Is "Executive Orders" (Tom Clancy) appropriate read for a 13 yr old ?

[foghorn67]

What's with the fucking I'll parent your child mentality? Seriously, he asked question about a book. Not advice on parenting.

 

[0roo0roo]

You're son is 13. If he goes to a Public school, chances are he had several biology/health classes. he might have even gotten laid.

Trying to "protect" your children from the inevitable just frustrates their development.

yup only makes going behind pa's back all the more fun.
the only way he's not been exposed to tons of sleazy material is if you keep him in a dungeon, or if he's really that dim. i mean seriously dim...

anyways filtering his reading content at 13 is overkill.

 

[surfsatwerk]

dp

 

[surfsatwerk]

What's with the fucking I'll parent your child mentality? Seriously, he a question about a book. Not advice on parenting.

If I see a parent beating their child in public I say something. If I see a parent attempting to intentionally emotionally retard their child I say something.

It takes a village to make sure morons don't fudge up their kids too badly.

 

[foghorn67]

If I see a parent beating their child in public I say something. If I see a parent attempting to intentionally emotionally retard their child I say something.

It takes a village to make sure morons don't fudge up their kids too badly.

Wow, you are comparing a beaten child to one that is sheltered? Seriously.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Wow, you are comparing a beaten child to one that is sheltered? Seriously.

Abuse is abuse.

 

[foghorn67]

Abuse is abuse.

That is not abuse. Holy crap, just call social services on him.
It's called parental discretion. That is up to father and mother alone when it comes that.

 

[0roo0roo]

That is not abuse. Holy crap, just call social services on him.
It's called parental discretion. That is up to father and mother alone when it comes that.

its not abuse. it is however oppressive unrealistic parenting and theres really no reason not to call him on it.

 

[foghorn67]

its not abuse. it is however oppressive unrealistic parenting and theres really no reason not to call him on it.

It's obvious the dad has done a fair job of nurturing a habit of reading, and providing the means to do so. I wouldn't even categorize that progress as oppressive. Oppressive would be only allowing certain idealistic books that fits the father's mindset. Like if I were to say Lord of the Rings cool, Harry Potter bad.

 

[lxskllr]

What's with the fucking I'll parent your child mentality? Seriously, he asked question about a book. Not advice on parenting.

Because this is an OT discussion forum. It's a valid topic, and is interesting to hear other's views on it. Anyone asking for advice here needs be prepared to hear things they don't want to hear. They can choose to engage, or take the advice they were looking for and leave, but it's unrealistic to expect everyone to play by the OP's rules.

 

[destrekor]

When I was around that age, not sure when I started with the big-people novels and when I basically stopped (haven't read a book of my own choice in awhile, seems to be the theme here)... but basically, let's say that age as an average:

Michael Crichton:
Jurassic Park (or was it The Lost World... cannot remember), Sphere, Prey, State of Fear

Dean Koontz:
Phantoms, got half way through Strangers (last book I ever picked up actually)

Stephen King:
half way through Dreamcatcher. Read one or two other books of his... I think... one was for class but enjoyed it

Tom Clancy:
Rainbow Six

Rainbow Six is basically my favorite book. Got through it in less than 2 weeks, and that's fast as I'm a slow reader at times. Not so much "slow", but... ADD. I'll read something, and realize I didn't exactly pay attention to what I just read. So I'll read it again. I cannot possibly fathom how many times I've re-read entire paragraphs, and even pages, sometimes multiple times in a row. Typically when it starts getting bad, I'll try to finish the chapter or get to a section break and put it down.

I recommend Rainbow Six as a Tom Clancy first read. It uses some characters established in other books, but it's very much a book on its own, and I found it to be a very engaging and entertaining read. There is anti-criminal/anti-terror violence (Rainbow is a special task force).

 

[feralkid]

Goatse has not been the end of my morality or sanity. War, faminine, rape those things freak me out... when they happen in REAL LIFE.

Is that where only the women starve?

 

[lxskllr]

I started reading horror books when I was 11 or 12. I'd go through 2+ novels a week. Stephen King was a huge favorite, but I read tons of other books. We'd go to the library in school, and I'd look for books that had good cover art. If the synopsis on the back looked good, I'd borrow it. I was pretty good at selecting books. Out of the scores I read in that genre, I could count the losers on 1 hand.

 

[foghorn67]

Because this is an OT discussion forum. It's a valid topic, and is interesting to hear other's views on it. Anyone asking for advice here needs be prepared to hear things they don't want to hear. They can choose to engage, or take the advice they were looking for and leave, but it's unrealistic to expect everyone to play by the OP's rules.

That's a fair statement, and offering an opinion is one thing. However the extremes people are making are logic fail.

 

[foghorn67]

I started reading horror books when I was 11 or 12. I'd go through 2+ novels a week. Stephen King was a huge favorite, but I read tons of other books. We'd go to the library in school, and I'd look for books that had good cover art. If the synopsis on the back looked good, I'd borrow it. I was pretty good at selecting books. Out of the scores I read in that genre, I could count the losers on 1 hand.

Stephen King, lol. He used to write some good ones. IT scared the living crap out of me. Clown fear?

 

[lxskllr]

Stephen King, lol. He used to write some good ones. IT scared the living crap out of me. Clown fear?

I loved The Shining. I was a little disappointed that my daughter didn't enjoy it as much as I did. She liked it well enough, and it got her reading more(just reading really), so I can consider it a success :^)

 

[MotF Bane]

18.

Yeah, you're officially in a fantasy world. I feel sorry for your son.

 

[eldorado99]

Let the boy read it.

 

[TehMac]

Like if I were to say Lord of the Rings cool, Harry Potter bad.

That is 100% good parenting. I approve of this method 300% and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[TehMac]

13?
i'd be surprised if he hasn't already seen the cleveland steamer in action online already.

I have never ever seen that, nor do I. Perhaps the dad has the right idea after all

 

[Kadarin]

What's with the fucking I'll parent your child mentality? Seriously, he asked question about a book. Not advice on parenting.

When the op asks "Is "Executive Orders" (Tom Clancy) appropriate read for a 13 yr old?" he is indirectly asking for advice about parenting. I just found it a little odd that this guy wants to isolate his kid from all things erotic until he's 18, because personally I disagree with that point of view.

In my opinion this country needs less sexual repression, not more. Still, I accept the fact that people will disagree with me on that sometimes.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I was scanning through the threads and this caught my eye. I'm wondering what the OP is thinking? Perhaps if he was still an avid reader, he might have a clue.

By age 13, I had read The Prince, The Kama Sutra, Clausewitz On War, The Third Reich, Sun Tzu's Art of War and many of the works of the Marquis de Sade just to name a few.

Try discussing what your son is reading if your concerned. Trying to 'protect' your 13 year old by screening his reading is futile, akin to sticking your head in the sand and, stupid on a level I can only explain after you've read a bit more.

 

[Turin39789]

I was scanning through the threads and this caught my eye. I'm wondering what the OP is thinking? Perhaps if he was still an avid reader, he might have a clue.

By age 13, I had read The Prince, The Kama Sutra, Clausewitz On War, The Third Reich, Sun Tzu's Art of War and many of the works of the Marquis de Sade just to name a few.

Try discussing what your son is reading if your concerned. Trying to 'protect' your 13 year old by screening his reading is futile, akin to sticking your head in the sand and, stupid on a level I can only explain after you've read a bit more.

Yea, I think I liked Neitsche around that age. Can't say I really got much from it though, need to try to read it again.

I remeber getting onto a Chrichton kick around the time Jurrasic Park came out. I really liked Sphere. I remember reading Disclosure in the 5th grade, specifically because someone in one of my classes took the book away in the middle of a class and saw the earmarked steamy parts.

 

[Turin39789]

And while we are telling you what to do, why are you searching for things for him to read? I used to just ride my bike 2 miles or so to the library and come home with a backpack full of books.

I need to get into the habit again, more to learn in novels than in current events anyway. I doubt I will ever read as much as I did when I was young though.

 

[BoomerD]

I'm in the process of reading this one again. (I was bored and out of fresh reading material.)

While there's some violence, for the most part, it's not all that graphic, and as in most Clancy novels, there's no graphic sex.

I second (or fourth) the suggestion to have him start at the beginning with the Clancy "John Ryan" novels. The timeline will be easier as will some of the underlying story lines.