I mean so what if Iran has nukes, did they specifically say they will nuke America as soon as they get em? Others countries have nukes but you are not flipping out about it...why Iran?
People flip out over North Korea. Both Iran and North Korea don't exactly have positive relations with the US.
Iran has the right to go nuclear just like countries have the right to attempt to prevent them.
LOL, please don't say anything about generalizations, you are the king of generalizations.
Now imagine this: Iran develops a nuclear program and later on develops nuclear weapons. The conservative leadership in the country begins to see eroding support and efforts are made to liberalize to modern 18th century European values such as basic human rights and women?s rights. A small minority of hard liners with extremist views overthrow the government (much like the did to the Shah of Iran) in a bloody coupe, imposing immediate and brutal Muslim law upon the entire population. The US, rightly so, opposes this regime and threatens them with force. Don't you think an unstable country like Iran would have us a wee bit worried that their leaders wouldn't go through the same due diligence that we would when it comes to nuclear weapons? Especially if they espouse the same values and hate that some of the terrorists held when killing innocent civilians through acts of extreme terror?
Well I disagree. I don't think many nations would be able to convince others to go to war over a lie. The US certainly has less positive relations recently, but it's still more than others.
People oppose Iran having nuclear weapons just like people oppose the US building a national missile defense program.
That scenario can happen in ANY country with nukes.
''LOL, please don't say anything about generalizations, you are the king of generalizations. ''
Links?
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Ya...some American friends of mine recommended to me because of how stupid and innacruate it is, to watch it as a joke. But don't listen to them though, they didn't vote for Bush, what would they know right?
Did I forget to mention it shows on ''Fox''
'Over There' shows on F/X, which is owned by FOX. However, F/X is a network with critically acclaimed shows. But 'Over There' really isn't that great. While they showed this 'backwards village' (as they called the location) scene, they have also had scenes that painted the US military in a bad light. However, I suppose it's easier for some people to ignore that.
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In regards to the subject of this thread, obviously Iran should do whatever is in its best interests. In addition, the US should do whatever is in its best interests. Every country should be prepared for the consequences of their own actions on the global stage.
Iran ideally should develop their own nuclear arms, just as the US should ideally (in their case) prevent Iran from developing nuclear arms.
Personally, I'm a little unsettled if religious nutjobs could have unrestricted access to nuclear weapons.
Iran ideally should develop their own nuclear arms, just as the US should ideally (in their case) prevent Iran from developing nuclear arms.
Personally, I'm a little unsettled if religious nutjobs could have unrestricted access to nuclear weapons.
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The Bush administration has fostered bad relations with both countries, and more, since it took office. Also, let's not forget the "Axis of Evil" speech.
That simply is not true. There is no sovereign "right" to interfere in the internal workings of another nation. That we constantly attempt to doesn't make it right, or lawful.
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It's easy to paint what-if scenarios, but acting on them is a different story altogether. It's also dangerous and self-serving when the dreamer (in this case the fed) thinks of himself as almost godlike in faculty and intentions. We've been spun into way too many nightmares this way. It's a wonder that we haven't learned better.
No, they're guilty because they have horrendous laws and basic conditions of human rights and are run a horrible religious government. Read the news if you are so uninformed.
You have the burden of proof, and who are you to judge? Maybe they like it the way it is, ever consider that or does everyone have to have it your way?
Of course, I've already stated that they have hurt diplomatic relations with many countries.
I disagree.
People interfere with internal workings of another nation all the time. Look at NMD, Kyoto, ICC, genocides, etc. You are naive beyond belief. It may not be "right" but it happens and anyone can do it.
LOL - is this what people would use to support conditions of slavery, too? 'They like it that way!'
Sorry, but there are basic conditions of human rights that should be followed by everyone. Some conditions may make it less clear, but they usually apply in 99% of the case. I have no problem criticizing those that do not follow basic human decency.
He wasn't saying that it was wrong, he was saying that it is wrong and shouldn't happen. Your post agrees with him.
Reading comprehension?
I don't agree with him. For example, I think that nations have the right to stop genocides inside a country.
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