Is Homosexuality a fundamental freedom and universal human right

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Texashiker

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My best guess.... to make people like TH feel good about themselves.

I do not need to put people down to feel good. I am pretty happy with my life. My wife and I have no small kids at home and are free to live our life as we wish. We have 2 dozen chicks getting ready to go into the new chick house, and a new chicken house to build.

What I do not understand, how can obama be a champion of liberty, when he signed two different laws - the ndaa and the aca.
 

HAL9000

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In a statement released by the white house, obama slams Uganda for an anti-gay law they going to enact.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ment-president-anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda



Is Homosexuality a fundamental freedom and universal human right and on par with the right to vote, freedom of religion, right to keep and bear arms, right to trial by jury,,,, and other unalienable human rights?

Every human being on the planet has the right to love and be loved. So, that's a human right, regardless of gender, it doesn't really matter what sexual orientation you have, that's ah uman right.

Also... things like freedom of religion and right to keep and bear arms aren't really fundamental human rights as fair as I'm concerned. Not in the same way that freedom from torture or oppression are.
 

jackstar7

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What I do not understand, how can obama be a champion of liberty, when he signed two different laws - the ndaa and the aca.

You've discovered a politician who holds contradictory views?

OH FUCK!

EVERYBODY RUN! IT'S ALL OVER!
 

Texashiker

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And you know sodomy covers mouth stuff, too, right?

Not that I'm implying that your wife would ever do that to you...

HPV has also been linked to oral cancer.

Cervical cancer if caught in time is 100% treatable. The doctor just removes the cervix.
 

Jaskalas

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I'm discovering that this topic is attempting to be a thought experiment.

Why are these human rights, and how do we define them? It could be a question of finding the specific legal definition, and wondering how that compares to a moral obligation.

It's really not as easy to answer as I had first expected.

If someone says they fall under "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" then we must pause and wonder. We do restrict things, we do strip people of certain actions and "rights". So the real question is, why not these, how / why are these rights protected above others?

Are there legal terms to spell out this distinction?
 

Texashiker

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I'm discovering that this topic is attempting to be a thought experiment.

Why are these human rights, and how do we define them? It could be a question of finding the specific legal definition, and wondering how that compares to a moral obligation.

It's really not as easy to answer as I had first expected.

Thank you.
 
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I'm discovering that this topic is attempting to be a thought experiment.

Why are these human rights, and how do we define them? It could be a question of finding the specific legal definition, and wondering how that compares to a moral obligation.

It's really not as easy to answer as I had first expected.

If someone says they fall under "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" then we must pause and wonder. We do restrict things, we do strip people of certain actions and "rights". So the real question is, why not these, how / why are these rights protected above others?

Are there legal terms to spell out this distinction?

Pfft. Take your rational post out of here. This is TH thread about nothing in particular. :colbert:
 

bshole

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HPV has also been linked to oral cancer.

Hello Beavis, HPV doesn't affect MONOGAMOUS couples, it affects people with lots of different sex partners. So are you against the right to have sex with many different sex partners? Is that where you are going with this thread?
 

Moonbeam

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Nobody here is arguing against those points.

My question is should sex be a protected right as obama said?

This is easy to answer. Does the government have the right to tell men they can only marry men and women they can only marry women? If it can than the right to marry the gender of your choice isn't a human right.
 
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my guess is 7 pages before the OP is ignored and his idiotic 'debate' is no longer discussed with anyone outside of the voices in his head.
 

Texashiker

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Pfft. Take your rational post out of here. This is TH thread about nothing in particular. :colbert:

You are not thinking deep enough.

Take the ndaa that obama signed, which allows the government to indefinitely detention US citizens without due process.

Take the acaa which forces US citizens to either buy health insurance or pay a fine.

Justice department kills US citizens without due process.

Can not smoke weed in the privacy of our own home.

Can not make whiskey in our own home.

All of those are justified for various reasons.

But if anyone treads on the rights of gays, then all hell breaks loose.


Hello Beavis, HPV doesn't affect MONOGAMOUS couples, it affects people with lots of different sex partners. So are you against the right to have sex with many different sex partners? Is that where you are going with this thread?

I just stated a fact, hpv is a health risk. States have the authority to pass laws to protect the health, welfare and safety of its citizens.
 
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rudeguy

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Every human being on the planet has the right to love and be loved. So, that's a human right, regardless of gender, it doesn't really matter what sexual orientation you have, that's ah uman right.

Also... things like freedom of religion and right to keep and bear arms aren't really fundamental human rights as fair as I'm concerned. Not in the same way that freedom from torture or oppression are.

Finally! A voice of reason:

Will you please tell Texashiker that my penis is special?