Is it Asians in general, or just foreign student asians...

[isekii]

Originally posted by: grrl

Originally posted by: isekii
99% true is far from it.
Try again dumbass

So, prove me wrong. You said it's not common. Either is it true more or less than 50% of the time. Which one is it?

I'm smart enough not to put a number on it or make a generalization. There are people all over that hold the doors and people that don't hold doors.
But to say "I can't speak for all Asians, but Koreans don't hold doors for each other or say 'I'm sorry'" is retarded.

there are a lot of arabs and indians in my school that don't hold doors for people than there are that do hold the door.
Do you see me make a generalization that Indians and Arabs don't hold doors for people ?

 

[JoeI]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
why don't they ever wear shorts is what I want to know!!

Because they are so damn short...lol

 

[rgwalt]

I've noticed that foreign students tend to do things at my university that people should know not to do, like cutting in line. For instance, I was present for a football ticket exchange one morning, and a foreign student (asian) came in and plopped himself down at the very front of the line in front of the ticket window. There is a chance that he simply didn't understand the setup, but there is also a chance that he DID understand it and thought he would try to get away with it. I can't say which, and I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt.

Another foreign student was ahead of our group on the golf course, and almost drilled me with a ball he shanked left off the tee box. Problem is that he didn't bother to yell. There is a chance that he simply didn't see me, but he didn't seem too concerned when I yelled at him as he walked to pick up his ball.

Like I said, I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes I wonder.

Another funny thing is that the foreign students tend to walk down the left side of the hall instead of the right. I always walk down the right side, and most Americans I see do the same thing. It isn't a big deal, until the hall is blocked by a set of double fire doors without windows that open when you push on them. I've almost floored about a dozen asian grad students with these double doors over the last few years.

R

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: grrl

Originally posted by: isekii
99% true is far from it.
Try again dumbass

So, prove me wrong. You said it's not common. Either is it true more or less than 50% of the time. Which one is it?

I'm smart enough not to put a number on it or make a generalization. There are people all over that hold the doors and people that don't hold doors.
But to say "I can't speak for all Asians, but Koreans don't hold doors for each other or say 'I'm sorry'" is retarded.

there are a lot of arabs and indians in my school that don't hold doors for people than there are that do hold the door.
Do you see me make a generalization that Indians and Arabs don't hold doors for people ?

So I guess you would have no comment on the topic because you don't want to make any kind of generalization. And by extension, you never make any generalizations? That's truly amazing. And unbelieveable. It's also a deadend. I don't think there are many Koreans who would disagree with my generalization. It's just not expected to say 'I'm sorry' the way it is in the US. Also, most Koreans in my experience don't hold doors for each other. In fact, I've gotten slightly amazed looks for doing it suggesting it's appreciated, but certainly not expected.

 

[JoeI]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
I've noticed that extremely HOT girls never held the door for me :|

yeah dude that's because they are conceited.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: rgwalt
I've noticed that foreign students tend to do things at my university that people should know not to do, like cutting in line. For instance, I was present for a football ticket exchange one morning, and a foreign student (asian) came in and plopped himself down at the very front of the line in front of the ticket window. There is a chance that he simply didn't understand the setup, but there is also a chance that he DID understand it and thought he would try to get away with it. I can't say which, and I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt.

Another foreign student was ahead of our group on the golf course, and almost drilled me with a ball he shanked left off the tee box. Problem is that he didn't bother to yell. There is a chance that he simply didn't see me, but he didn't seem too concerned when I yelled at him as he walked to pick up his ball.

Like I said, I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes I wonder.

Another funny thing is that the foreign students tend to walk down the left side of the hall instead of the right. I always walk down the right side, and most Americans I see do the same thing. It isn't a big deal, until the hall is blocked by a set of double fire doors without windows that open when you push on them. I've almost floored about a dozen asian grad students with these double doors over the last few years.

R

ive had both foreign AND non-foreign students cut in front of me in line. i really really really dont think it has anything to do with being foreign or not. this is all from personal experience. i dont notice any certain 'groups' of people doing it more than other groups.

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by: Vertimus

Originally posted by: grrl
I can't speak for all Asians, but Koreans don't hold doors for each other or say 'I'm sorry'.

I can't speak for all Asians, but Chinese people don't hold doors for each other or say 'I'm sorry

i am chinese and i am offended by your comments. there is only one way to settle this. which CS server?

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
ive had both foreign AND non-foreign students cut in front of me in line. i really really really dont think it has anything to do with being foreign or not. this is all from personal experience. i dont notice any certain 'groups' of people doing it more than other groups.

we have noticed this to be more common with certain groups. before you yell racist/whatever, we are immigrants ourselves. some people definitely carried bad habits with them here.

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother

Originally posted by: rgwalt
I've noticed that foreign students tend to do things at my university that people should know not to do, like cutting in line. For instance, I was present for a football ticket exchange one morning, and a foreign student (asian) came in and plopped himself down at the very front of the line in front of the ticket window. There is a chance that he simply didn't understand the setup, but there is also a chance that he DID understand it and thought he would try to get away with it. I can't say which, and I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt.

Another foreign student was ahead of our group on the golf course, and almost drilled me with a ball he shanked left off the tee box. Problem is that he didn't bother to yell. There is a chance that he simply didn't see me, but he didn't seem too concerned when I yelled at him as he walked to pick up his ball.

Like I said, I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes I wonder.

Another funny thing is that the foreign students tend to walk down the left side of the hall instead of the right. I always walk down the right side, and most Americans I see do the same thing. It isn't a big deal, until the hall is blocked by a set of double fire doors without windows that open when you push on them. I've almost floored about a dozen asian grad students with these double doors over the last few years.

R

ive had both foreign AND non-foreign students cut in front of me in line. i really really really dont think it has anything to do with being foreign or not. this is all from personal experience. i dont notice any certain 'groups' of people doing it more than other groups.

speaking of line cutters, i was at a best buy in brooklyn (i think) and i was standing in the line for the cash registers. i dont know how best buy lines are at other stores, but in this particular store, there are 4 registers and one long ass line. so this line sorta bends and curves all over the place. usually, i don't like to be all up on ppl so i leave some "personal space" between me and the person in front of me. so i am on line for a while, and usually when i am in a long line, i like to be nosy and turn around and see how long the line is behind me. i noticed some dude behind me looking at some cheezy star wars crap that was piled next to the line. then later i turned around again and the dude was closer... then later, even closer. before i knew it, this assbag was right next to me. so i am like whatever... i'll be alright. the line starts to move as the ppl in front round a corner of the line, so i start walking. wiht my "personal space" buffer in front of me, this guy walks in front of me. wtf? he's just looking forward like nothing's going on. i was looking at him, seeing if he would say something, or turn around and let me back in front, but nothing. it seemed like he was trying not to look at me, even though it was so obvious that he cut in front of me. i'm not saying i'm the big hulking dude, but i'm not exactly so small that he would walk by me and not notice. so i decided "fcuk my traditionally passive asian instincts" and asked him "excuse me sir, weren't you in line behind me?" then he puts on his "play dumb" face and shakes his head and says "no, i don't think so". bull fcuking turd. blatant frickin' lie. so again.... pushing aside my usual non-confrontational chinese demeanor, i replied "yes you were, i saw you come on line behind me" and stepped in front of the slimebag. he peeped "whatever". that's right beeyatch.... suck it. i am azn... hear me rawr.

:rawr;

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Like lots of other people have said, it's a culture difference.

Many people here in the South think that people from the North are rude. Northerners generally don't say "sir" and "ma'am" (Which would have gotten you a tanned hide 15 years ago when I was in elementary school), they generally don't take their hats off indoors, and they generally don't stand up when women leave the table.

This is, as is your thing about Asians, just a generalization. I've found that where there's any question about it, it's better to assume that people aren't being rude.

Sir and Maam is strictly a southern thing and always has been. Everywhere else uses Mr/Ms <Last Name>. Standing when a woman leaves the table and taking your hat off indoors is proper social ettiqute in the north or south.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
ive had both foreign AND non-foreign students cut in front of me in line. i really really really dont think it has anything to do with being foreign or not. this is all from personal experience. i dont notice any certain 'groups' of people doing it more than other groups.

Piedmont is a lax school. People cut in line because it's more time efficient that way. Just don't mess with the Freshmexican class, because they'll cut you.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Originally posted by: summit
its those FOBB ASIANS... aka fresh of the banana boat asians those guys are rude and think they are king... however the good asians are the americanized ones that dont say kekeke

Korean Starcraft players say Kekekeke.

Americans say hahahhahaa
Spanish say jajajajajajaja
Koreans say kekekekekeke

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude

Originally posted by: summit
its those FOBB ASIANS... aka fresh of the banana boat asians those guys are rude and think they are king... however the good asians are the americanized ones that dont say kekeke

Korean Starcraft players say Kekekeke.

Americans say hahahhahaa
Spanish say jajajajajajaja
Koreans say kekekekekeke

i always thought those were typos

 

[pennylane]

It's been my experience that many asians aren't rude. But rather, they don't realize that they're being rude. ie, they don't know what's proper. It seems to be more obliviousness and lack of consideration than lack of knowing our culture, but what do I know.

 

[iskim86]

in asia, no one holds the door for anyone, let alone yield on the road. they're all a bunch of bastards and I slit my wrist everyday for being an asian myself.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
It's been my experience that many asians aren't rude. But rather, they don't realize that they're being rude. ie, they don't know what's proper. It seems to be more obliviousness and lack of consideration than lack of knowing our culture, but what do I know.

And many things a typical American does are considered incredibly rude

 

[watek]

not us no way!!

 

[Calin]

Maybe they don't know english?

 

[edmundoab]

haha,
I think its just the developing countries,

even like Malaysia,
don't expect someone to hold the door for you
we were never brought up that way and its hard to instill to grown ups to behave like this,

even I learned it when I came to the US for studies.
so.., yeah, its culture and way of life too..

there are pros and cons for the different cultures.
perhaps u have noticed the most obvious con in this case.
-) chill it bro

 

[TomKazansky]

i came to america for about 6 years....

since the first day, i have held doors for people and said numerous "sorry" and "excuse me" to people.

my point: its the assholes that don't hold the door for you.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: akubi

generalizing that all asians do this due to a "couple" that you've encountered is retarded for obvious reasons. even asking the question is ignorant.

If you're suggesting that asking questions is wrong, I'd like to see how you learn. In addition, questions are usually based on ignorance. There's nothing wrong with that.

ig·no·rant Audio pronunciation of "ignorant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

Hence, if you don't know the answer, you ask a question.

QFT, see sig.

Folks giving the OP sh!t:

At least he's asking questions and is willing to discuss why and learn.

 

[Psyber]

It's definately not race specific, it's happened to me with all races. What bothers me is when I open the door for someone else and they just walk through as if it was my job to open it, no thank you, smile, or nod or anything - That Pevs me

 

[manohartvs]

Originally posted by: iskim86
in asia, no one holds the door for anyone, let alone yield on the road. they're all a bunch of bastards and I slit my wrist everyday for being an asian myself.

I dont regret being asian...but customs are different....and I have seen the worst and best of the 2 countries I have been to....so I have no complaint

 

[MadPeriot]

Originally posted by: jEct2
I'm Asian and I got here when I was 13 which was 10 years ago. I have a healthy perspective on both cultures.

They don't usually hold doors and openly say thank you as much because that is simply the sheer difference of culture. We just don't do it ususally, nothing more and nothing less. If you see that as being 'rude' then you have an ignorance problem. That is same as Asians observing Americans are rude with opening their mouths before careful thinking or picking up a spoon before elders at a dinner table. (It's polite to wait until the oldest start eating first.)

It is simply a culture crash.

If Stefan was an Asian in Asia and saw foreign Americans behaved their ways, you would immediately label them as being rude as well. Only the wise may recognize that it is the difference of culture and no offense was intended by either culture.

/thread

Here are some more asian culture for you all:
If you were invited over for dinner you should least bring something to give thanks for being invited so it doesn't seem like you're free loading.

Asians (mainly chinese) brings gifts over when they go over to a friend's house or relatives house.

You wait till everyone gets their plate before you start eating at the dinner table.

Assist to grab food (with chopsticks) for the elder and put in their plate to show respect

No shoes allowed in the house, its dirty.

Asians don't sleep with socks on, it smells.

Never talk back to elders, even though you know they are wrong, trust me a lot of people do. Just look at our educational systems, esp. in HS kids yells and pull stunts at the teachers.

Most asians fit for the bill after a meal at a restaurant instead of culture here where everyone pays for whatever they ate.

 

[MadPeriot]

Originally posted by: Nick5324
When I'm on campus, I notice that most Asian students are always in a hurry. It is very unusual for me to see them walking, always "speed walking" if not jogging or running. The expression on their face looks like they are late for something. I've never been able to figure out what the hell is going on.

I can safely say you have never been to Asia. You'll definately see a culture shock when you're there. If you are in the big cities (LA does not even come close as a city compare to cities over there, Tokyo, Taipei, Malacaa, HK, etc.) Everyone is way fast paced. Students read books as if they have to finish it in one sitting, as to us in the states we slowly enjoy it over coffee.