Iriver vs. Ipod vs. the rest

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
I like my ipod mini.
/thread

I suppose if all you want is mp3 capability, the mini isn't bad, too expensive but not bad

 

[Chode Messiah]

i like polls

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
I like my ipod mini.
/thread

I suppose if all you want is mp3 capability, the mini isn't bad, too expensive but not bad

the newer ones are slightly better at sq but the old ones are pretty bad. if yuo do a square oattern test, you can tell the caps are far not up to the task.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
I like my ipod mini.
/thread

I suppose if all you want is mp3 capability, the mini isn't bad, too expensive but not bad

the newer ones are slightly better at sq but the old ones are pretty bad. if yuo do a square oattern test, you can tell the caps are far not up to the task.

everybody keeps going on about the sound quality difference, but wouldn't the difference be in how much compression is used on the files?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
I like my ipod mini.
/thread

I suppose if all you want is mp3 capability, the mini isn't bad, too expensive but not bad

the newer ones are slightly better at sq but the old ones are pretty bad. if yuo do a square oattern test, you can tell the caps are far not up to the task.

everybody keeps going on about the sound quality difference, but wouldn't the difference be in how much compression is used on the files?

look at this
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[Cawchy87]

forgot dell dj's

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

you can easily buy a rio forge and a 1gig SD card and that would be much cheaper than an iriver, plus the on-board memory, the FM tuner, and the size... that would make the rio a better buy then. iriver's are overpriced.

 

[Chode Messiah]

Originally posted by: Cawchy87
forgot dell dj's

those are sweet

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: Cawchy87
forgot dell dj's

updated thanks, please, keep em coming!

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

you can easily buy a rio forge and a 1gig SD card and that would be much cheaper than an iriver, plus the on-board memory, the FM tuner, and the size... that would make the rio a better buy then. iriver's are overpriced.

if iriver's are overpriced, then what is the ipod? outrageously overpriced?

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

you can easily buy a rio forge and a 1gig SD card and that would be much cheaper than an iriver, plus the on-board memory, the FM tuner, and the size... that would make the rio a better buy then. iriver's are overpriced.

if iriver's are overpriced, then what is the ipod? outrageously overpriced?

the ipod 20gig and the H10 20gig retails for the same price and the 5gig retails for $250 while you can get a 6gig ipod mini for less than that. i'm not saying the ipod's are cheap, but the iriver's aren't exactly bargains either. surely i'd be impressed by iriver if my favorite thing to do is viewing jpeg on my mp3 player.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

you can easily buy a rio forge and a 1gig SD card and that would be much cheaper than an iriver, plus the on-board memory, the FM tuner, and the size... that would make the rio a better buy then. iriver's are overpriced.

if iriver's are overpriced, then what is the ipod? outrageously overpriced?

the ipod 20gig and the H10 20gig retails for the same price and the 5gig retails for $250 while you can get a 6gig ipod mini for less than that. i'm not saying the ipod's are cheap, but the iriver's aren't exactly bargains either. surely i'd be impressed by iriver if my favorite thing to do is viewing jpeg on my mp3 player.

or text files

i just like how the iriver is not propreitary to its software like ipod is. Creative's are also nice this way. and I got my 5GB iriver for 230 and it came with both chargable viz usb or via the wall adapter that came with it. ipod mini's dont come with the wall adapter

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

you can easily buy a rio forge and a 1gig SD card and that would be much cheaper than an iriver, plus the on-board memory, the FM tuner, and the size... that would make the rio a better buy then. iriver's are overpriced.

if iriver's are overpriced, then what is the ipod? outrageously overpriced?

the ipod 20gig and the H10 20gig retails for the same price and the 5gig retails for $250 while you can get a 6gig ipod mini for less than that. i'm not saying the ipod's are cheap, but the iriver's aren't exactly bargains either. surely i'd be impressed by iriver if my favorite thing to do is viewing jpeg on my mp3 player.

or text files

i just like how the iriver is not propreitary to its software like ipod is. Creative's are also nice this way. and I got my 5GB iriver for 230 and it came with both chargable viz usb or via the wall adapter that came with it. ipod mini's dont come with the wall adapter

yeah i do agree that apple is skimping on the packaging. but price-wise it's not that much of a difference. but i still don't understand why people would say ipod's are overpriced- every major hard drive-based mp3 players are expensive... unless you want to trust rio or archos or dell.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

For some reason people gloss over their own lack of objectivity.

In your case you care about interchangability and features, which is fine. YOu said you do not need a lot of storage, which is fine.

That said, people like me liek to have msot of their library with them and like to have them all acessible.


We are different, but that simply shows that these products appeal to different audiences, and aren't necessarily better than each other.

 

[Gurck]

Advertising on TV, especially during sports playoffs, is expensive. It can cost tens of millions for a 30 secons spot. This is why the ipod is more expensive than other players despite being lower in quality and having fewer features, though most ipod fans are still too young to fully understand the basic rules of business & money, and will actually deny that this factors into price Apple has decided - and quite correctly - that advertising > substance; that the average consumer, especially the younger demographic, buys what commercials tell them to rather than doing research.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

you can easily buy a rio forge and a 1gig SD card and that would be much cheaper than an iriver, plus the on-board memory, the FM tuner, and the size... that would make the rio a better buy then. iriver's are overpriced.

Exactly! I have neither an iPod or an iRiver. I have an Ultra with a 512MB SD card so I know what you're talking about. But I'm not talking about an Ultra or Rio. I'm talking about an iRiver and iPod and you said, "each of them have pros and cons so what's the difference." I gave you the differences of THOSE TWO. IMHO, you can do much better than EITHER if you're willing to shop around and have a firm grasp on what kind of features YOU WANT.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Advertising on TV, especially during sports playoffs, is expensive. It can cost tens of millions for a 30 secons spot. This is why the ipod is more expensive than other players despite being lower in quality and having fewer features, though most ipod fans are still too young to fully understand the basic rules of business & money, and will actually deny that this factors into price Apple has decided - and quite correctly - that advertising > substance; that the average consumer, especially the younger demographic, buys what commercials tell them to rather than doing research.

Dear lord......

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

For some reason people gloss over their own lack of objectivity.

In your case you care about interchangability and features, which is fine. YOu said you do not need a lot of storage, which is fine.

That said, people like me liek to have msot of their library with them and like to have them all acessible.


We are different, but that simply shows that these products appeal to different audiences, and aren't necessarily better than each other.

Absolutely. My disclaimer is the ol' fasion "IMHO."

I have far too many MP3's over far too many genres to EVER want to put all on one MP3 player at one time. I'm sure there's a plethora of people on the opposite side of that spectrum that would LOVE to put their entire CD collection on one single iPod.

It's all a perception of value. MY perception of value does not see an iPod as valuable.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't understand why would people crap on anything that apple makes, while the iriver is the same price (if not more expensive in some cases).

each of them has pro's and con's... it's like a poll of WD/maxtor/seagate. they are all pretty much the same.

Not true. You can buy an iRiver that does what an iPod does AND MUCH MORE for half the price. The difference? The capacity. But capacity is relative. I switch around what I have on my player so much.... I don't WANT more than a few gig of capacity. The more expensive iRivers give you features that iPods will NEVER have (camera? WTF!??! Color display?!! WHY?!?!) and most people could care less about.

iRiver is the clear winner between the two IMHO.

For some reason people gloss over their own lack of objectivity.

In your case you care about interchangability and features, which is fine. YOu said you do not need a lot of storage, which is fine.

That said, people like me liek to have msot of their library with them and like to have them all acessible.


We are different, but that simply shows that these products appeal to different audiences, and aren't necessarily better than each other.

Absolutely. My disclaimer is the ol' fasion "IMHO."

I have far too many MP3's over far too many genres to EVER want to put all on one MP3 player at one time. I'm sure there's a plethora of people on the opposite side of that spectrum that would LOVE to put their entire CD collection on one single iPod.

It's all a perception of value. MY perception of value does not see an iPod as valuable.

And that is FINE. EJOY IT


<---looks at GURCK WITH A STERN EXPRESSION:|

 

[thraashman]

Well, seeing as I sell iPods on a daily basis as well as several other MP3 players (iRiver, Zen Micro, Samsung, Rio), I cannot in good conscience put my vote for the iPod. The thing is a piece of junk. Sure it doesn't really sound any worse than the others, but the things aren't reliable. I get so many of them back defective it sickens me. So far I have to say that I like the Creative Zen Micro and teh iRiver the most of the ones I've played with.

And seriously, I get sick of teenagers who actually base what MP3 player they get on the fact that it comes in blue or pink.

 

[neutralizer]

Nothing beats the beauty of the ipod, however, I hate how many times it crashes and how it takes like a minute to start off when you haven't used it for a while (like a day).

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
<---looks at GURCK WITH A STERN EXPRESSION:|

<---whimpers pitifully, unable to speak because of the ball-gag

 

[cmdavid]

i just got a 1GB Creative MuVo N200 today for about $115.. the thing is tiny and i absolutely love it so far..

 

[VTBigBear]

iriver plz

 

[BatmanNate]

My girl has the iRiver H320, and it's a smooth operator. I "upgraded" to the Korean firmware, and now it can play xvid & divx, full colour, 10fps. Very cool.