Is AMD really faster?

RallyMaster

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It depends on what type of Turion she bought. A MT-30 will be hard-pressed to outperform a Pentium M 1.6 GHz. It is not always true that AMD is better. You will see soon that with Conroe and the latest Pentium M chips. Intel has been in the laptop market for a lot longer and has had time to perfect their products. IMO, I have had three AMD PCs but I will definitely go Intel for laptop.

Pentium 4s are outperformed by Athlon64s but Pentium Ms are hard to beat.
 

Markfw

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Anybody can post anything on the internet, thats a bunch of crap. I have a Turion laptop, and it screams.
 

stevty2889

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Pentium-M's peform pretty similar clock for clock to A64/turnions in a lot of applications. P4's and pentium-d's using the netburst architecture are a lot more inefficent and power hungry, which is why Intel is ditching netburst. Of course one major differance there could be between your machines is the hard drive..if you have a 5400 or 7200rpm drive, and hers has a 4200rpm drive, thats probably your differance right there..it's more likely the hard drive than the CPU thats the limiter in her machine.
 

Duvie

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Well you know what they say about info off the internet....


I say FUD...Intel faster??? Perhaps...10:1??? No way...

However we all know how INtel does crooked business...hence as in stated in AMD lawsuit...

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/07/12/1320202.shtml?tid=142&tid=118&tid=123
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/12/amd_vs_intel_code/
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/AMD_files_a...nst_Intel_in_US_federal_district_court
http://www.amdboard.com/pintospecial.html


I am not saying any of it has been proven true....that will be done in a court of law....Just a possible explanation....

Turion are not the leaders in laptops...should have been comparable to new Dothan laptops but not overwhelmingly faster...
 

furballi

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Get a desktop if you want real computing power. Notebook are for kids. Download Super Pi and run the 1M digits test. Compare the processing time between the two PCs and post here.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Anybody can post anything on the internet, thats a bunch of crap. I have a Turion laptop, and it screams.

Including this post of yours?

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: furballi
Get a desktop if you want real computing power. Notebook are for kids. Download Super Pi and run the 1M digits test. Compare the processing time between the two PCs and post here.

Stop smokin da C pipe. The last few years, laptops have been quite impressive. often rivaling desktops of equivalent specs.

 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Anybody can post anything on the internet, thats a bunch of crap. I have a Turion laptop, and it screams.

Including this post of yours?

Nice personal dig ahole. There is no way a Turion gets beat by a Pentium-M bt 10 to 1, and you know it.

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BrownTown

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: furballi
Get a desktop if you want real computing power. Notebook are for kids. Download Super Pi and run the 1M digits test. Compare the processing time between the two PCs and post here.

Stop smokin da C pipe. The last few years, laptops have been quite impressive. often rivaling desktops of equivalent specs.


well no crap they rival desktops of the same specs. Only probelm is they cost alot mroe for thsoe same specs, and there aint any way to get a high end processor into a laptop. I don't exactly see any FX60 laptops, deffinitely no prayer in hell of getting a PentiumD in the thing. Also you get the graphics cards way underclocked. Anyone buying a notebook for pure processing pwoer is getting a very crappy performance/price comapred to a desktop
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Anybody can post anything on the internet, thats a bunch of crap. I have a Turion laptop, and it screams.

Including this post of yours?

Nice personal dig ahole. There is no way a Turion gets beat by a Pentium-M bt 10 to 1, and you know it.

Quoted for permanence. While I agree that 10:1 is a severe exaggeration, I don't disagree that the PM completed the Excel task faster than the Turion. So what's your problem? Why the name calling?

 

dmens

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The fact that duvie is implying intel's official involvement in that insanely ridiculous internet tale is pretty hilarious. Is that your definition of "viral marketing"?

Nice links by the way:

http://www.amdboard.com/pintospecial.html

And a bunch of irrelevant links about intel compilers not being friendly for AMD processors... as if that were illegal. HAHAHA. Maybe intel should sue GNU for not making gcc P4 friendly.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: furballi
Get a desktop if you want real computing power. Notebook are for kids. Download Super Pi and run the 1M digits test. Compare the processing time between the two PCs and post here.

Stop smokin da C pipe. The last few years, laptops have been quite impressive. often rivaling desktops of equivalent specs.


well no crap they rival desktops of the same specs. Only probelm is they cost alot mroe for thsoe same specs, and there aint any way to get a high end processor into a laptop. I don't exactly see any FX60 laptops, deffinitely no prayer in hell of getting a PentiumD in the thing. Also you get the graphics cards way underclocked. Anyone buying a notebook for pure processing pwoer is getting a very crappy performance/price comapred to a desktop

So get a Core Duo. Plenty of processing power there, no? You get what you pay for. More specifically, portability and power. Sure, you pay more for laptops, for good reasons.

 

DrMrLordX

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OP's story sounds like compelte FUD, sorry. There's a reason why we run benchmarks on tech sites instead of going by vague testimonials.

I'd like to see the origin of this text that was "copied and pasted from the web".
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
OP's story sounds like compelte FUD, sorry. There's a reason why we run benchmarks on tech sites instead of going by vague testimonials.

I'd like to see the origin of this text that was "copied and pasted from the web".

The only part that sounds like FUD is the 10:1 ratio used to describe the performance vista between Turion and PM in that excel app.

The rest of the story, while it may very well be fabricated, is of course possible any way you look at it.

 

sandorski

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I heard that people who use AMD are hackers and probably worship Satan. It was on the Web, it's true!
 

Zebo

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No way to independantly check the claims made hence irrelevant. Why do you guys think Anand and every other reviewer in the universe lists every bit of HW used, publically available SW, and verison numbers before doing a review?

Incidently, this kinda goes along the same lines why I have a problem with the Conroe benchmarks we saw but are also unable to verify.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: dmens
The fact that duvie is implying intel's official involvement in that insanely ridiculous internet tale is pretty hilarious. Is that your definition of "viral marketing"?

Nice links by the way:

http://www.amdboard.com/pintospecial.html

And a bunch of irrelevant links about intel compilers not being friendly for AMD processors... as if that were illegal. HAHAHA. Maybe intel should sue GNU for not making gcc P4 friendly.


You know you are making a raving case that INtel engineers are rather dense!!! Where did I quote INtel was behind this story...The comment was amount INtel and alleged compiler issue...as listed in the lawsuit...You fargin genius!!!!

Pull you head out opf Intel arse, and breathe!!!!! I just grabbed the four links off of google's first page while doing a search....

I dont think AMD was saying it was illegal...they likely listed it in the lawsuit they filed to show other non friendly business tactics....
 

dmens

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Looks like you're too retarded to line up your own chain of thought... here's a simple illustration:

I say FUD...Intel faster??? Perhaps...10:1??? No way.. However we all know how INtel does crooked business...hence as in stated in AMD lawsuit...

FUD dismissal to "crooked business" on the next line. Pretty clear cut implication there.

Since you're talking about the lawsuit, sounds like the AMD counsel is acting the fool confusing the judge by including a complaint of perfectly legal "unfriendly business tactics". Yet more proof the whole thing is a showboat, LOL.
 

dmens

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Originally posted by: openwheelformula1
oh no, you people have awakend the Intel God. Dmens to the rescue.

Hey dipshit, learned how to read yet? Still waiting for a response on TDP... :clock:

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robertk2012

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The average person tells 1.6 lies a day on the internet. I dont think the intel would be that much faster but I could definately see it being faster.
 

Markfw

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Hey, dmens worksfor Intel, we don't believe them, so why should we believe him ? The amount of FUD coming out of both is so bad, you need hipwaders to make your way though it....

Edit: Somebody should lock this flamefest.....