Is a joke on shooting illegal immigrants acceptable from our government?

[Svnla]

........ "Illegal immigration is serious because it's illegal immigration!!!!" is not a good argument, IMO......

Allow me to jump in (speaking from a point of view of a LEGAL non white immigrant myself).

ILLEGAL immigration is serious because we, as a nation, can't afford to let million and million of illiterate and unskill people to sneak in. We don't have open frontier/land/wide open space as we used to have in the 1800s. Resources such as water, land, comodities are finite and getting less and less available. Also, more and more available jobs (good paying) are demanding people with highly skills and education. We don't have (that much) the back breaking manual labor works that don't require education/skills anymore.

Another thing about ILLEGALS is that they ignore laws and regulations AND get reward for that. We have million and millions of well to do, well educated, highly skill people from other countries, and foreign students that were educated in the US, that want to get here LEGALLY yet they have to suffer years and years of waiting and huge cost to get here LEGALLY (if they are lucky). Why even bother to have immigration laws if a person can sneak in here ILLEGALLY and get ahead in front of million and million of others? No, ammnesty won't work because we tried that before several times and we are having bigger ILLEGAL immigration problems now.

Another thing, we as a nation (most of us), want the best for our country, therefore, we should get the best individuals for our "team". Let say you want to set up a sport team, would you pick the best players/highly skill for your team or the sorry players with "heart break" stories? Someone told me a while back, if we have to (in theory), we can make doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc. to mow yards, clean up toilet, nanny our kids but there is no way we can make illiterate people to do tasks of doctors/lawyers/engineers/highly skill and well educate people.

One last thing, LEGAL immigrants bring innovation, skills, ideas, creativity, brain power, and be highly beneficial to our nation. For example: Andy Groove of Intel, Google founders, Yahoo co-founders, and much more. See here (note the different racial/background make up)= http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/08/0821_most_successful_immigrants/1.htm

Would you rather let those people in and help us built a better US in a more competitive world or those illiterate ILLEGALS? The choice is clear.

 

[Patranus]

It shouldn't be a joke.
THey should put signs on the border stating that trespassers into the united states will be shot - like any other country.
Problem solved.

 

[Perknose]

Kansas Republican Rep. Virgil Peck came up with this interesting response to illegal immigration in the US:

"It looks like to me if shooting these immigrating feral hogs [from helicopters] works maybe we have found a [solution] to our illegal immigration problem."

He should be ashamed of himself, but he is not. He wouldn't even apologize at first.

“I was just speaking like a southeast Kansas person,” he told the Lawrence Journal World.

From The Kansas City Star newspaper:

Virgil Peck hurts Kansas with feral swine remark

Barb Shelly
Barb Shelly

Everything about what Kansas Rep. Virgil Peck said in a committee hearing two days ago was weird. But to me, the most inexplicable part was that he went out of his way to make his now-infamous comment about shooting illegal immigrants.

It wasn’t a slip of the tongue, an inappropriate aside made in the midst of a longer speech. It wasn’t a flippant answer to a question. None of that would have made Peck’s remarks excusable…just a little less weird.

But as it happened, Peck asked to speak on an amendment to a bill about Kansas’ ferel swine problem. The committee was discussing using sharpshooters in helicopters to control the herds. When the committee chairman recognized him, Peck made the remark that would travel around the world:

Looks like to me, if shooting these immigrating feral hogs works, maybe we have found a (solution) to our illegal immigration problem.​

The only explanation I can think of for such behavior is that the Republican legislator from southeast Kansas holds illegal immigrants in such utter contempt that he believes everyone else feels the same way.

“I was just speaking like a southeast Kansas person,” he told the Lawrence Journal World, though two other lawmakers from southeast Kansas have hastened to disassociate themselves and their part of the world from Peck’s reprehensible anything-but-funny attempt at a joke.

Another indication that Peck is out of touch with reality: He predicted no controversy over his remark. “I think it’s over,” he said to the Journal World reporter.

Hardly. By Tuesday, Peck was front-and-center on web sites and in newspapers all over the world. The state of Kansas was nursing a nasty black eye. And to think that Peck actually went out of his way to cause it all.

 

[Infohawk]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2150891

Repost, lock this baby up.

 

[wuliheron]

Cool, like hunting wild African game from helicopters! It sounds like fun, but wouldn't a little napalm work better?

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Hell yeah, slaughter those vermin animals!1!

 

[Zebo]

Of course he does! Libtards are pro-invasion of America, whether it's ants or illegal alien criminals who don't do much for themselves.

Thanks to leftists illegals are everywhere and they're destroying this country. And when ants invade your home you burn them. stomp them. poisen them. When someone invades your country, you kill them, just like ants. I've nothing against executing those who hire them either.

Uh no but shooting unarmed people who pose no imminent threat to you is wrong period. People are not ants. Ignoring the morality of killing unarmed people we had to set this system up because as apex predators we'd kill each other off over anything.

I personally think illegals have destroyed people's income at the bottom simple supply and demand, is breaking budgets, and will probably lead USA to look a lot like Mexico when dust settles. 1% elite, 5% middle class who serve them, and the rest in destitution and misery but I still wouldn't go killing people over it.

 

[wuliheron]

Uh no but shooting unarmed people who pose no imminent threat to you is wrong period. People are not ants. Ignoring the morality of killing unarmed people we had to set this system up because as apex predators we'd kill each other off over anything.

I personally think illegals have destroyed people's income at the bottom simple supply and demand, is breaking budgets, and will probably lead USA to look a lot like Mexico when dust settles. 1% elite, 5% middle class who serve them, and the rest in destitution and misery but I still wouldn't go killing people over it.

All we have to do is post signs saying, "Trespassers Will Be Shot!"

Of course, we'll have to make them bilingual.

 

[actuarial]

All we have to do is post signs saying, "Trespassers Will Be Shot!"

Of course, we'll have to make them bilingual.

So how do you determine a trespasser?

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

This type of thinking is pretty prevalent amongst conservatives. That's one of they reasons why they love guns so much, they have fantasies about it, but they also wouldn't do it ostensibly because they don't like going to prison. I think one resident ATPN conservative, Arkaign, explained it well:

You're an idiot. That shooter is a crazy, not a representative conservative.

 

[lothar]

All we have to do is post signs saying, "Trespassers Will Be Shot!"

Of course, we'll have to make them bilingual.

What about survivors?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Fourth Reich?

 

[wuliheron]

So how do you determine a trespasser?

If they ain't wearing boarder patrol uniforms they're trespassers.

Already in some places they just shoot to kill and ask questions later. That is, if you can still talk.

 

[wuliheron]

Fourth Reich?

Why not? Except we can do it American style. Instead of going after the Jews and the gays we can just shoot the illegal immigrants and maybe kill the poorest of the poor. Nobody likes the poor anyway and even if you cut off social security and welfare they'll still breed diseases and whatnot. Best to stop em from becoming a drain on society. Maybe grind em up for fertilizer and let em have a little dignity by providing one last useful service for society.

For a while there when the Japanese economy went in the toilet they had a rash of young men wandering off into the wood to commit suicide. They couldn't find jobs and it was the ultimate shame so they did the honorable thing. Some native Americans did similar things. If an old woman's husband died it was taboo to even notice her. Even her own children couldn't feed her or talk to her and she'd go off and kill herself. You just can't mess with nature son. The strong survive and weak get killed.

 

[her209]

Nobody likes the poor anyway and even if you cut off social security and welfare they'll still breed diseases and whatnot. Best to stop em from becoming a drain on society. Maybe grind em up for fertilizer and let em have a little dignity by providing one last useful service for society.

The rich love the poor when they aren't able to suck on the teet of the government. Keeps 'em in a perpetual state of poverty working for "the man".

 

[dawp]

You're an idiot. That shooter is a crazy, not a representative conservative.

no, but he is a conservative representative, which speaks loudly about those who elected him.

 

[piasabird]

Is invading Lybia justifiable?

 

[wuliheron]

The rich love the poor when they aren't able to suck on the teet of the government. Keeps 'em in a perpetual state of poverty working for "the man".

Yeah, but its like owning slaves. You need to breed them for good genes. The Nazis had the right idea, in fact, they really got a lot of these ideas from us, but they went about it the wrong way. People aren't dogs to be breed for floppy ears or whatever. We just need to follow nature example and weed out the weakest among us and that means the poorest of the poor and, especially, all the dead weight. We already do that to some extent by cutting off access to affordable drugs and what not, but we need to be more proactive. By making it a point to just take them out and shoot them it inspires all the others to work harder too.

 

[wuliheron]

Is invading Lybia justifiable?

Why of course. Is there any particular type of justification you prefer? I'm sure I can find someone willing to say it is God's will, some scientist or economist or whatever to explain why its for the best, etc.

 

[Linflas]

You're an idiot. That shooter is a crazy, not a representative conservative.

Ask him if Richard Trumka is a good representative of the "progressive" view point. He is a guy in daily communication with the White House as well as a very frequent visitor. Regarding union violence against scabs he is quoted as saying "I'm saying if you strike a match and you put your finger in it, you are likely to get burned".

 

[Fayd]

Is this a lack of professionalism? Or, a slip of his true wishes and intentions?



http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/17/kansas.rep.immigrants/index.html?hpt=T2

EDIT: title SHOULD have read; "Is a joke on shooting illegal immigrants acceptable from our government officials?"

no, he should apologize for wearing a green suit. wtf?

 

[HomerJS]

Sounds like 2nd amendment remedy