Just a reminder for anyone interested, supposed to start soon.
This thread is not for political discussion, that belongs in P&N.
This thread is not for political discussion, that belongs in P&N.
Iranian President's speech in a few minutes
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Translation: America and their Zionist partners in Isreal are Evil. DIE!!! POPE MUST DIE!! EVERYBODY DIE!!! PRAISE ALLAH!!!!
Although they think it's soon, I'm betting he will try to make the speech closer to prime time in the U.S. I think 8 or 8:30 est., this guy knows the power of the media and how to use it. Some other guy appears to be speaking still as well.
guess I was wrong, here he comes.
guess I was wrong, here he comes.
what politician in the US chants "death to [insert country]" and "[insert country] should be wiped off the map" and "holocaust is a jew myth"?
If you want to get technical about it, fine.
He sounded just like any other politician for a brief time.Although he is clearly off his rocker, he does manage to make a point or two. (Then he promptly goes spewing all sorts of crazy stuff again.)
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Good speech so far. Yes, there are derivative parts, but if Bush's typical "terrar freedum" speeches are a 5/10, this one is at least an 8/10.
Funny how the President of Iran has more substance and logic in his speeches than the President of the USA. How far we have fallen. Even if we compare the two speakers on speech structure alone, the President of Iran still comes out far ahead.
Funny how the President of Iran has more substance and logic in his speeches than the President of the USA. How far we have fallen. Even if we compare the two speakers on speech structure alone, the President of Iran still comes out far ahead.
Oh yeah, he shows great intellect, logic, and substance (just ignore the "death to Israel cuz they suckorz" and "we want to WIPE people off the face of the earth" stuff).
Seriously, a genocidal maniac is definitely a better leader with a stronger moral compass and ability to facillitate peace in the world than GWB, simply because he doesn't stumble as much in his speeches.
No idea about this current speech, I'm not near a TV. Its the content of practically every speech he gives....who cares if he gives a good dog-and-pony show for the UN?
Ok sweetie, lets dance.
Link to excerpts from speech
Lots of logic to be demonstrated here. The US takes out genocidal dictator (Saddam vs Kurds) with a history of invading other countries (Kuwait), but Iran threatens to wipe out Israel frequently, and positions itself against the war on terror....but somehow we're the war mongering people throwing the world off balance?
Lots of well-thought-out substance here. The US Gov't isn't the one rejecting a central component of WWII, Hitler's genocide of the Jews. Who's stuck in post-WWII thinking here?
The US Gov't isn't, it is against extremist, violent governments. Bush JUST spoke, saying the war wasn't against Islam or the people...it was against terrorism and organizations/gov'ts that support it.
More well thought out substance and logic. I guess Jews aren't people?
Ahmadinejad is a maniac....but at least he has plenty of logic and substance. I'm so glad we cleared that up.
Because when we do it, it's called liberation. We definitely don't have alterior motives (revenge, oil supply, etc), because that would be a little too close to conquest, now wouldn't it? We do it all out of the pure goodness of our hearts.
It's a good thing we don't interpret the geneva convention as we please, and exploit loopholes based upon semantics that go against it's general essence.
Firing guided missles at people from 10000 feet is SO much better than guiding explosives manually with a steering wheel.
We would never do that!
We don't need logic. Our president gets his instructions directly from god. We're lucky that our god is the right god, because even though they do essentially the same thing, we're right.
/end sarcasm
Seriously, you are brainwashed. Very effectively. You no longer see them as fellow human beings, with the same wants, needs and desires as you have. It's us against "them".
And that is the root cause of all of this.
"They" want to live their life, their way. So do we. And unfortunately, those two ways of life are partially mutually exclusive. We encroach upon their way of life necessarily by our need for their oil, and the need to protect israel, which is situated in the most strategic position in possibly all of the persian gulf.
The only difference is that we have big bombs, and they have little bombs. We can demolish them from the sky - the only reason they dont, is because they cant. They attack us in the best way they can - to terrorize us. And unfortunately, it works. And they want the big bombs too, so we can't terrorize them anymore. Their motives are essentially the same as ours.
By all means, don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the home team, but I'm not deluded enough to think I'm the good guy, and theyre the bad guy. I can sleep at night knowing that my way of life is at the expense of theirs. Because I like my way of life. If they had the big bombs, and the tables were turned, I'd feel exactly as they do. I don't need infantile delusions of moral superiority in order to get through the day.
Their tactics have failed on me. I'm not scared of them. I don't believe they are our enemy, and I haved lived through several bombings of my own home city. At the end of the day, I'm more afraid of getting shot by some gangsta, than by terrorists blowing something up.
But you, you are afraid. You are terrorized. They've convinced you that they need to be destroyed. That is their greatest power. The kind of power that leads us to do reckless things, like the current war.
"We don't agree with killing people" yet they campaign for the absolute destruction and wiping Israel and its people off the map. What about that isn't in the realm of a genocidal, maniac, lunatic, choose whatever word you want? Fine, I'll pick another one....evil.
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