Is it illegal to systematically destroy someone through legal means?

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smack Down

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: goku
Until you get owned your self when the guy decides that he wants to work for the government and ends up renting out some apartment somewhere..

Even then, that's still a pretty lame way to spend the rest of your life.

Buy the apartment building and have it demolished 2-3 months after he moves in (just when he is getting to like it) !

Then he finds a new apartment building and gets a deal with the manager to get a 10% kickback when you buy the place
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: smack Down

Then he finds a new apartment building and gets a deal with the manager to get a 10% kickback when you buy the place

Having someone go from the lap of luxury living in a very expensive home (say they were a prominent person) to living in some apartment isn't exactly living the "good life". I'm sure the other methods of destroying them would finally get to them (removing their employment).
 

dug777

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You'd very quickly find yourself on the wrong end of a harassment suit.

So yeah.
 

lastig21

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I hope you would be spending as much time thinking of ways to negate the effects on innocent people affected by the evil game (enemy's neighbors, enemy's co-workers, other investors). You would be wronging alot of people in probably the same (or worse) ways that you were wronged in the first place. Some of these individuals might decide to take their revenge on you in less subtle ways . . dark shadows, weapon of choice, etc.
 

Pacemaker

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Originally posted by: lizardboy
They could maybe get you for Intentional Inflection of Emotional distress, depending on the state. That's the only thing that came to mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_infliction_of_emotional_distress

Extreme and outrageous conduct
The conduct must be heinous and beyond the standards of civilized decency or utterly intolerable in a civilized society. Whether the conduct is illegal does not determine whether it meets this standard. IIED is also known as the tort of "outrage," due to a classic formulation of the standard: the conduct must be such that it would cause a reasonable person to exclaim "Outrageous!" in response.

An example of an act which might form the basis for a claim of intentional infliction of emotional distress would be sending a letter to an individual falsely informing the person that a close family member had been killed in an accident.

Sounds like you are probably right.

Edit: for an internet forum you could probably replace "outrageous" with "WTF" In the quote.
 

Eeezee

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The key word is legal. Those are all legal activities, and I'd like to see you get charged with something through any of those activities. The guy can claim that you have a grudge and are targetting him, but it's easy to name those events as all coincidental. You're innocent until proven guilty, so proving that you have it out for some guy is going to be pretty tough. Besides, what would you be charged with? Does a conspiracy charge even work if the activity is legal but malicious?
 

Atheus

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I reckon the guy would just give up and have you killed or mutilated after a while. You might spend millions on degrading this guy, but you can get a kneecapping done for under £100.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: daveymark
yep. revenge is a dish best served with a pocketknife. This reminds me, my bi annual stalk n' sabotage jaunt for my old boss is fast approaching. Time to let the air out of some tires, hang some truck nutz and put some tuna fish juice in the car vents. The one bad thing about revenge is not being able to let the victim know that you're the reason they suffer.

*the above paragraph is fictional and for entertainment purposes only.

There was a conspiracy once at my school - turn a teacher's car upside down...

Never got it done, but man, I'd like to do it some day. Just imagine the look on their face :)
 

Juice Box

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DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
The key word is legal. Those are all legal activities, and I'd like to see you get charged with something through any of those activities. The guy can claim that you have a grudge and are targetting him, but it's easy to name those events as all coincidental. You're innocent until proven guilty, so proving that you have it out for some guy is going to be pretty tough. Besides, what would you be charged with? Does a conspiracy charge even work if the activity is legal but malicious?

You're forgetting, this would would probably be a civil case; burden of proof is quite different.
 

LikeLinus

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"You even orchestrate some big scheme where his children are brought into it. You destroy them in the same way in front of his eyes to further bring him down even more (watching his loved ones fall). "

Ok, I can understand messing with this person. But, fvcking with innocent children?? That right there makes you deserve to burn in hell.
 

BustaBust

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I believe the media does this... legally and as a business.

Also, if you typed this: "can you destroy them through "legal" activities and not get into trouble? I know the individual acts themselves are legal, but the intent or end goal--is that illegal of some sort?", then you already should've known the answer.
 

LordNoob

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Scott Tenorman Must Die

Checklist: 1) Have person's parents killed by accident, 2) trick said person into eating his or her parents at a chili cookoff which you have orchestrated so as to fool that person into thinking they have the upper hand. 3) get radiohead, said person's favorite band, to witness said person crying. 4) get radiohead to call said person a cry baby and laugh at him or her.

Edit: And don't forget to lick the tears off the face of your defeated enemy. They are, oh, oh so sweet (See the episode)
 

scootermaster

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Say you or someone you love has been terribly wronged.

Instead of acting outward in violence (at the possibility of being caught) and lacking in downright evilness factor, can you destroy them through "legal" activities and not get into trouble? I know the individual acts themselves are legal, but the intent or end goal--is that illegal of some sort?

I'd argue its better to destroy someone over time and let them watch their life fall apart rather than to take it out in a few moments. Say you're screwed over/controlled by some slimeballs. You grow in power and resources. You become filthy rich and have means of influence.

-Buy up all the property around their house and destroy it/do something horrible to devalue the neighbourhood so their net worth drops.

-Ruin their local reputation somehow but avoid slander and libel laws.

-Buy up the business they work for and purposely sink it so they are out of a job. You do this repeatedly going from place to place wherever they work and do it to each company (remember, you're a billionaire).

-Make an affair happen with his wife (making it seem accidental but planning to meet her, persuade her, etc over time through carefully calculated means).

-Force them into a position of having to give up things in their life which they love. You buy their childhood home and bulldoze it.

-Being a multibillionaire, you exercise any influence you can on the stocks that they hold to somehow cause them to drop overnight.

-You even orchestrate some big scheme where his children are brought into it. You destroy them in the same way in front of his eyes to further bring him down even more (watching his loved ones fall).

The list could go on and on. You get the point.

If your purpose/intent is to destroy someone like this, would it be illegal somehow ? Are normally legal activities (buying a company) "illegal" if the purpose is malice? (to sink it and put someone out of a job)

I watched the movie Ripleys Game and it made me wonder.

Um, I haven't read the entire thread...or even your entire post, but you might try reading "The Count of Monte Cristo". I've never seen Ripley's Game, but I can promise it's nothing like the anger and vengeance in that.