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Is Healthcare a human right?

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Is Healthcare a human right?

  • Yes, but people should pay for it themselves.

  • Yes, and we need a single payer system.

  • No, fuck the poor.

  • No, but everyone should still have good healthcare.

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A human right is an inherent thing that is protected from gov't/statutory interference - NOT something granted by or given by a gov't.

silly libs...
 
sandorski said:
No. Fail on though.

Hint: Your own preamble to the Constitiution lays out Government quite succinctly. It's too bad Neo-Cons/Cons have lost touch with it.
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Hint: the preamble to the Constitution doesn't even come close to suggesting the gov't grants or gives rights. But fail on if you must...
 
sandorski said:
No. Fail on though.

Hint: Your own preamble to the Constitiution lays out Government quite succinctly. It's too bad Neo-Cons/Cons have lost touch with it.
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"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I see nothing about granting liberty, only protecting and insuring it.

Hint: The Founders held that our rights are unalienable. That we are born with them, not given them.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
 
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Amused said:
Ooh! Good dodge!!!

And yet, our government does NOT grant rights as you tried to claim. It merely secures pre-existing/assumed rights.

Hint: You're still failing.
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Dodge? Rly? We the People, the Government, Granted those Rights. If not, Who did?
 
i don't know if it is or should be a human right but it certainly should be a common interest.
who could or would possibly want to benefit from another human beings sickness or illness.

then again, our medical and pharmaceutical industry is strong and growing.
for more and more students entering these fields it is more of an economical decision then about helping people.
big business is interested in profit margins not souls saved. a disease is a cash cow.

doctors and medical staff should get paid for the amount of healthy patients they have instead of the ones that are sick and they can keep sick.
 
xj0hnx said:
No, they are not granted. You are not "granted" the right to live, you don't get to continue living because of the whim of some government, or dictator.
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Life is another thing entirely. It is something that is obvious. Rights are another matter entirely, being a Construct similar to Language or Currency.
 
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