Is fish meat?

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Now I've got a craving for some Atlantic Salmon yum.

LOL, i just got back from the A&P and picked up a good 5lb Salmon steak for like $6.


Funny you mentioned this.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: clicknext
Yes. It's just not counted as meat by some religions' standards.

WRONG! its still meat!

 

[ViperXX]

Beef: the flesh of a cow used as food.
Pork: the flesh of a pig used as food.
Venison: the flesh of a deer used as food.
Fishmeat: the flesh of a fish used as meat.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I am still not sure what the big semantic deal is here. As I said, eggplant is a berry. Now I have never heard it called that, nor found it next to the blueberries. By convention we consider it a vegetable. Technically we are wrong. Who really cares?

 

[vi edit]

My thoughts - if it's got bones, then it's got muscles to move them. That muscle is meat and it's damn good grilled.

 

[BigJ]

I'm a Catholic, and you're allowed by the church to eat fish on fridays, but no red meat or poultry. Why? I don't really know or care, but it gives me a great excuse to spend some extra cash on a shrimp parm hero Sometimes I slip, but I really don't care. I find it one of the more silly traditions in the religion (which is one of the reasons why I wouldn't exactly consider myself Catholic anymore, but still a Christian).

You do not have to give up red meat/poultry throughout lent, only on Fridays. Supposed to give something you like up though.

Also, theres some rule or some sh!t that allows elderly people and younger children who have not made their Communion to eat red meat/poultry on Fridays. Weird sh!t.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: ViperXX

if it's not a meat, what is it?

Beats the crap outta me. He said it was Friday so he doesn't eat meat just fish. I said fish is meat. He said no it's not. I was like ok so is it a vegetable?

Catholics give up Meat for Lent. To them Fish is NOT meat. You had a presupposition that he thought of meat in your terms. It was your own blindness that led to your foolish mistake. That and you probably insulted the hell out of him. Now you are even.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

its fish on fridays only, it was started during the 1600s or 1500s to help italian fishers who didn't have enough demand for their product. so the pope said that all the catholics had to eat fish on fridays. its not no "meat" during lent.

I am simply telling you what my cousin does. He is Catholic and they give up meat on Fridays for Lent. They have done it as a long I can remember. They eat meat everyday BUT Friday. They eat Fish on Friday. Sorry if I didn't clarify.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: notfred
Cathloics think lots of things that don't make any sense. Take communion for example. You eat a cracker and and some grape juice, and it actually physically turns into the body and blood of Jesus Christ. Now, not only do they belcie that, but they believe that eating thier god is a good thing. Fish being a vegetable is minor in comparison.

it was symbolic, and thats what jesus was supposed to have done at the last supper. when jesus himself was saying "eat my body and drink my blood" it sure would seem like a good thing

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I am still not sure what the big semantic deal is here. As I said, eggplant is a berry. Now I have never heard it called that, nor found it next to the blueberries. By convention we consider it a vegetable. Technically we are wrong. Who really cares?

all fruits are vegetables but not all vegetables are fruits

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: floccus
Ok, I was raised Catholic, but I'm not (long story, just go w/ it...) The whole thing with Lent is giving up something you love in order to become closer with God. Because red meat was still a staple for most people back in the day, it was given up. Poultry wasn't widely eaten and fish was seen as being a poor food (especially bottom feeders). So, fish is allowed by Catholic dogma. The one thing I'm still trying to figure out is eggs? Any help? My family will eat eggs on fridays, but not poultry... so?

wrong! you give up something, but it can be whatever, its just supposed to be something you would miss. it does *not* have to be meat, though if you would miss it, it would certainly be elligible.

Hmmm. They way my cousin explained it was meat+something else that you did. Does it not vary?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored
http://kidshealth.org/parent/nutrition_fit/nutrition/pyramid.html

Tell your co-worker to point out where on the food pyramid fish belongs.... and just to make him look stupid, ask him to first ignore the image of a fish in the meat category.

The food pyramid angers me.

Take two aspirin, drink something from the Dairy category and call me in the morning.

I'm serious. It's a bunch of crap. It is extremely general, and not even remotely accurate.

It doesen't differentiate between good and bad fats, or carbs. Most dieticians agree that the food pyramid needs to be revamped. I read an article on this very subject not long ago. The new proposed pyramid does indeed differentiate between the different fats, etc. and is much better.

As if it's going to change the way us Americans eat anyway.. but still.

You read an article about it and now you hate it? Man... that puts fear in me thinking of all the people who read Al-Jazeera...

No, that's not what I meant. LOL... I've realized that the food pyramid is a joke for a long time. I was just saying that I was reading that they're actually working on changing it now, which is a good thing.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Millennium

I am simply telling you what my cousin does. He is Catholic and they give up meat on Fridays for Lent. They have done it as a long I can remember. They eat meat everyday BUT Friday. They eat Fish on Friday. Sorry if I didn't clarify.

right, but the rule isn't "no meat on fridays in lent" its "fish on fridays in lent" though many people have confused the two.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Millennium

I am simply telling you what my cousin does. He is Catholic and they give up meat on Fridays for Lent. They have done it as a long I can remember. They eat meat everyday BUT Friday. They eat Fish on Friday. Sorry if I didn't clarify.

right, but the rule isn't "no meat on fridays in lent" its "fish on fridays in lent" though many people have confused the two.

Sure as hell isn't the rule to all of Bethpage, NY. They all think its no red meat/poultry on fridays. Guess thats just my town though. Silly rule anyway, I say screw it and roast a pig!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Hmmm. They way my cousin explained it was meat+something else that you did. Does it not vary?

like i said, the rule isn't that you're giving up meat, its that you eat fish on friday's (to support long dead italian fishermen). you're supposed to give up something you like during the whole of lent. giving something up is a far older part of lent.

 

[vi edit]

Sure as hell isn't the rule to all of Bethpage, NY. They all think its no red meat/poultry on fridays. Guess thats just my town though. Silly rule anyway, I say screw it and roast a pig!

My whole family had it messed up then because it was no meat, not YOU HAVE TO eat fish. Lot's of mac 'n cheese on friday's during lent.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Millennium

I am simply telling you what my cousin does. He is Catholic and they give up meat on Fridays for Lent. They have done it as a long I can remember. They eat meat everyday BUT Friday. They eat Fish on Friday. Sorry if I didn't clarify.

right, but the rule isn't "no meat on fridays in lent" its "fish on fridays in lent" though many people have confused the two.

Sure as hell isn't the rule to all of Bethpage, NY. They all think its no red meat/poultry on fridays. Guess thats just my town though. Silly rule anyway, I say screw it and roast a pig!

well if you're supposed to be eating fish then eating red meat and poultry would be verboten

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I am still not sure what the big semantic deal is here. As I said, eggplant is a berry. Now I have never heard it called that, nor found it next to the blueberries. By convention we consider it a vegetable. Technically we are wrong. Who really cares?

all fruits are vegetables but not all vegetables are fruits

Hmm, I think this statement would be wholly incorrect.

Fruits have seeds on the inside. Vegetables do not.

I'm not sure what defines a berry though.

 

[Stojakapimp]

does ATOT not post my replies? I swear, people just pass me up all day long.

I said this earlier...strictly speaking, and I mean very strictly speaking, you should fast from meat (including fish), certain oils, and dairy products. But that's strictly speaking. A majority of people only fast from meat but still eat fish...some also fast from eggs and dairy. I'm not positive about the eggs and dairy, but back in the day eating meat was considered a delicacy, so it is important to not eat meat during Great Lent because we should be morning the death of Jesus Christ. After he is ressurected, then meat is acceptable again and there is a big ceremony with lots of meat...because it's a celebration. At least that what I think...could be a little off

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Sure as hell isn't the rule to all of Bethpage, NY. They all think its no red meat/poultry on fridays. Guess thats just my town though. Silly rule anyway, I say screw it and roast a pig!

My whole family had it messed up then because it was no meat, not YOU HAVE TO eat fish. Lot's of mac 'n cheese on friday's during lent.

I work in an italian restaurant on Fridays, so just imagine all the nice pasta dishes i can choose from

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I am still not sure what the big semantic deal is here. As I said, eggplant is a berry. Now I have never heard it called that, nor found it next to the blueberries. By convention we consider it a vegetable. Technically we are wrong. Who really cares?

all fruits are vegetables but not all vegetables are fruits

Hmm, I think this statement would be wholly incorrect.

Fruits have seeds on the inside. Vegetables do not.

I'm not sure what defines a berry though.

veg·e·ta·ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vjt-bl, vj-t-)
n.

1.
1. A plant cultivated for an edible part, such as the root of the beet, the leaf of spinach, or the flower buds of broccoli or cauliflower.
2. The edible part of such a plant.
3. A member of the vegetable kingdom; a plant.

a fruit would be an edible part of a plant. a fruit is anything with seeds in it.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I am still not sure what the big semantic deal is here. As I said, eggplant is a berry. Now I have never heard it called that, nor found it next to the blueberries. By convention we consider it a vegetable. Technically we are wrong. Who really cares?

all fruits are vegetables but not all vegetables are fruits

Hmm, I think this statement would be wholly incorrect.

Fruits have seeds on the inside. Vegetables do not.

I'm not sure what defines a berry though.

veg·e·ta·ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vjt-bl, vj-t-)
n.

1.
1. A plant cultivated for an edible part, such as the root of the beet, the leaf of spinach, or the flower buds of broccoli or cauliflower.
2. The edible part of such a plant.
3. A member of the vegetable kingdom; a plant.

a fruit would be an edible part of a plant. a fruit is anything with seeds in it.

You can't have your cake and eat it too:

meat ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mt)
n.
The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.
The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut.
The essence, substance, or gist: the meat of the editorial.
Slang. Something that one enjoys or excels in; a forte: Tennis is his meat.
Nourishment; food: ?Love is not all: it is not meat nor drink? (Edna St. Vincent Millay).
Vulgar Slang.
The human body regarded as an object of sexual desire.
The genitals.

If all fruits are vegetables, then fish is not meat.

 

[hzl eyed grl]

Is fish meat?

Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I am still not sure what the big semantic deal is here. As I said, eggplant is a berry. Now I have never heard it called that, nor found it next to the blueberries. By convention we consider it a vegetable. Technically we are wrong. Who really cares?

all fruits are vegetables but not all vegetables are fruits

Hmm, I think this statement would be wholly incorrect.

Fruits have seeds on the inside. Vegetables do not.

I'm not sure what defines a berry though.

veg·e·ta·ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vjt-bl, vj-t-)
n.

1.
1. A plant cultivated for an edible part, such as the root of the beet, the leaf of spinach, or the flower buds of broccoli or cauliflower.
2. The edible part of such a plant.
3. A member of the vegetable kingdom; a plant.

a fruit would be an edible part of a plant. a fruit is anything with seeds in it.

ahh, Interesting. I was under the impression that the seeds fact was apart of the definition.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Sure as hell isn't the rule to all of Bethpage, NY. They all think its no red meat/poultry on fridays. Guess thats just my town though. Silly rule anyway, I say screw it and roast a pig!

My whole family had it messed up then because it was no meat, not YOU HAVE TO eat fish. Lot's of mac 'n cheese on friday's during lent.

Yeah I just talked to my cousin. They don't do it that way. They are against meat on Friday. They can eat fish, but lots of people eats salads or pastas.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

You can't have your cake and eat it too:

meat ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mt)
n.
The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.
The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut.
The essence, substance, or gist: the meat of the editorial.
Slang. Something that one enjoys or excels in; a forte: Tennis is his meat.
Nourishment; food: ?Love is not all: it is not meat nor drink? (Edna St. Vincent Millay).
Vulgar Slang.
The human body regarded as an object of sexual desire.
The genitals.

If all fruits are vegetables, then fish is not meat.

it doesn't say that fish isn't meat, it just says "especially" not "only"