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Aimster

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I really couldn't care less.

First threat makes them a hole in the ground so for their own sake i hope they know better.

problem with this idea is that, 1 nuke over israel, and it is destroyed. one bomb. thats one slip or error in the Israel passive defense.

they have been past the first threat. they have had enriched uranium since 2003.

wrong. 1 nuke over israel = all muslim nations turn to glass.

No, 1 nuke over Israel and the responsible country will find itself at war.

Unless Israel nukes it first.

I know you have a hard on for killing Muslims, but even a nuke over Israel won't make any nation do that.

Sorry, but you can probably do a computer simulation and jerk off to that.

OH CHEERIO LOOK AT ME I'M BRITISH I HAVE AN ACCENT I'M SO ENLIGHTENED THERE IS NO GOD YOU ARE ALL MORONS I KNOW EVERYTHING.

I have no idea what you're fucking talking about but my point was that Israel will turn every arab nation to glass in retaliation if they ever get nuked.

Every Arab nation is not every Muslim nation.
Genius you are not
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Ah gay html. Its not editing an error in my last post. Somehow the quote box didn't close around lemons post

I've noticed it quite a bit lately. Tinker, tinker, tinker.
 

Ozoned

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When Iran has a nuclear weapon, I think it would be prudent to reduce the size of our nuclear stockpile by,,,,,,,,,,,,,


































giving a small portion of them to all of the middle east countries that Iran aspires to dominate. Mission accomplished!
 

Lemon law

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The other freshgeardude delusion lies in, "Israel does not, has not, and will never call for the destruction of ANY country. They, like every country with nuclear power are responsible with them and don't obviously call for countries to be wiped off a map."

Instead Israel quietly wipes out the Palestinian people while telling us its for the world's good to commit genocide as they expand, expand, and expand while preventing any Palestinian State.

Self Delude on, freshgeardude, we are really on the road to a just settlement.

 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The other freshgeardude delusion lies in, "Israel does not, has not, and will never call for the destruction of ANY country. They, like every country with nuclear power are responsible with them and don't obviously call for countries to be wiped off a map."

Instead Israel quietly wipes out the Palestinian people while telling us its for the world's good to commit genocide as they expand, expand, and expand while preventing any Palestinian State.

Self Delude on, freshgeardude, we are really on the road to a just settlement.

:roll: While they are being quietly wiped out, they enjoy an annual population growth rate of approx. 2.225%
 
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: freshgeardude
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I really couldn't care less.

First threat makes them a hole in the ground so for their own sake i hope they know better.

problem with this idea is that, 1 nuke over israel, and it is destroyed. one bomb. thats one slip or error in the Israel passive defense.

they have been past the first threat. they have had enriched uranium since 2003.

wrong. 1 nuke over israel = all muslim nations turn to glass.

No, 1 nuke over Israel and the responsible country will find itself at war.

Unless Israel nukes it first.

I know you have a hard on for killing Muslims, but even a nuke over Israel won't make any nation do that.

Sorry, but you can probably do a computer simulation and jerk off to that.

OH CHEERIO LOOK AT ME I'M BRITISH I HAVE AN ACCENT I'M SO ENLIGHTENED THERE IS NO GOD YOU ARE ALL MORONS I KNOW EVERYTHING.

I have no idea what you're fucking talking about but my point was that Israel will turn every arab nation to glass in retaliation if they ever get nuked.

Every Arab nation is not every Muslim nation.
Genius you are not

True, it's about 10-11% or so, i missed that he changed his definitions there.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The other freshgeardude delusion lies in, "Israel does not, has not, and will never call for the destruction of ANY country. They, like every country with nuclear power are responsible with them and don't obviously call for countries to be wiped off a map."

Instead Israel quietly wipes out the Palestinian people while telling us its for the world's good to commit genocide as they expand, expand, and expand while preventing any Palestinian State.

Self Delude on, freshgeardude, we are really on the road to a just settlement.

NO, Israel defended their civilian population, the constant rocket attacs that had people hiding in bunkers and living in a war zone had to be eliminated.

THAT is the reason, Israel didn't start anything, Hamas did, or rather their military part Al Quassam.

If you want to play blind, go ahead, but the truth will still be the truth regardless if you want to see it or not.
 

Freshgeardude

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The other freshgeardude delusion lies in, "Israel does not, has not, and will never call for the destruction of ANY country. They, like every country with nuclear power are responsible with them and don't obviously call for countries to be wiped off a map."

Instead Israel quietly wipes out the Palestinian people while telling us its for the world's good to commit genocide as they expand, expand, and expand while preventing any Palestinian State.

Self Delude on, freshgeardude, we are really on the road to a just settlement.

:roll: While they are being quietly wiped out, they enjoy an annual population growth rate of approx. 2.225%

Truth is truth.

Ah may I remind you the land known as the west bank was taken by israel in wars and they have given a lot back.

Secondly, I do hope you k ow israel is the only nation in the ME that homes the people. Look at egypt. They took their military and locked the border. Lebanon nor jordan nor Syria want them

 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
NO, Israel defended their civilian population, the constant rocket attacs that had people hiding in bunkers and living in a war zone had to be eliminated.

THAT is the reason, Israel didn't start anything, Hamas did, or rather their military part Al Quassam.

If you want to play blind, go ahead, but the truth will still be the truth regardless if you want to see it or not.

Are you denying the fact that Israel has being engaged in an ongoing conquest over Palestine since long before Hamas ever existed?


As for the topic, Israel has nuclear armed submarines that assure Iran can't even think about nuking Israel without accepting the fact that doing so would bring the same upon themselves. Besides, nuking Israel would mean destroying or at least irradiating the second holiest site in Islam, an no Muslim could want any part in that.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
NO, Israel defended their civilian population, the constant rocket attacs that had people hiding in bunkers and living in a war zone had to be eliminated.

THAT is the reason, Israel didn't start anything, Hamas did, or rather their military part Al Quassam.

If you want to play blind, go ahead, but the truth will still be the truth regardless if you want to see it or not.

Are you denying the fact that Israel has being engaged in an ongoing conquest over Palestine since long before Hamas ever existed?


As for the topic, Israel has nuclear armed submarines that assure Iran can't even think about nuking Israel without accepting the fact that doing so would bring the same upon themselves. Besides, nuking Israel would mean destroying or at least irradiating the second holiest site in Islam, an no Muslim could want any part in that.

I am not denying anything, but land was given back as a gesture of peace and WHAT happened? They used it because from there their rockets could reach Israeli civilians.

Iran armed Hamas and Hisb'Allah, it's quite probable that without Irans and Syrias interference there would be peace in the area so i can understand the WORLDS anger towards those two states.

As for nukes, as i said, Iran has a lunatic president and that is IT.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am not denying anything, but land was given back as a gesture of peace and WHAT happened?

What happened is more complicated than you suggest, here is a former national director of the American Jewish Congress and of the Synagogue Council of America explaining as much:

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The greater lie is that Sharon?s withdrawal from Gaza was intended as a prelude to further withdrawals and a peace agreement. This is how Sharon?s senior adviser Dov Weisglass, who was also his chief negotiator with the Americans, described the withdrawal from Gaza, in an interview with Ha?aretz in August 2004:

What I effectively agreed to with the Americans was that part of the settlements [i.e. the major settlement blocks on the West Bank] would not be dealt with at all, and the rest will not be dealt with until the Palestinians turn into Finns . . . The significance [of the agreement with the US] is the freezing of the political process. And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state and you prevent a discussion about the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package that is called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed from our agenda indefinitely. And all this with [President Bush?s] authority and permission . . . and the ratification of both houses of Congress.

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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n02/sieg01_.html

Also, Iran's president holds little actual power, none over the military matters.
 

tvarad

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The other freshgeardude delusion lies in, "Israel does not, has not, and will never call for the destruction of ANY country. They, like every country with nuclear power are responsible with them and don't obviously call for countries to be wiped off a map."

Instead Israel quietly wipes out the Palestinian people while telling us its for the world's good to commit genocide as they expand, expand, and expand while preventing any Palestinian State.

Self Delude on, freshgeardude, we are really on the road to a just settlement.

:roll: While they are being quietly wiped out, they enjoy an annual population growth rate of approx. 2.225%

One of the strategies of the radicals is to outbreed the Israelis into oblivion. And most of the pics of the Palestinians I see makes me believe that there's a serious need for local Weight-Watchers franchises. It's obvious that they're well-fed and fattened by their benefactors in the Middle-East.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I am not denying anything, but land was given back as a gesture of peace and WHAT happened?

What happened is more complicated than you suggest, here is a former national director of the American Jewish Congress and of the Synagogue Council of America explaining as much:

...

The greater lie is that Sharon?s withdrawal from Gaza was intended as a prelude to further withdrawals and a peace agreement. This is how Sharon?s senior adviser Dov Weisglass, who was also his chief negotiator with the Americans, described the withdrawal from Gaza, in an interview with Ha?aretz in August 2004:

What I effectively agreed to with the Americans was that part of the settlements [i.e. the major settlement blocks on the West Bank] would not be dealt with at all, and the rest will not be dealt with until the Palestinians turn into Finns . . . The significance [of the agreement with the US] is the freezing of the political process. And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state and you prevent a discussion about the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package that is called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed from our agenda indefinitely. And all this with [President Bush?s] authority and permission . . . and the ratification of both houses of Congress.

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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n02/sieg01_.html

Also, Iran's president holds little actual power, none over the military matters.

First of all, it's very simple, a peace gesture was made and Hamas used it to show that they want war, not peace, it's as simple as that, land was given, they used it to kill.

And i've already stated that Irans President isn't more than the one who flew over the cuckoos nest.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
NO, Israel defended their civilian population, the constant rocket attacs that had people hiding in bunkers and living in a war zone had to be eliminated.

THAT is the reason, Israel didn't start anything, Hamas did, or rather their military part Al Quassam.

If you want to play blind, go ahead, but the truth will still be the truth regardless if you want to see it or not.

Are you denying the fact that Israel has being engaged in an ongoing conquest over Palestine since long before Hamas ever existed?


As for the topic, Israel has nuclear armed submarines that assure Iran can't even think about nuking Israel without accepting the fact that doing so would bring the same upon themselves. Besides, nuking Israel would mean destroying or at least irradiating the second holiest site in Islam, an no Muslim could want any part in that.

The conquest is a song and dance. Israel took land in conflict when attacked.
Israel has returned land when the olive branch of peace is extended.
When the olive branch is full of thorns, Israel has been pricked and does not want anything to do with the offer.

 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
When Iran has a nuclear weapon, I think it would be prudent to reduce the size of our nuclear stockpile by,,,,,,,,,,,,

giving a small portion of them to all of the middle east countries that Iran aspires to dominate. Mission accomplished!

Oh come on, man. Iran doesn't want to dominate anyone. Their military are "Defense Forces" just like Israel's. :laugh:
 

Jhhnn

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So, uhh, the Iranians are moving forward with their plans to enrich uranium to reactor grade under the inspection regime of the IAEA...

Whoop-ti-freaking-doo... Until such time as that agency indicates that diversion of materials is occurring, it's all just fearmongering and bluster... not to mention diversion of attention by the Israelis...

Rave on, fools...
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
So, uhh, the Iranians are moving forward with their plans to enrich uranium to reactor grade under the inspection regime of the IAEA...

Whoop-ti-freaking-doo... Until such time as that agency indicates that diversion of materials is occurring, it's all just fearmongering and bluster... not to mention diversion of attention by the Israelis...

Rave on, fools...

It's all about the FEAR, the incredible FEAR that maybe they will someday even have a working project, and hide it from the inspectors, you know, just like Iraq did, it's the SAME song and dance, the only thing that has changed is one letter in the countrys name.

I'll leave it up to each of you to find similariteis with the buildup to the Iraq war, you have more than enough on this very page of text.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Aimster
There is never going to be war with Iran.
We attacked Iraq because they had no weapons.

I've heard this one before, i wouldn't put money on it either way right now.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
First of all, it's very simple, a peace gesture was made and Hamas used it to show that they want war, not peace, it's as simple as that, land was given, they used it to kill.

And i've already stated that Irans President isn't more than the one who flew over the cuckoos nest.

Where do you see any gesture of peace in pulling out a few thousand settlers in the smaller portion of Palestine while adding to the hundreds of thousands across the the far larger portion of Palestine?

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The conquest is a song and dance. Israel took land in conflict when attacked.

Israel took the Palestinian territories under occupation 42 years ago, and has been holding millions of people there under overwhelming military force while slowly colonizing across it with civilian settlers to this very day.

Are you denying this fact?
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
First of all, it's very simple, a peace gesture was made and Hamas used it to show that they want war, not peace, it's as simple as that, land was given, they used it to kill.

And i've already stated that Irans President isn't more than the one who flew over the cuckoos nest.

Where do you see any gesture of peace in pulling out a few thousand settlers in the smaller portion of Palestine while adding to the hundreds of thousands across the the far larger portion of Palestine?

If that would be what happened then it would have been a disgrace, but it wasn't and YOU KNOW THAT, lying doesn't further your cause but it's a common tactic.

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The conquest is a song and dance. Israel took land in conflict when attacked.

Israel took the Palestinian territories under occupation 42 years ago, and has been holding millions of people there under overwhelming military force while slowly colonizing across it with civilian settlers to this very day.

Are you denying this fact?

Yo uhave to be shitting me, they did no such thing, they fought a war and Jordanians got trapped in the middle, there are very few Palestinians on the west bank and Gaza, the overwhelming majority of them live in Israel, Lebanon and Jordan in the two latter they live in refugee camps in the former they live as citizens.

Don't make yourself stupider than you are by denying this, get a hold of the facts and then come back and you can dedicate a thread to this and i'll discuss it with you, thing is, if you knew the facts, you'd agree.
 

OCGuy

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Israel is going to take care of the Iranian problem. We gave them the specially equipped F-16s. They proved in Syria they can evade Ruskie SAMs. Putin is still shaking his head over that one....