game and it made me wonder.
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: KLin
That's one helluva grudge your holding.

See the post. I watched Ripleys Game and started thinking about various ways you could get revenge. I wouldn't do it. To steal (and horribly butcher) a quote: the best revenge is to be unlike those you seek it against (was it Julius who said that?)
 

Beev

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I don't think it would be illegal, but that would definitely ruin the person doing its life too. They really wouldn't even have a life. It would be spent purely terrorizing this other person.
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: Sraaz
I don't think it would be illegal, but that would definitely ruin the person doing its life too. They really wouldn't even have a life. It would be spent purely terrorizing this other person.

You're rich. You hire a committee to do it for you for optimal evilness (need a panel of experts to maximize it) :eek::D;)
 

2Xtreme21

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Seems fine to me. This could be fun:

- I like the idea of buying all the property around their houses and devaluing them. Maybe you could take it one step further and make subtle offers to the city you live in's two biggest gangs and have them each located on opposite sides around this person's house.

- Buy the square of land surrounding their property and have security guards watch every part of it and "apprehend those who trespass on your property."

- Drop hints to the police about a suspected meth lab in the basement of their house.

- Sign up their address / telephone for every fun spammy email offer you receive. :)

- Monopolize the utility industries and charge their house quadruple what everyone else pays.

- Buy the industry they work for and ship their job overseas.

- Throw large city-sponsored parades and block parties (since you bought your way to the top of city council) around their house every day / night.

I'll have to think of more...
 

Gunslinger08

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Ruining someone's life is not illegal. You aren't guaranteed happiness -- just the pursuit of it.
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Say you or someone you love has been terribly wronged.

Instead of acting outward in violence (at the possibility of being caught) and lacking in downright evilness factor, can you destroy them through "legal" activities and not get into trouble? I know the individual acts themselves are legal, but the intent or end goal--is that illegal of some sort?

I'd argue its better to destroy someone over time and let them watch their life fall apart rather than to take it out in a few moments. Say you're screwed over/controlled by some slimeballs. You grow in power and resources. You become filthy rich and have means of influence.

-Buy up all the property around their house and destroy it/do something horrible to devalue the neighbourhood so their net worth drops.

-Ruin their local reputation somehow but avoid slander and libel laws.

-Buy up the business they work for and purposely sink it so they are out of a job. You do this repeatedly going from place to place wherever they work and do it to each company (remember, you're a billionaire).

-Make an affair happen with his wife (making it seem accidental but planning to meet her, persuade her, etc over time through carefully calculated means).

-Force them into a position of having to give up things in their life which they love. You buy their childhood home and bulldoze it.

-Being a multibillionaire, you exercise any influence you can on the stocks that they hold to somehow cause them to drop overnight.

-You even orchestrate some big scheme where his children are brought into it. You destroy them in the same way in front of his eyes to further bring him down even more (watching his loved ones fall).

The list could go on and on. You get the point.

If your purpose/intent is to destroy someone like this, would it be illegal somehow ? Are normally legal activities (buying a company) "illegal" if the purpose is malice? (to sink it and put someone out of a job)

I watched the movie Ripleys Game and it made me wonder.

Until you get owned your self when the guy decides that he wants to work for the government and ends up renting out some apartment somewhere..
 

Eli

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I don't think it is, although they could sue you for slander and libel if they felt like it.. it would be up to a jury to decide whether they broke any laws.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: goku
Until you get owned your self when the guy decides that he wants to work for the government and ends up renting out some apartment somewhere..

Even then, that's still a pretty lame way to spend the rest of your life.
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: goku
Until you get owned your self when the guy decides that he wants to work for the government and ends up renting out some apartment somewhere..

Even then, that's still a pretty lame way to spend the rest of your life.

Buy the apartment building and have it demolished 2-3 months after he moves in (just when he is getting to like it) !
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: Eli
I don't think it is, although they could sue you for slander and libel if they felt like it.. it would be up to a jury to decide whether they broke any laws.

Even if you don't verbally talk sh*t or have it published? When I said give them a bad rep, do it through subtle means without ever having to say words (implication, or otherwise).
 

T9D

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There would be to many things happening to be coinsidence. They would be able to sue no doubt. Then they would get it all back and a lot extra. The person would have to do things as secret and in the shadows as possible.
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: tk109
There would be to many things happening to be coinsidence. They would be able to sue no doubt. Then they would get it all back and a lot extra. The person would have to do things as secret and in the shadows as possible.

What would they "sue" for, though? I mean, don't you generally need some sort of law to be broken for them to have a claim in the court? (I don't know anything about the legal process)
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: goku
Until you get owned your self when the guy decides that he wants to work for the government and ends up renting out some apartment somewhere..

Even then, that's still a pretty lame way to spend the rest of your life.

Buy the apartment building and have it demolished 2-3 months after he moves in (just when he is getting to like it) !

Live in government housing, also, if you move into the right apartment, you won't be able to buy it because of the stubborn super who has 12 cats that roam around her apartment and they wouldn't be able to handle a change. Money means nothing to these types of people, I know because my dad had to deal with one of these types in australia.
 

AUMM

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reminds me of the movie Changing Lanes with Samuel Jackson and Ben Affleck
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: GuideBot
Originally posted by: KLin
That's one helluva grudge your holding.

It pays off though. It really does.

yep. revenge is a dish best served with a pocketknife. This reminds me, my bi annual stalk n' sabotage jaunt for my old boss is fast approaching. Time to let the air out of some tires, hang some truck nutz and put some tuna fish juice in the car vents. The one bad thing about revenge is not being able to let the victim know that you're the reason they suffer.

*the above paragraph is fictional and for entertainment purposes only.
 

kranky

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That's allowing another person to control your life. Who has time for that?
 

AAjax

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Originally posted by: GuideBot
Originally posted by: KLin
That's one helluva grudge your holding.

It pays off though. It really does.

You must learn to forgive others so you can forgive yourself. This path leads to neither padawan
 

DefDC

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Until you get owned your self when the guy decides that he wants to work for the government and ends up renting out some apartment somewhere..[/quote]



Heh... I thought I was on the receiving end of this in many apts. You only need to rent the apts on both sides, above and below. And then select any kind of crazy noisemakers...

Hell, just pushing the speakers against the wall and turning on any pop station would be enough torture for me! :)