Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Iran is a soveriegn nation that has every right to pursue whatever the fvck national agenda they have. Nuclear power? Fine. Nuclear weapons? Not preferred, but we still can't do a bum fvcking thing about it. Sanctions? So what, they lived with sanctions for decades.
Everyone here is too dense to realize no government in the world would openly engage the US in military combat. Nuclear weapons or not, no country in the world is that stupid.
So nations like Iran and North Korea are not the real threat to the US. They will not commit suicide by attacking the US.
The real threat are the terrorists who live without a country, without a government, and have the capability to smuggle a foriegn nuke onto our soil. Hypothetically, if a terrorist smuggles a nuke using a German container ship, does that mean Germany is trying to start a war? Nope. Just means that a terrorist lived in Germany.
If I wanted to attack the US with a nuclear weapon, I would do it by proxy, not directly.
Nuclear proliferation = bad.
You think it's getting bad after 9/11? Just wait till the nuke goes off, and it won't matter who did it, because they aren't going to take DNA samples or fingerprints off of nuclear dust.
Americans will be screaming at the top of their lungs for revenge, and they will get it. In spades. If it takes a billion lives, they will get it.
That is where you are dead wrong.
American's are very ignorant in this regard. They think that the nuclear stockpile exists to bomb other nations "into the stone age". It is quite embarrassing that you and rahvin know so little about how international politics work.
The US will never use nuclear weapons on a soveriegn nation unless they can prove that this nation directly attacked or aided in the attack of the United States AND that nation still poses a grave threat to the United States AND that nation cannot be defeated in a swift manner through the use of traditional non-nuclear weapons.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a unique situation. The US knew that the civilian population was largely ready to resist and die fighting a US invasion. Had we invaded without using nuclear weapons, those hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians would have died by our traditional bombs and bullets.
Fast forward to 2005. Our nation has military superiority over any country in the world. While we would obviously need the option of nuclear weapons when fighting a war with a nuclear nation, we don't need that option when fighting most others, including Iran.
Nuclear weapons do not exist for lopsided military conflicts. They are largely designed for destroying large population centers and infrastructure. If attacked by Iran, we would probably use a small nuke to destroy their underground nuclear weapons facilities, but we would gain nothing by bombing a civilian target like Tehran.
It's just so annoying that in EVERY SINGLE thread about nuclear weapons, you idiots chime in about nuking the middle east, killing billions of civilians, cowboy style justice, etc. You only prove your cluelessness with such comments.
Anyways, Iran can build whatever the hell they want. They are not bound by any UN treaties or resolutions. We cannot attack unless attacked.
And they have no confirmed nuclear weapons. If they want to build them, they can. If they don't want to, they won't. But every industrialized nation will build nuclear power facilities this century, whether we help them or not. Iran has every right and I hope they exercise it to the fullest.
The US needs to shut the fvck up before it gets embarrassed on the world stage. Oh wait, too late, this country is already a joke all around the world.
To quote Bill Maher: "I'm Swiss".
Washington has indeed made nuclear munnitions the commodity of choice for smart countries. I don't agree that every nation that wants nuclear technology, and all the benefits that come along with it, are bent on producing nuclear weapons, though. The IAEA reports on Iran, as well as the additional protocols Iran has signed, indicate that the Iranians want nothing more than their soveriegn right to pursue technology as THEY see fit. This doesn't bother me one bit, because I want the US to have the same rights.
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