iPhone 5S/5C thread

[openwheel]

I guess you missed the memo

 

[Eug]

I guess you missed the memo

No apparently, you did. He said 40 minutes usage, not 4 hours.

I guess I'll just have to assume you just misread it, to give you the benefit if the doubt.

On the new charge I'm at 96% with 21 hours of standby and 40 minutes of usage.

 

[openwheel]

edited, just a typo

I'll copy and repeat here:

I doubt the validity of that 4% drain with 21 hr standby and 40 minutes actual usage. I also doubt the vadlity of 8 day standyby time without WiFi.

 

[saratoga172]

Just to reiterate this is my work phone. I have a personal 5s that I use continually throughout the day. I've stated a couple times my 5c doesn't get a ton of use. The only reason I am getting such good battery life is because of the standby use.

The only thing I have done so far on this phone is make calls and check emails. I might have browsed a couple pages but I've got a personal phone for that. I've taken a few pictures and send some texts but otherwise pretty sparse use.

 

[saratoga172]

edited, just a typo

I'll copy and repeat here:

I doubt the validity of that 4% drain with 21 hr standby and 40 minutes actual usage. I also doubt the vadlity of 8 day standyby time without WiFi.

Honestly I don't care if you believe me or not. You can call BS but here is more proof for the 21 hours I posted earlier. Took a bit after and responded to a couple emails so it dropped 1%.

Whether or not you continue to claim BS is up to you. All I know is quite like and enjoy the battery life I am receiving. It means I'll only have to worry about battery life every few days depending on use.

I will say that I think my phone is more the exception than the norm. I also know the other guys I work with in the office are receiving about 3-4 days of battery life with heavier usage. One phone went 3 days with a 3 hour stretch of using the hotspot one day and about 4-5 hours of phone call usage during that span. Then of course email was the only other thing used.

Again I don't know that everyone will experience the same battery life but I am seeing much better battery compared to the Android phones we deployed and the 4s's we are reclaiming. For reference we only deployed Galaxy S3's, and random HTC's. So nothing phenominal.

 

[saratoga172]

I'm loving the battery life of my 5S but I'm not getting the ridiculous battery life like saratoga. I'm currently at 86% with 53 minutes of use and 5 hours on standby. I think it's outstanding but I'm coming from GSM Galaxy Nexus.

My 5s doesn't get nearly the battery of my 5c. My 5s today is at 85% with 7 hours of standby and 1.5 hours of use. I have much more syncing with it though and loaded with apps and such. I also frequently text on it. If used like my work 5c I'd expect it to get about 4-5 days but I've seen varying results for anything over 2-3 days so I would only know by testing.

One thing I have noticed with every iPhone I've owned is they tend to frontload battery statistics a bit more than Android. What I mean is that a phone will say 100% for 5 hours for example then drain to 90% over the next 5 hours. They usually drain a bit faster from 80-10% then sometimes will hold at 1-2 for a while. iOS 7 seems to be a bit better with that but still not as good as Android.

 

[Eug]

Again I don't know that everyone will experience the same battery life but I am seeing much better battery compared to the Android phones we deployed and the 4s's we are reclaiming. For reference we only deployed Galaxy S3's, and random HTC's. So nothing phenominal.

The iPhone 4S has the lowest spec for standby battery life out of any of the iPhones, and in fact my iPhone 4 was spec'd to have 50% longer standby battery life than the 4S.

I wonder if the new dual-core CPU in the 4S just had to run at significantly higher idle power than the single-core CPU in the 4.

 

[saratoga172]

Well... if you:
- disable data completely
- turn off LTE (or even 3G - is that still possible?)
- not use the phone at all to check things on occasion
- answer a 40 minute call over 2G with the screen off

Then maybe... just maybe... 4% in 21 hours sounds possible... you'd need perfect signal too and probably not move too much so that it's always the same tower?

But I must agree with the above person - what's the point of getting a smartphone then? At least that's how I see it.

I'm loosing 0.7-1.0% per hour idle on my HTC One on 3G with WiFi off (and Google Now disabled) when doing absolutely nothing and the phone just sitting in my pocket and getting push notifications.

Different phones, (providers?), OS's, radio chips etc. Too many factors. Normally I'd agree with you and say it's unlikely...but my phone just did that.

This is also a work phone so I only use it for that. I make/receive a few calls away from my desk, check/respond to email, and check the time periodically. It doesn't get a ton of use but has the potential should I need it. When in the field I'll sometimes need to remote in from the phone or use it as a hotspot. That wasn't done over the 8 day span but it was done for about 10 minutes this morning on the 21 hour battery life. So the phone isn't used a ton but needs some ability for use and I love the battery life. I'm often away from a charger for long periods and that is when I'm making and receiving calls and really using the phone.

 

[saratoga172]

The iPhone 4S has the lowest spec for standby battery life out of any of the iPhones, and in fact my iPhone 4 was spec'd to have 50% longer standby battery life than the 4S.

I wonder if the new dual-core CPU in the 4S just had to run at significantly higher idle power than the single-core CPU in the 4.

I wouldn't be surprised. That or they were still working on how to utilize the chip and the chip itself wasn't as battery optimized. That was Apple's first shot out of the gate and they've gotten better and better each time around.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Before everyone gets worked up about the battery spec, I'm a proponent of Apple in regards to battery life. They've done a great job there. You can find similar statements on Android boards where people talk about 1% drain over 10 hours overnight. The issue I have with quoting a small range of battery life to extrapolate to overall battery life is that its inaccurate. Those people who claim 1% drain overnight probably see the next 10% drop very quickly due to inaccurate battery monitoring.

For the record, here's my stats for the day:

iPhone 5:
Battery left: 81%
Standby: 6:08
Usage: 1:31

Nexus 4:
Battery Left: 77%
Deep Sleep: 4:19:22
Awake: 1:49:19
Total: 6:08:42
Screen On: 8:44

 

[saratoga172]

Before everyone gets worked up about the battery spec, I'm a proponent of Apple in regards to battery life. They've done a great job there. You can find similar statements on Android boards where people talk about 1% drain over 10 hours overnight. The issue I have with quoting a small range of battery life to extrapolate to overall battery life is that its inaccurate. Those people who claim 1% drain overnight probably see the next 10% drop very quickly due to inaccurate battery monitoring.

For the record, here's my stats for the day:

iPhone 5:
Battery left: 81%
Standby: 6:08
Usage: 1:31

Nexus 4:
Battery Left: 77%
Deep Sleep: 4:19:22
Awake: 1:49:19
Total: 6:08:42
Screen On: 8:44

I agree. The reason I'm getting what I get is because a lot of it is standby. If I were talking or using apps all day on the phone I'd expect to see 2-3 days of use.

 

[kbp]

saratoga -
Is that with bluetooth on or off?

 

[lopri]

When your Android is fresh and free of bloat, its standby hours are great. But iOS does a much better job than Android for standby battery usage when you start installing apps that require updating and syncing. Though in my view this comparison is becoming more and more moot as both the platforms mature. More relevant comparison would be among the iPhones/iPads, or Android phones/tablets, respectively.

 

[saratoga172]

saratoga -
Is that with bluetooth on or off?

Bluetooth on but I haven't actually used it for anything. Auto-brightness is on and wifi is off.

Any chance carrier impacts battery life? I seem to get better battery with AT&T devices as a whole than Verizon.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Bluetooth on but I haven't actually used it for anything. Auto-brightness is on and wifi is off.

Any chance carrier impacts battery life? I seem to get better battery with AT&T devices as a whole than Verizon.

Certainly. It helps to have a carrier that's not congested so your device isn't trying to get data continuously. This tends to exacerbate the battery issues on Android due to the sync and pull method that many apps and widgets use.

 

[thedosbox]

Before everyone gets worked up about the battery spec, I'm a proponent of Apple in regards to battery life. They've done a great job there. You can find similar statements on Android boards where people talk about 1% drain over 10 hours overnight. The issue I have with quoting a small range of battery life to extrapolate to overall battery life is that its inaccurate. Those people who claim 1% drain overnight probably see the next 10% drop very quickly due to inaccurate battery monitoring.

For the record, here's my stats for the day:

iPhone 5:
Battery left: 81%
Standby: 6:08
Usage: 1:31

Nexus 4:
Battery Left: 77%
Deep Sleep: 4:19:22
Awake: 1:49:19
Total: 6:08:42
Screen On: 8:44

I agree with you on the iphone 5 based on co-workers experiences, but the Nexus 4 isn't really known for stellar battery life.

 

[Fingolfin269]

At this point I'm definitely leaning towards keeping the 5S. I bought in after having a VZW Nexus and despising the battery life (even with LTE disabled), stability, etc. It did get better after a full wipe/new rom load but still never felt polished.

I'll be honest. The iPhone is pretty simple. It's basically "what you see is what you get" design but I really don't care. I turn it on, it doesn't crash, and most importantly to me, it's almost 11PM and I still have 38% charge left.

 

[bearxor]

Thought y'all might get a kick out of my battery usage. I'm a pretty heavy user. I've streamed radio on it today, amazon instant video, all of my web surfing and posting, recorded a few minutes of the dogs playing in the water with slow mo and plenty of Candy Crush and Pocket Trains today.

I'm on vacation though, so this is pretty much all over WiFi.

 

[Eug]

Heh. 7.2 hours usage in 15.6 hours, vs. saratoga's 6.5 hours usage in 8.5 days.

 

[bearxor]

Yeah, my phone is basically my computer.

 

[saratoga172]

Today will be a good test for the phone.

Sitting at 84% with 1 day 14 hours of standby and 1 hour 36 minutes of usage. I'll be traveling today so I'll be in another city and should be on my phone more.

Also curious how my personal 5s does since I use it more. I'm anticipating getting home tonight with about 20-30% or so depending how much I play games waiting around and gps I use. I may mix between phones though.

I'll report back tonight or tomorrow morning with stats.

 

[saratoga172]

Yeah, my phone is basically my computer.

You've got a bit more use. Still pretty impressive though in my opinion. Any time you can use your phone for a good part of the day and make it is great.

My 5s yesterday was at 64% with 16 hours of standby and 3.5 hours of use. So standby makes a huge difference on these phones.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

What does "usage" constitute to in iOS? Screen on?

 

[Red Storm]

What does "usage" constitute to in iOS? Screen on?

I believe anything and everything, even a phone call with screen off counts as usage.

 

[saratoga172]

Swapped out my work 5c for the 5s I was waiting to come in. I'll be able to give a relatively close comparison of use between the 5c and 5s as far as battery life. It'll be used for work functions (email, phone calls maybe occasional internet).