Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says

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moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: moshquerade
nice try what? your blogger site wants to discredit this guy?

Nice job attack the source, not the information. :roll:
as if conjur wouldn't have done the same :laugh:

conjur's source says and he bolded it: "Sada is basing his statement on un-named pilots who allegedly flew these two airplanes in 2002. And you can be sure he will never name them. It's the allegation that's the thing."

Sada says in the NYSun: ""I know them very well. They are very good friends of mine. We trust each other. We are friends as pilots," Mr. Sada said of the two pilots. He declined to disclose their names, saying they are concerned for their safety. But he said they are now employed by other airlines outside Iraq."

see how conjur's blog site is trying to slant things? obviously Sada is not going to name the pilots involved for safety reasons. he has expressed a fear for his life and his family's lives too due to release of this information.

Be sure and repost once this has some legs. Until them, it's a non-story.
i wouldn't call it a non-story as it stands right now, but i will be sure to update this thread if more info becomes available relevant to the topic.

Sure it is. This theory is so weak. You really think the satellites wouldn't have picked up huge convoys of trucks moving into Syria? You don't think that of all the thousands of soldiers that it would have taken for this to happen, that not one of them came forward? You think of all the people who are detained, not a single one of them broke down under interrogation (and you would bet that they would have been heavily 'interrogated') and gave even a hint of this?

Now the question is, why do you feel the need to grasp at even the weakest of straws?
how weak is the story if it compelled you to respond?

it is an established fact that Saddam Hussein's regime did indeed possess ample stores of WMDs in the 1990s. and it is well known that he refused, repeatedly, to document the disposal of those weapons, or to otherwise account for them.

it was thus logical to decide that if Saddam was known to have the weapons, and if he refused to account for them, he likely still possessed them or had access to them.

am i wrong to think this?

if not, then it is also not wrong to think these weapons had to be moved somewhere.

Why go with a theory that is so far fetched and unsubstantiated? Do you realize how difficult it would be to move tons of chemical weapons without the satellites picking up? Or that all the people who would actually be involved in that, and not a single person was able to substantiate it, under coercion or not?

There's a lot of other theories that are much simpler and more likely: he lost all his stockpiles during the first Gulf war from all the air and missile attacks... or that he lied about the amount of WMD he had to make himself appear stronger than he actually was. So you go with a theory from som
i will repeat myself once again, because for some reason you aren't getting it. i am not buying this "theory" 100%, but approaching it with an open mind.

obviously, American officials or anyone would be foolhardy to accept Mr. Sada's claims without question. but on an issue so important, it would be even more foolish not to pursue this Iraqi's story down to the very last detail. if it's true, it's the biggest story of the new year, and it might have world-changing consequences for the better.

that's why it's great news to see in the Sun that Alabama's own Jeff Sessions is one of the first two senators who has scheduled a meeting with Mr. Sada. (Their meeting was yesterday i believe.) this doesn't mean Sen. Sessions is buying into the story, but it means he has an open mind.


 

arsbanned

Banned
Dec 12, 2003
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: moshquerade
nice try what? your blogger site wants to discredit this guy?

Nice job attack the source, not the information. :roll:
as if conjur wouldn't have done the same :laugh:

conjur's source says and he bolded it: "Sada is basing his statement on un-named pilots who allegedly flew these two airplanes in 2002. And you can be sure he will never name them. It's the allegation that's the thing."

Sada says in the NYSun: ""I know them very well. They are very good friends of mine. We trust each other. We are friends as pilots," Mr. Sada said of the two pilots. He declined to disclose their names, saying they are concerned for their safety. But he said they are now employed by other airlines outside Iraq."

see how conjur's blog site is trying to slant things? obviously Sada is not going to name the pilots involved for safety reasons. he has expressed a fear for his life and his family's lives too due to release of this information.

Be sure and repost once this has some legs. Until them, it's a non-story.
i wouldn't call it a non-story as it stands right now, but i will be sure to update this thread if more info becomes available relevant to the topic.

Sure it is. This theory is so weak. You really think the satellites wouldn't have picked up huge convoys of trucks moving into Syria? You don't think that of all the thousands of soldiers that it would have taken for this to happen, that not one of them came forward? You think of all the people who are detained, not a single one of them broke down under interrogation (and you would bet that they would have been heavily 'interrogated') and gave even a hint of this?

Now the question is, why do you feel the need to grasp at even the weakest of straws?
how weak is the story if it compelled you to respond?

it is an established fact that Saddam Hussein's regime did indeed possess ample stores of WMDs in the 1990s. and it is well known that he refused, repeatedly, to document the disposal of those weapons, or to otherwise account for them.

it was thus logical to decide that if Saddam was known to have the weapons, and if he refused to account for them, he likely still possessed them or had access to them.

am i wrong to think this?

if not, then it is also not wrong to think these weapons had to be moved somewhere.

There are no WMD. Several reports from numerous non-partisan sources have confirmed this again and again. And yet we still have people scrambling to change the record. Get over it. Go back to "well, someone had to help those poor Iraqis!" I believe that's the talking point du jour. :roll:
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: moshquerade
nice try what? your blogger site wants to discredit this guy?

Nice job attack the source, not the information. :roll:
as if conjur wouldn't have done the same :laugh:

conjur's source says and he bolded it: "Sada is basing his statement on un-named pilots who allegedly flew these two airplanes in 2002. And you can be sure he will never name them. It's the allegation that's the thing."

Sada says in the NYSun: ""I know them very well. They are very good friends of mine. We trust each other. We are friends as pilots," Mr. Sada said of the two pilots. He declined to disclose their names, saying they are concerned for their safety. But he said they are now employed by other airlines outside Iraq."

see how conjur's blog site is trying to slant things? obviously Sada is not going to name the pilots involved for safety reasons. he has expressed a fear for his life and his family's lives too due to release of this information.

Be sure and repost once this has some legs. Until them, it's a non-story.
i wouldn't call it a non-story as it stands right now, but i will be sure to update this thread if more info becomes available relevant to the topic.

Sure it is. This theory is so weak. You really think the satellites wouldn't have picked up huge convoys of trucks moving into Syria? You don't think that of all the thousands of soldiers that it would have taken for this to happen, that not one of them came forward? You think of all the people who are detained, not a single one of them broke down under interrogation (and you would bet that they would have been heavily 'interrogated') and gave even a hint of this?

Now the question is, why do you feel the need to grasp at even the weakest of straws?
how weak is the story if it compelled you to respond?

it is an established fact that Saddam Hussein's regime did indeed possess ample stores of WMDs in the 1990s. and it is well known that he refused, repeatedly, to document the disposal of those weapons, or to otherwise account for them.

it was thus logical to decide that if Saddam was known to have the weapons, and if he refused to account for them, he likely still possessed them or had access to them.

am i wrong to think this?

if not, then it is also not wrong to think these weapons had to be moved somewhere.

There are no WMD. Several reports from numerous non-partisan sources have confirmed this again and again. And yet we still have people scrambling to change the record. Get over it. Go back to "well, someone had to help those poor Iraqis!" I believe that's the talking point du jour. :roll:

one can only hope that unlike yours most other minds remain open.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Yeh, right, moshquerade- keep an open mind. With regard to Iraqi wmd's, and their alleged existence, that's like a Texas death row inmate's chances of a pardon- the chances of a snowball in Hell...

Time to face the truth- you've been had- suckered, chumped, bamboozled and hornswaggled, yet you still believe... hopelessly and desperately that our current leadership is something other than liars, cheats, thieves and charlatans....
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, moshquerade- keep an open mind. With regard to Iraqi wmd's, and their alleged existence, that's like a Texas death row inmate's chances of a pardon- the chances of a snowball in Hell...

Time to face the truth- you've been had- suckered, chumped, bamboozled and hornswaggled, yet you still believe... hopelessly and desperately that our current leadership is something other than liars, cheats, thieves and charlatans....
just our current leadership? :laugh:

 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, moshquerade- keep an open mind. With regard to Iraqi wmd's, and their alleged existence, that's like a Texas death row inmate's chances of a pardon- the chances of a snowball in Hell...

Time to face the truth- you've been had- suckered, chumped, bamboozled and hornswaggled, yet you still believe... hopelessly and desperately that our current leadership is something other than liars, cheats, thieves and charlatans....
just our current leadership? :laugh:

Yes, they're either morons or liars. Take your pick.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

LunarRay

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2003
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, moshquerade- keep an open mind. With regard to Iraqi wmd's, and their alleged existence, that's like a Texas death row inmate's chances of a pardon- the chances of a snowball in Hell...

Time to face the truth- you've been had- suckered, chumped, bamboozled and hornswaggled, yet you still believe... hopelessly and desperately that our current leadership is something other than liars, cheats, thieves and charlatans....
just our current leadership? :laugh:

Yes, they're either morons or liars. Take your pick.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Well.... IF the Bush Administration invaded under a lie then it (at least those involved) is guilty at least three crimes. We forget so quickly .... Had WMD, Had the Delivery Systems AND intended to use them in short order... in a few days as it was explained.... We not only have not found the WMD but neither have we found the Delivery Systems NOR any indication that he intended to launch in a week or so.... which was the exigent circumstance for immediate action... remember us saying we can't wait...
Good grief.... Nothing has been said in months about these issues.. and if the UN allowed this to seep under the carpet.. IT was still a crime when it occured... (if it occurred) and we've not even had the guts to really set up a sub committee to start impeachment hearings.. apathy is what they counted on and it is exactly what they got... bravo.. I am impressed with this Administration... they really know how to get done what they feel needs doing.. and I applaud that..