iPhone OS 3.0 upgrade thread

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Wonderful Pork

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Originally posted by: PrinceGaz
I want to check this against a bunch of knowledgeable guys before considering going ahead with the iPod Touch 2G OS 3.0 upgrade, as it sounds too easy to be true and there surely has to be a problem somewhere if it isn't.

Is it true that I can avoid the US$10 (probably GB£6 where I live) charge for OS3.0 on my 2nd gen iPod Touch if I follow these steps...

1) update iTunes to v8.2 (I've downloaded v8.2.0.23 and have it waiting to be installed to update my 8.1.x.x version currently in use)
2) download the official iPod Touch 2G v3.0 .ipsw file "iPod2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw" from Apple (roughly 257MB in size)
3) using iTunes, hold down the 'Shift' key while hitting the 'Restore' option for my iPod Touch and choosing to restore to this new firmware file

I do understand that without modifying that .ipsw file (which is just a compressed archive that can be opened in WinRAR and similar to replace files within it with the cracked versions for jailbreaking) that I won't have a jailbroken iPod Touch 2G running OS3.0, but that I will have a fully recognised and legal version of the OS3.0 update installed. Am I missing something here, or is the US$10 charge to upgrade to OS 3.0 therefore optional to iPod Touch users who know the steps needed to do it manually?

Final version, probably not. If its the GM Beta there would be a better chance. But for $10 I wouldn't deal with the hassle. What happens with 3.0.1 comes out?
 

imported_PrinceGaz

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Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
Final version, probably not. If its the GM Beta there would be a better chance. But for $10 I wouldn't deal with the hassle. What happens with 3.0.1 comes out?

The thing is, many websites are saying this is what you can do to install the final (not beta) OS 3.0 for free. Essentially downloading the firmware with your browser from Apple's servers (which I've done), then using the ability in iTunes (provided it has been updated to iTunes 8.2.x.x) to force a restore to whichever firmware version you have on your hard-drive, to load it onto your device.

What happens when 3.0.1 comes out? The process involved would suggest that iTunes will see it as a legitimate restore to that OS version, and should regard the device as currently having a correct OS 3.0 install. Subsequent updates to OS 3.x should therefore be trouble free as OS 3.0 was successfully installed by iTunes and has not been altered in any way. By that time, there are likely to be iPod Touch 2G devices being sold with OS 3.0 pre-installed I would think. They could always refuse to allow future updates, but how likely is that? You've bought their hardware costing around US$200-400, so blocking people who circumvented a US$10 software upgrade would be silly.

The way I hope they see it is:
1. most people who want to upgrade will pay to do so because they are unaware of alternatives
2. those who have researched alternative methods are going to upgrade anyway to either a jailbroken or non-jailbroken 3.x, and blocking any future updates for non-jailbroken 3.0 owners is going to mean they immediately jailbreak their device because they are already well aware of how to do so. All those App Store sales out the windows as jailbroken owners download cracked .ipa apps from wherever they like? I think not.

However, I'm waiting until one app I bought is available in an OS 3.0 compatible version before I do anything.
 

Kmax82

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PrinceGaz,

Yes this method will work, however, it's no more legal than downloading it from a torrent site. If you're fine doing that then by all means use your method.
 

lokiju

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Originally posted by: PrinceGaz
Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
Final version, probably not. If its the GM Beta there would be a better chance. But for $10 I wouldn't deal with the hassle. What happens with 3.0.1 comes out?

The thing is, many websites are saying this is what you can do to install the final (not beta) OS 3.0 for free. Essentially downloading the firmware with your browser from Apple's servers (which I've done), then using the ability in iTunes (provided it has been updated to iTunes 8.2.x.x) to force a restore to whichever firmware version you have on your hard-drive, to load it onto your device.

What happens when 3.0.1 comes out? The process involved would suggest that iTunes will see it as a legitimate restore to that OS version, and should regard the device as currently having a correct OS 3.0 install. Subsequent updates to OS 3.x should therefore be trouble free as OS 3.0 was successfully installed by iTunes and has not been altered in any way. By that time, there are likely to be iPod Touch 2G devices being sold with OS 3.0 pre-installed I would think. They could always refuse to allow future updates, but how likely is that? You've bought their hardware costing around US$200-400, so blocking people who circumvented a US$10 software upgrade would be silly.

The way I hope they see it is:
1. most people who want to upgrade will pay to do so because they are unaware of alternatives
2. those who have researched alternative methods are going to upgrade anyway to either a jailbroken or non-jailbroken 3.x, and blocking any future updates for non-jailbroken 3.0 owners is going to mean they immediately jailbreak their device because they are already well aware of how to do so. All those App Store sales out the windows as jailbroken owners download cracked .ipa apps from wherever they like? I think not.

However, I'm waiting until one app I bought is available in an OS 3.0 compatible version before I do anything.

It'll work.
 

akshatp

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Downloaded 3.0 and updated my wife's iPhone at about 6pm EST without any problems. DL speed was fine, took about 10-15 minutes for iTunes to backup/update the phone.
 

sourceninja

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A few of my apps are not working. Mostly games. Other then that it is all good. Now I need tethering and picture messaging...
 

Ka0t1x

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Went fine for me.. patched the carrier settings to enable tethering, good stuff.
 

JC86

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Took me 15 minutes from start of DL to finished installation. am I the only one who finds it kind of annoying that the copy paste highlighting shows up all the time as I am trying to scroll thru a page?
 

Rottie

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now downloading....installed just fine and I can see one new app called voice memo...and SMS was renamed to Message....what else? I dont see spotlight or something like that...what am I missing?
 

Kmax82

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Originally posted by: Rottie
now downloading....installed just fine and I can see one new app called voice memo...and SMS was renamed to Message....what else? I dont see searchlight or something like that...what am I missing?

When on the Home Screen, press the home button once. Or simply swipe all the way to the left most pane.
 

ric1287

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anyone who is eligible for the new upgrade window ATT announced yesterday work yet?
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: ric1287
anyone who is eligible for the new upgrade window ATT announced yesterday work yet?

Dial *639# on your phone if you want to know if you are. Me thinks you aren't going to like what you see though.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: ric1287
anyone who is eligible for the new upgrade window ATT announced yesterday work yet?

Dial *639# on your phone if you want to know if you are. Me thinks you aren't going to like what you see though.

mine still says the same thing as it has for the past 3 months - 7/19/2009 - which should mean I am eligible, which is why I'm asking if ATT just didn't update shit yet.
 
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Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
Originally posted by: PrinceGaz
I want to check this against a bunch of knowledgeable guys before considering going ahead with the iPod Touch 2G OS 3.0 upgrade, as it sounds too easy to be true and there surely has to be a problem somewhere if it isn't.

Is it true that I can avoid the US$10 (probably GB£6 where I live) charge for OS3.0 on my 2nd gen iPod Touch if I follow these steps...

1) update iTunes to v8.2 (I've downloaded v8.2.0.23 and have it waiting to be installed to update my 8.1.x.x version currently in use)
2) download the official iPod Touch 2G v3.0 .ipsw file "iPod2,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw" from Apple (roughly 257MB in size)
3) using iTunes, hold down the 'Shift' key while hitting the 'Restore' option for my iPod Touch and choosing to restore to this new firmware file

I do understand that without modifying that .ipsw file (which is just a compressed archive that can be opened in WinRAR and similar to replace files within it with the cracked versions for jailbreaking) that I won't have a jailbroken iPod Touch 2G running OS3.0, but that I will have a fully recognised and legal version of the OS3.0 update installed. Am I missing something here, or is the US$10 charge to upgrade to OS 3.0 therefore optional to iPod Touch users who know the steps needed to do it manually?

Final version, probably not. If its the GM Beta there would be a better chance. But for $10 I wouldn't deal with the hassle. What happens with 3.0.1 comes out?

It doesn't matter. I know people who jumped to 2.0 last year and it upgraded seamlessly like mine as the newer versions came out. Buying OS upgrade is not the same as an app store purchase. You can simply load a firmware file onto your iPod.

And seriously, why are you advertising that you are cheating Apple's upgrade policy? If you want to download OS 3.0 illegally, go ahead, but why bother talking about it here.
 

Kmax82

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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: ric1287
anyone who is eligible for the new upgrade window ATT announced yesterday work yet?

Dial *639# on your phone if you want to know if you are. Me thinks you aren't going to like what you see though.

mine still says the same thing as it has for the past 3 months - 7/19/2009 - which should mean I am eligible, which is why I'm asking if ATT just didn't update shit yet.

I originally had an upgrade date of 8/21/09, but today it changed to 6/19/09. So I'm eligible and if I can find a phone.. I'll be upgrading. I'm hoping that they aren't as hard to come by as the 3G was when it came out.
 
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My upgrade date remains December. While I'm sure I would like a 3Gs, it doesn't really seem worthwhile to me. I bought AppleCare for the phone, so I am inclined to keep it for the full two years and wait for the July 2010 iPhone, which will hopefully be a more substantial upgrade.
 

JC86

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
My upgrade date remains December. While I'm sure I would like a 3Gs, it doesn't really seem worthwhile to me. I bought AppleCare for the phone, so I am inclined to keep it for the full two years and wait for the July 2010 iPhone, which will hopefully be a more substantial upgrade.

i'm in the same boat, I never found my iphone 3g to be slow or lacking so I can't really justify spending $299-$599 for an upgrade, even if I become eligible it'd be nice to be fully out of a contract by this time next year. Video recording and voice control is nice and all but not another two year contract and $500 nice.
 

Muadib

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May 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: ric1287
anyone who is eligible for the new upgrade window ATT announced yesterday work yet?

Dial *639# on your phone if you want to know if you are. Me thinks you aren't going to like what you see though.

mine still says the same thing as it has for the past 3 months - 7/19/2009 - which should mean I am eligible, which is why I'm asking if ATT just didn't update shit yet.

Sounds like you should be good to go.
 

Muadib

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kmax82
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: ric1287
anyone who is eligible for the new upgrade window ATT announced yesterday work yet?

Dial *639# on your phone if you want to know if you are. Me thinks you aren't going to like what you see though.

mine still says the same thing as it has for the past 3 months - 7/19/2009 - which should mean I am eligible, which is why I'm asking if ATT just didn't update shit yet.

I originally had an upgrade date of 8/21/09, but today it changed to 6/19/09. So I'm eligible and if I can find a phone.. I'll be upgrading. I'm hoping that they aren't as hard to come by as the 3G was when it came out.

You can order one, and have it shipped to either a store or your house. I shipped mine to one of the local Apple stores, and can't believe how quick it was. They had two lines, one for reserves, and one for walk ups. The walk up line had about 50 people waiting, but the reserve line only had about 10, and they were being taken care of first. I was in & out in under 30 minutes.

I should also mention is that they only had the 32GB for those who pre- ordered.