Is fish meat?

[Looney]

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Besides, i don't buy it. Just because somebody believes something is wrong to eat, doesn't mean it's not meat. I'm sure Jews think pork and bacon is meat, even if they don't eat it. I just don't see how you concluded that just because somebody believes something is wrong to eat, that it's not considered meat. I don't like eggplant, and would never eat it... but that doesn't mean i don't think it's not a vegetable.

You should try eggplant deep fried.... MMmmmmmmm....

Yeah, i was only half-kidding there. I do like eggplant parmesian.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: notfred
Cathloics think lots of things that don't make any sense. Take communion for example. You eat a cracker and and some grape juice, and it actually physically turns into the body and blood of Jesus Christ. Now, not only do they belcie that, but they believe that eating thier god is a good thing. Fish being a vegetable is minor in comparison.

But you don't have any proof it doesn't. It takes just as much of a leap of faith for you to believe the contrary as it does for them to believe their way.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Millennium

Catholics give up Meat for Lent. To them Fish is NOT meat. You had a presupposition that he thought of meat in your terms. It was your own blindness that led to your foolish mistake. That and you probably insulted the hell out of him. Now you are even.

Heh!

The whole time my son was growing up, he swore that chicken wasn't meat, pork wasn't meat, hot dogs weren't meat, veal wasn't meat, etc.

So you are now talking about a little kid compared to someone who was giving a religous POV. Astronaut.

 

[4Lclovergirl]

Sorry, I wasn't saying that it was a relisios debate, but I saw it headed that way by a few of the comments. I am sure that every relision has somehting that people think doesn't make sense. If not, there wouldn't be different religions.

Also, I agree, fish is meat. Just as much as a worm is an animal. But on survivor, the vegitarian that wouldn't eat a cows gut, could eat a live worm... I still can't figure that one out.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

You are missing his POV as a Catholic. His religon tells him it is not meat in HIS case. You can argue all day long but you miss his POV. This is akin to someone arguing with a Jew that a Pig is acceptable to eat.

If someone's religion tells them that the earth is flat, the sky is brown, and that it's okay to rape children does that still make them right?

How do you KNOW that you are right that Fish is a meat. You are taking just a much of a leap of faith as a Catholic.

 

[ViperXX]

Well, i don't think this is a religious debate (although i completely agree with you), we're just arguing about the definition of meat.

The guy started to have a poll as people walked in to work. 4 out of 4 people agreed with him and said fish was not meat. I was the only one who said fish is a meat product. I kept asking them "so if fish is not meat than what is it"? No one had an answer.

 

[Mill]

From dictionary.com

Meat:

The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.
The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut.
The essence, substance, or gist: the meat of the editorial.
Slang. Something that one enjoys or excels in; a forte: Tennis is his meat.
Nourishment; food: ?Love is not all: it is not meat nor drink? (Edna St. Vincent Millay).
Vulgar Slang.
The human body regarded as an object of sexual desire.
The genitals.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Man guys...it's just symantecs (sp?). Fish is actually meat. Yet many people who practice fasting treat it like it isn't meat. Strictly speaking, if you are fasting, then you shouldn't eat fish either. You shouldn't eat certain oils or diary products either, but that's besides the point. But again, that's mainly what very strict faster, like monks, practice.

So yes, fish is meat.

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored
http://kidshealth.org/parent/nutrition_fit/nutrition/pyramid.html

Tell your co-worker to point out where on the food pyramid fish belongs.... and just to make him look stupid, ask him to first ignore the image of a fish in the meat category.

The food pyramid angers me.

Take two aspirin, drink something from the Dairy category and call me in the morning.

2 aspirin and pot of cheese. Gotcha.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Fish is meat

Eggplant is a berry,

and a tomato is a fruit.

 

[vi edit]

How do you KNOW that you are right that Fish is a meat. You are taking just a much of a leap of faith as a Catholic.

We can argue semantics all day. Do fish have flesh? I say they do. I've been catching and filleting them for 20 years now. Meat is simply the flesh of an animal. Fish are animals, fish have flesh, therefore fish have meat.

The fact that they aren't warm blooded makes no difference IMHO. It's not a leap of faith, is a simple observation.

 

[ViperXX]

The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.

So by this definition you can no longer ask for white "meat" or dark "meat" at KFC?

 

[vi edit]

P.S. I was raised catholic and attended catholic masses for 18 years. There is a time when a person realizes that what's spoonfed to them is sometimes complete and absolute bullsh!t.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

How do you KNOW that you are right that Fish is a meat. You are taking just a much of a leap of faith as a Catholic.

We can argue semantics all day. Do fish have flesh? I say they do. I've been catching and filleting them for 20 years now. Meat is simply the flesh of an animal. Fish are animals, fish have flesh, therefore fish have meat.

The fact that they aren't warm blooded makes no difference IMHO. It's not a leap of faith, is a simple observation.

If you notice I don't really share a differing viewpoint than you. I am just waiting for a Catholic to come in here and actually tell you why they believe what they do. I can't do it for them because I don't know. Vi how come you haven't made it to the private topic yet?

 

[Ender]

Not meat, Poultry!

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Millennium

Catholics give up Meat for Lent. To them Fish is NOT meat. You had a presupposition that he thought of meat in your terms. It was your own blindness that led to your foolish mistake. That and you probably insulted the hell out of him. Now you are even.

Heh!

The whole time my son was growing up, he swore that chicken wasn't meat, pork wasn't meat, hot dogs weren't meat, veal wasn't meat, etc.

So you are now talking about a little kid compared to someone who was giving a religous POV. Astronaut.

Calm down.

I was just making a joke about how a Catholic son, raised in a Catholic household could interpret "meat" and "fish".

 

[4Lclovergirl]

Haven't I said why we believe what we do? It came from honoring Jeasus, and his fast for 40 days and 40 nights. Since we are not going to fast for that long, instead, during the 40 days of lent, we refrain from eating certian types of meat.

However, the decision to cut out meats, and allow fish, came from the fact that most of the followers of Jesus were fishermen. I can't help the fact that the church was currupt even back in the day, heck, we all know there are problems. But we sitll follow it b/cit's tradition.

 

[ViperXX]

However, the decision to cut out meats, and allow fish

But fish IS meat.

 

[floccus]

Ok, I was raised Catholic, but I'm not (long story, just go w/ it...) The whole thing with Lent is giving up something you love in order to become closer with God. Because red meat was still a staple for most people back in the day, it was given up. Poultry wasn't widely eaten and fish was seen as being a poor food (especially bottom feeders). So, fish is allowed by Catholic dogma. The one thing I'm still trying to figure out is eggs? Any help? My family will eat eggs on fridays, but not poultry... so?

 

[Looney]

The one thing I'm still trying to figure out is eggs?

Whoa, and even bigger riddle than my oyster question.

 

[4Lclovergirl]

Well, alot of people dont' see eggs as meat, b/c it is not developed yet. It is yoke, not meat.

And as I was saying, they decided to cut out all meats EXCEPT (not saying fish isn't meat!) fish, b/c of who was making the rules. There reasoning may have been it was a poor food, but it was also due to this reason. Most priests will even admit it.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: ViperXX

if it's not a meat, what is it?

Beats the crap outta me. He said it was Friday so he doesn't eat meat just fish. I said fish is meat. He said no it's not. I was like ok so is it a vegetable?

Catholics give up Meat for Lent. To them Fish is NOT meat. You had a presupposition that he thought of meat in your terms. It was your own blindness that led to your foolish mistake. That and you probably insulted the hell out of him. Now you are even.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

its fish on fridays only, it was started during the 1600s or 1500s to help italian fishers who didn't have enough demand for their product. so the pope said that all the catholics had to eat fish on fridays. its not no "meat" during lent.

 

[bonk102]

fish is fish

chicken is chicken

meat is meat

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: floccus
Ok, I was raised Catholic, but I'm not (long story, just go w/ it...) The whole thing with Lent is giving up something you love in order to become closer with God. Because red meat was still a staple for most people back in the day, it was given up. Poultry wasn't widely eaten and fish was seen as being a poor food (especially bottom feeders). So, fish is allowed by Catholic dogma. The one thing I'm still trying to figure out is eggs? Any help? My family will eat eggs on fridays, but not poultry... so?

wrong! you give up something, but it can be whatever, its just supposed to be something you would miss. it does *not* have to be meat, though if you would miss it, it would certainly be elligible.

 

[clicknext]

Yes. It's just not counted as meat by some religions' standards.