Iran deal reached

[Zorkorist]

By Obama, you mean the UN Security Council and some of the US's closest allies.

No Obama... and Kerry.

We voted Kerry out a long time ago, and here he is negotiating the Iran deal.

-John

 

[brycejones]

his answers were defensive and thin skinned. probably the most unpresidential press conference he has ever done.

there is a fucking video of the totally valid question by garrett and the scolding response by your dear leader. Will your butt buddies at MSNBC show a different video?

get a new brain yours is rotten.

ive watched the video ive heard it on the radio and it was just pathetic.Obama didnt answer shit, all he did was scold a member of the press.

no just disgusted how people like yourself and the other tools (both sides) in here worship politicians of their party. its very cultist and scary as hell. i bet if obama told you to drink a cup of koolaid you would.

Are you done with your tantrum yet?

 

[brycejones]

No Obama... and Kerry. ago, and here he is negotiating the Iran deal.

Well we do generally expect the Secretary of State to be involved in diplomatic negotiations. Is this just going to another one of your rage nights where you just spout "government" and "Obama"?

 

[Zorkorist]

You are the one attacking.

Tell me an idea on the thread topic.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

I'm bout done with you, brycejones.

You only attack, and distract from the topic at hand.

-John

 

[brycejones]

I'm bout done with you, brycejones.

You only attack, and distract from the topic at hand.

-John

I think the agreement was about the best that could be expected. What would you have him done differently? I attack because I get tired of the constant stream of empty rhetoric that is nothing more than "Obama Bad". So serious question what do you realistically think could have been done differently and why? We'll just pretend you didn't post your comment about Kerry and being voted out. (because that certainly was on topic)

 

[nickqt]

Hi BryceJones... do you also hold my dick while I piss?

-John

Oh, hey look. Attacking the poster instead of their argument.

Why don't you...what was it...

Wow.. why don't you take your hate for me in private, rather than spam threads.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Eat shit, nick.

You and he can go butt fuck each other.

-John

Interpersonal attacks are sadly endemic to P&N, but you seem to engage in a disproportionate number of them, and then take them one overly crude step over any line.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Zorkorist]

And you have succesfully hijacked the thread.

Next time you are both on ignore.

You contribute nothing, other than hate.

-John

 

[ivwshane]

Hi BryceJones... do you also hold my dick while I piss?

-John

You've already pissed all over yourself, no holding necessary.

 

[Zorkorist]

I haven't and you are piling on.

You should be ignored too.

All you do is attack.

-John

 

[ivwshane]

I haven't and you are piling on.

You should be ignored too.

All you do is attack.

-John

I can smell your piss from here!

And all you do is post the stupidest shit multiple times in every thread you venture in.

Can't take the heat? Then get the fuck out!

 

[nickqt]

Eat shit, nick.

You and he can go butt fuck each other.

-John

Cry more, loser.

 

[MongGrel]

Eat shit, nick.

You and he can go butt fuck each other.

-John

And you have succesfully hijacked the thread.

Next time you are both on ignore.

You contribute nothing, other than hate.

-John

He's pretty good at making off the cuff statements that go all over the place.

 

[MongGrel]

I can smell your piss from here!

And all you do is post the stupidest shit multiple times in every thread you venture in.

Can't take the heat? Then get the fuck out!

You're on the same boat, to be honest.

Irrational ranting.

 

[MongGrel]

And you have succesfully hijacked the thread.

Next time you are both on ignore.

You contribute nothing, other than hate.

-John

Why not just ignore people if your going to rather than run off at the mouth.

You really think anyone gives a shit if you put them on ignore?

 

[Zorkorist]

I threaten to ignore them, when I should threaten to laugh in their face.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Duck and weave...

Communists, socialists, etc.

-John

 

[ivwshane]

You're on the same boat, to be honest.

Irrational ranting.

Yeah! I'm in the same boat as you!

 

[pcgeek11]

Making the perfect the enemy of the good, of course.

Or fling whatever shit you can find, right?

Your sentence doesn't make any sense.

Nobody was slinging anything. I would also like to know why they did not make that part of the deal. It is a valid question and should have been answered. He has shown Zero Interest in getting these people back. None.

 

[pcgeek11]

The way Garrette phrased the question was emotionally laden crap and he was rightfully called out for it. He could have asked the same question without that "conscience of the nation" bit. Obama addressed it directly and didn't talk around it. Not tying the issues together means those prisoners do not provide leverage to Iran. We want holding American citizens to be a worthless proposition that doesn't give a country or group additional leverage in negotiating with the American government on other issues. Ultimately that position discourages taking Americans.

I disagree. It does concern the conscience of the nation. It isn't a ransom. Simply put; release them or we aren't negotiating with you period.

Pretty darn simple.

 

[pcgeek11]

Are you kidding me? I thought his response was excellent on that question, and I thought his response was done well enough that anyone asking that question would realize they were an idiot for asking that question.

It's amusing though, to note that the Right chastised Obama for negotiating the release of a US citizen in the past, and now, they're chastising him for not negotiating the release of US citizens. (Though there are still efforts being made to get those citizens released.) I presume that's what Fox means by "balanced."

Not negotiating the release. Either release the people or we Don't Negotiate. Whole different puppy.

 

[pcgeek11]

Get some new news sources bro, it's rotting your brain!

They had the same video as EVERY News Source. And don't call me bro.

 

[ivwshane]

They had the same video as EVERY News Source. And don't call me bro.

I see you are feeling extra stupid this morning! I don't think new news sources will help you anyway, you are way past stupid.

 

[DrPizza]

I disagree. It does concern the conscience of the nation. It isn't a ransom. Simply put; release them or we aren't negotiating with you period.

Pretty darn simple.

That is foolish. You really think a handful of people are far more important than brokering a deal that greatly diminishes Iran's ability to obtain nuclear weapons?

What do you do if Iran didn't acquiesce to that demand? Not have negotiations? Or go back to the negotiating table and look like a fool? Or war? I'm having trouble seeing another option. You'd prefer war to prevent them from being a nuclear power? We can listen on the news each week for the names of the young soldiers who were killed in action over there. We can spend a few more trillion dollars on a war. We can really piss off a lot of other nations, greatly tarnishing our image on the international stage. And, you're forgetting - though the US had a huge role in the negotiating, there are a LOT of other nations involved in this too - what about prisoners from their countries?

As was pointed out in his speech, the number one priority was a nuclear weapons free Iran. A lot of other nations were foregoing billions of dollars in trade (sanctions, no oil), because they also felt that a nuclear weapon free Iran was more important than their profits. If we walked away from the negotiating table, why the hell would those other nations want to continue to participate in the US led sanctions? What's stopping India from saying, "fuck it. Let's buy their oil."