Iran is trying to spark something off...

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Bush's veto power can be overridden by Congress. It's a control mechanism and it's not the final say.

So because there is a different form of government, Iran is bad? Nice move from "Muslim theocracy" to this... :roll:

If the Catholic bishop in the US had the last say over public law and policy, would you consider that good?

You're going off again on another one of your "defend Muslims at all cost" tirades. Lord forbid anyone should ever criticize it in front of you. :roll:

 

[Genx87]

Sounds to me if you are running for a govt seat upto the president it doesnt serve a purpose at all.
Same goes for Stalin, Kim Jong, and Saddam.

Who cares if you were the 2nd best in the regimes mentioned when the #1 spot trumps all?

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Were they running for the mullahs spot?

the mullahs are not elected. the authorities such as the guardians council, are appointed. But the Supreme Court Justices in America are appointed as well. The difference between American officials and Iranian officials, is that the Iranians wear their religion on their shoulders, and don't hide it. They don't hide the fact that their beliefs are firmly based on islamic law, even if they are living 500yrs behind everyone else. There's a huge gap of misunderstanding between many cultures in this world. It's a hard bridge to gap sometimes

 

[Genx87]

the mullahs are not elected.

That is basically my point.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Bush's veto power can be overridden by Congress. It's a control mechanism and it's not the final say.

So because there is a different form of government, Iran is bad? Nice move from "Muslim theocracy" to this... :roll:

If the Catholic bishop in the US had the last say over public law and policy, would you consider that good?

You're going off again on another one of your "defend Muslims at all cost" tirades. Lord forbid anyone should ever criticize it in front of you. :roll:

I think you are not knowledgable about Islam. A good practicing Muslim is referred to as a Mullah. There is no designation such as Cardinal, Bishop, Pope, etc. The US is apparently headed by a "good" practicing Chrisitan. Does that mean the US is under Christian theocracy? Continue living in hate and fear You're the one who brought "Muslims" into a thread about a nations and its missile capabilities

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Bush's veto power can be overridden by Congress. It's a control mechanism and it's not the final say.

So because there is a different form of government, Iran is bad? Nice move from "Muslim theocracy" to this... :roll:

If the Catholic bishop in the US had the last say over public law and policy, would you consider that good?

You're going off again on another one of your "defend Muslims at all cost" tirades. Lord forbid anyone should ever criticize it in front of you. :roll:

I think you are not knowledgable about Islam. A good practicing Muslim is referred to as a Mullah.

except women.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Genx87
Were they running for the mullahs spot?

the mullahs are not elected. the authorities such as the guardians council, are appointed. But the Supreme Court Justices in America are appointed as well. The difference between American officials and Iranian officials, is that the Iranians wear their religion on their shoulders, and don't hide it. They don't hide the fact that their beliefs are firmly based on islamic law, even if they are living 500yrs behind everyone else. There's a huge gap of misunderstanding between many cultures in this world. It's a hard bridge to gap sometimes

Just a correction... while the beliefs are based on Islamic laws, the gaurdian council works on precedents, same as the American jurisprudence. The precedents can be 10000 years old or 10 years old, depending on the scenario. To claim it is 500 years old is incorrect.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Bush's veto power can be overridden by Congress. It's a control mechanism and it's not the final say.

So because there is a different form of government, Iran is bad? Nice move from "Muslim theocracy" to this... :roll:

If the Catholic bishop in the US had the last say over public law and policy, would you consider that good?

You're going off again on another one of your "defend Muslims at all cost" tirades. Lord forbid anyone should ever criticize it in front of you. :roll:

I think you are not knowledgable about Islam. A good practicing Muslim is referred to as a Mullah.

except women.

I forgot the word for the female gender of Mullah, but I assure you, there is one.

 

[Aimster]

Stop defending the government of Iran. Even Iranians speak out against such a government. You continue to agree with any government that has Islamic Law.
You do not force a religion on people.

I do not need to be in Iran to know people in Iran do not follow "their" religion. I have family there and they have friends and my girlfriend's family is there. Look at the Iranians in the U.S. You will hardly see any of them practicing Islam at all. Majority of Iranians live in CA. I don't ever think I've seen any Iranian women with a scarf on at any of the Iranian gatherings.

Obviously Iranians do not want Mullahs running their life. There are constant protest. Talk of a regime change.

My mom was raised in Iran. She never touched a Quran in her life. Same with her parents. Now you have these wackos forcing it on people. Thus you now have a bunch of people who don't like the religion because they are not free to make up their own mind.

Look back before Khormeni was in power. How many women did you see in the street covered up? HARDLY ANY.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Iran is a Muslim theocracy. The two are intertwined so it's bound to come up, and did.

Iran is a parlimentary democracy. Would you please stop spreading lies? They held elections just this year.

Nice election. Many people were not allowed to run because they would win and they are against the Mullahs. Nice way to run a country.

emm, over 5500 candidates ran out of 7500 that filed papers. Thats pretty good considering we Americans only had a choice between Bush or Kerry.

They have no power. The head Mullah has the final say. Those elections are worthless if the head can strike down whatever he wants. Even if 100% of them agree on something the head Mullah can say too bad.
those 2,000 that didn't run were part of the reform party and many of them were up for reelection. INCLUDING the President's own brother!!!!

so freaking what? The US President has the Veto power. He has the final say. Are you saying American elections are worthless? Continue living in hate and fear dude.

He doesn't have the 'final say' in every matter.

How clueless can you get...I suppose this should be expected.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop defending the government of Iran. Even Iranians speak out against such a government. You continue to agree with any government that has Islamic Law.
You do not force a religion on people.

I do not need to be in Iran to know people in Iran do not follow "their" religion. I have family there and they have friends and my girlfriend's family is there. Look at the Iranians in the U.S. You will hardly see any of them practicing Islam at all. Majority of Iranians live in CA. I don't ever think I've seen any Iranian women with a scarf on at any of the Iranian gatherings.

Obviously Iranians do not want Mullahs running their life. There are constant protest. Talk of a regime change.

My mom was raised in Iran. She never touched a Quran in her life. Same with her parents. Now you have these wackos forcing it on people. Thus you now have a bunch of people who don't like the religion because they are not free to make up their own mind.

Look back before Khormeni was in power. How many women did you see in the street covered up? HARDLY ANY.

Basically, the gist of this post is you, your family, and your girlfriend's family are horrible Muslims?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Iran is a Muslim theocracy. The two are intertwined so it's bound to come up, and did.

Iran is a parlimentary democracy. Would you please stop spreading lies? They held elections just this year.

Nice election. Many people were not allowed to run because they would win and they are against the Mullahs. Nice way to run a country.

emm, over 5500 candidates ran out of 7500 that filed papers. Thats pretty good considering we Americans only had a choice between Bush or Kerry.

They have no power. The head Mullah has the final say. Those elections are worthless if the head can strike down whatever he wants. Even if 100% of them agree on something the head Mullah can say too bad.
those 2,000 that didn't run were part of the reform party and many of them were up for reelection. INCLUDING the President's own brother!!!!

so freaking what? The US President has the Veto power. He has the final say. Are you saying American elections are worthless? Continue living in hate and fear dude.

It goes back and they try again if he vetos it. This Mullah doesn't run for reelection. He is there for life. We elected the President.

And the US President can veto it again. I keep giving you valid arguments but you're stuck with Iran bad, America good. Keep living in hatred and fear.

Idiotic. The presidential veto can be overturned.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Bush's veto power can be overridden by Congress. It's a control mechanism and it's not the final say.

So because there is a different form of government, Iran is bad? Nice move from "Muslim theocracy" to this... :roll:

HAHAHAHAHA!

You lost an argument and now you spout your idiotic extremism again.

 

[Genx87]

Basically, the gist of this post is you, your family, and your girlfriend's family are horrible Muslims?

According to the wackjob mullahs running Iran yes. That is probably his point.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop defending the government of Iran. Even Iranians speak out against such a government. You continue to agree with any government that has Islamic Law.
You do not force a religion on people.

I do not need to be in Iran to know people in Iran do not follow "their" religion. I have family there and they have friends and my girlfriend's family is there. Look at the Iranians in the U.S. You will hardly see any of them practicing Islam at all. Majority of Iranians live in CA. I don't ever think I've seen any Iranian women with a scarf on at any of the Iranian gatherings.

Obviously Iranians do not want Mullahs running their life. There are constant protest. Talk of a regime change.

My mom was raised in Iran. She never touched a Quran in her life. Same with her parents. Now you have these wackos forcing it on people. Thus you now have a bunch of people who don't like the religion because they are not free to make up their own mind.

Look back before Khormeni was in power. How many women did you see in the street covered up? HARDLY ANY.

Basically, the gist of this post is you, your family, and your girlfriend's family are horrible Muslims?

My version of Islam is 10000x better than your poop version if Islam that is destroying the world.

I never thought anyone could be worse than an Iranian Mullah. But I was wrong. You're more extreme than the psychos running Iran.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop defending the government of Iran. Even Iranians speak out against such a government. You continue to agree with any government that has Islamic Law.
You do not force a religion on people.

I do not need to be in Iran to know people in Iran do not follow "their" religion. I have family there and they have friends and my girlfriend's family is there. Look at the Iranians in the U.S. You will hardly see any of them practicing Islam at all. Majority of Iranians live in CA. I don't ever think I've seen any Iranian women with a scarf on at any of the Iranian gatherings.

Obviously Iranians do not want Mullahs running their life. There are constant protest. Talk of a regime change.

My mom was raised in Iran. She never touched a Quran in her life. Same with her parents. Now you have these wackos forcing it on people. Thus you now have a bunch of people who don't like the religion because they are not free to make up their own mind.

Look back before Khormeni was in power. How many women did you see in the street covered up? HARDLY ANY.

Basically, the gist of this post is you, your family, and your girlfriend's family are horrible Muslims?

My version of Islam is 10000x better than your poop version if Islam that is destroying the world.

:thumbsup:

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop defending the government of Iran. Even Iranians speak out against such a government. You continue to agree with any government that has Islamic Law.
You do not force a religion on people.

I do not need to be in Iran to know people in Iran do not follow "their" religion. I have family there and they have friends and my girlfriend's family is there. Look at the Iranians in the U.S. You will hardly see any of them practicing Islam at all. Majority of Iranians live in CA. I don't ever think I've seen any Iranian women with a scarf on at any of the Iranian gatherings.

Obviously Iranians do not want Mullahs running their life. There are constant protest. Talk of a regime change.

My mom was raised in Iran. She never touched a Quran in her life. Same with her parents. Now you have these wackos forcing it on people. Thus you now have a bunch of people who don't like the religion because they are not free to make up their own mind.

Look back before Khormeni was in power. How many women did you see in the street covered up? HARDLY ANY.

Basically, the gist of this post is you, your family, and your girlfriend's family are horrible Muslims?

My version of Islam is 10000x better than your poop version if Islam that is destroying the world.

I never thought anyone could be worse than an Iranian Mullah. But I was wrong. You're more extreme than the psychos running Iran.

what verson would that be, when your mother hasnt even TOUCHED the Quran, the first source of Islamic Law?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Bush's veto power can be overridden by Congress. It's a control mechanism and it's not the final say.

So because there is a different form of government, Iran is bad? Nice move from "Muslim theocracy" to this... :roll:

If the Catholic bishop in the US had the last say over public law and policy, would you consider that good?

You're going off again on another one of your "defend Muslims at all cost" tirades. Lord forbid anyone should ever criticize it in front of you. :roll:

You have to understand that a non-Muslim religious leader = bad, but a Muslim religious leader = good for him.

I cannot even imagine what would happen if someone criticized anything related to Islam in front of Sultan...this is a guy that justifies the beheading of people, compares Saudi Arabia's human rights violations to Canada's, attempts to justify slavery well into the middle of this century by Saudi Arabia, the outright murder of children, the discrimination of non-Muslims, etc...all I can guess is that it will probably end up with him getting violent.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Actually, from a historical perspective, there isn't really a single true Islamic government in place.

Under the Prophet (PBUH), women were involved in many parts of the government, and the head merchant of the time was a woman. When the Prophet (PBUH) died, there were elections to determine who would suceed him. The Qu'ran itself extols the equality of men and women in both faith and society.

The phenomenon of disenfranchisement of women in Islamic countries is and should be classified as a cultural backlash against Western ideals; ideals that were formed in part to interactions from across the world. When I read the Qu'ran, I see nothing that says men and women are anything but equal.

 

[Sultan]

hey look, Rabid's on my coat tails again i'll leave you the crumbs dude, dont you worry

 

[RabidMongoose]

Awww, poor Sultan is spewing his hatred and bigotry again.

Hey, do you still believe that the phrase 'orange bicycles' means that all oranges are bicycles?

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Awww, poor Sultan is spewing his hatred and bigotry again.

Hey, do you still believe that the phrase 'orange bicycles' means that all oranges are bicycles?

awww, poor Rabid has no life but to follow my footsteps on AT P&N forums.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Yup, still thinks that the phrase 'orange bicycle' says that oranges are bicycles.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Yup, still thinks that the phrase 'orange bicycle' says that oranges are bicycles.

:thumbsup:

 

[RabidMongoose]

How sad...the extremism has rotted his brain.