midwestfisherman
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You guys do realize that this is a CELL PHONE CAMERA!?!? If you want perfect pictures go buy a DSLR and have at it.
You guys do realize that this is a CELL PHONE CAMERA!?!? If you want perfect pictures go buy a DSLR and have at it.
The issue I have is the the recent comparison photos seem to mainly be around excessive light. Sometimes it is not that bad, but you still get excessive purple carry over. I know this is lens flare, but to be honest, yes....I would rather have no purple then the purple. Yeah, you can try to aim this way or that way, but sometimes you just have those fun family shots on the go. Sorry...I would much rather have the typical flare than someones purple hair. Neither is a great photo, but the purple will just stick out in a picture. The i5 tends to be excessive with the carry over of this purple. I took picts from a single night light and the purple ran 2 foot down a wall, skipped a space and started up again where there was a slight shadow.
I really don't think this if being over played at all. We all know about lens flare and how you can help control it, but this is still significant. The pure purple saturation alone is just ridiculous.
Am I asking for Apple to eliminate the possibility of flare on this camera? lmao...no way. I just have to ask why such the extreme saturated over flow of purple is happening
I was playing around with this earlier. Turns out that if you can shade the lens without blocking any of the FoV, you can very noticeably increase the contrast in the resulting image.
I did a test using my iphone 3 and my new iphone 5. I was particularly interested because my first response to the camera was: "it was worth the price of the phone just to have that feature." I said that to my son. However, your comments did concern me, so I did the test. There was no glare on either the iPhone 3 or the iPhone 5. However, there was a major difference in the quality of the photo. The iPhone 5 is far superior. I should do another test with my Nikon to see how that camera compares. I'll check again with sun light later on. I only checked this time with my screen at full bright.
Thanks for posting. These posts are valuable and it's an important way to keep manufacturers honest. I think there needs to be an investigation into the phones that do have this problem. Perhaps the problem was limited to a batch of phones and not all of them. I expect Apple to investigate. SFTom
My brother and I have been experimenting with his iphone 5, and it does get the purple haze. However, using camera+ and locking the exposure on the source of light, you can get rid of the purple haze/flare.
Of course, as shown in the pictures below, it sort of defeats the purpose of taking pictures in dark areas. But it should help possible with out door shots.
Can others test, and confirm?
Update:
Apple called back my buddy at work - the official response from Engineering is:
1. This is normal (purple flare)
2. Do not point it at bright light sources if you want to avoid the purple flare
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Garbage. They're obviously not going to recall 5 million iPhones, but still...here's a quick pic I took tonight, in the rain, on an overcast day:
http://i.imgur.com/MEVqF.jpg
Notice the light purple haze on the right, even without a super-bright, direct lightsource. C'mon. My 4S's photos don't do that. I hate to say it, but I think I'm going to have to downgrade. I'll either wait for a silent revision of the 5, or I'll just hold out for the 5S.
Bummer. I am just really really disappointed. I've had the 1, the 3G, the 3GS, the 4S, and now the 5. Never had any major issues like this. To be clear, I am not jumping ship on Apple and I'm not mad at the universe - it's one specific defect that apparently doesn't happen to all phones and obviously doesn't bother all people, but it bugs me enough that I'm going to go back to my old iPhone 4S. Still...man
You should check out that nokia 920 when it comes out. That's supposedly got a fantastic camera.
Of course you'll have to put up with WP8 but you might manage depending on how you normally use your phone.
Hey, does anyone have one of the new iPod Touch models? I'm curious to see if that has the purple flare issue too...
I don't have one, but I could probably just go to the Apple Store tomorrow and try it out. It's pretty much on the way home anyway.
I don't have one, but I could probably just go to the Apple Store tomorrow and try it out. It's pretty much on the way home anyway.
After comparing my Iphone 5 and 4 together, I can detect purple flares with both cameras but the hue on the 5 is a bit more "purplish." After shooting hundreds of shots in real-life settings, I didn't encounter any purple at all (or lens flare for that matter).
So while Kaido had me worried initially, I'm just not sure how worked up I should be for something that only happens when I force it to; and to be brutally honest, the purple is not exactly displeasing to the eye for me. I guess opinions will differ but I can't really see this as a recall-level defect. I showed this to a photographer and he basically said it was just lens flare and the purple hue may be due to the way the software was handling exposure compensation.
I know it is important not to blow this out of proportion. However, since the iPhone 4 the camera has been the most important part of the device for me. I have had every iPhone from the 3GS to now, the 5.
Over the weekend I was at a sporting event and there is purple all over the place due to the lights. A friend of mine, with an iPhone 4 got similar shots with virtually no purple at all. There is some, here and there but very, very faint or not at all.
I really hope that this is something which can be tweaked in software. It is a big deal to me that this is happening but I understand that to many people it is a non issue.
Purple Haze on the iPhone 5 - 01:28:00
They talk about it in the new Anandtech podcast...
I haven't got to that point yet in the podcast though.