- Dec 6, 2003
You guys do realize that this is a CELL PHONE CAMERA!?!? If you want perfect pictures go buy a DSLR and have at it.
lmao. Tell Apple not to make such high claims then. Also, that is a cop out. Fact is something more than a little lens flare is going on during some shots.You guys do realize that this is a CELL PHONE CAMERA!?!? If you want perfect pictures go buy a DSLR and have at it.
Yeah, that's really what it boils down to. It's just excessive. It wasn't a prominent issue on my 4S.The issue I have is the the recent comparison photos seem to mainly be around excessive light. Sometimes it is not that bad, but you still get excessive purple carry over. I know this is lens flare, but to be honest, yes....I would rather have no purple then the purple. Yeah, you can try to aim this way or that way, but sometimes you just have those fun family shots on the go. Sorry...I would much rather have the typical flare than someones purple hair. Neither is a great photo, but the purple will just stick out in a picture. The i5 tends to be excessive with the carry over of this purple. I took picts from a single night light and the purple ran 2 foot down a wall, skipped a space and started up again where there was a slight shadow.
I really don't think this if being over played at all. We all know about lens flare and how you can help control it, but this is still significant. The pure purple saturation alone is just ridiculous.
Am I asking for Apple to eliminate the possibility of flare on this camera? lmao...no way. I just have to ask why such the extreme saturated over flow of purple is happening
Yah, I noticed the same thing after the earlier suggestion of using your finger to block light glare and thus kill off most of the purple. I made a little paper shield around the camera, but it only worked when the light source was at a controllable angle, so in rooms where the lamps were further away or there were multiple lamps, I couldn't really do much. Fortunately it's not an issue in every single shot, so it's not the end of the world, just an annoyance.I was playing around with this earlier. Turns out that if you can shade the lens without blocking any of the FoV, you can very noticeably increase the contrast in the resulting image.
Cool, so you have zero purple flare near a bright light source? If so, you are the first person to contact me about it. Congrats! I'm glad to hear someone out there isn't having issues!I did a test using my iphone 3 and my new iphone 5. I was particularly interested because my first response to the camera was: "it was worth the price of the phone just to have that feature." I said that to my son. However, your comments did concern me, so I did the test. There was no glare on either the iPhone 3 or the iPhone 5. However, there was a major difference in the quality of the photo. The iPhone 5 is far superior. I should do another test with my Nikon to see how that camera compares. I'll check again with sun light later on. I only checked this time with my screen at full bright.
Thanks for posting. These posts are valuable and it's an important way to keep manufacturers honest. I think there needs to be an investigation into the phones that do have this problem. Perhaps the problem was limited to a batch of phones and not all of them. I expect Apple to investigate. SFTom
I actually spent about 45 minutes last night testing the same thing with the new Camera+ update for iOS6. I still got purple even in locked-off shotsMy brother and I have been experimenting with his iphone 5, and it does get the purple haze. However, using camera+ and locking the exposure on the source of light, you can get rid of the purple haze/flare.
Of course, as shown in the pictures below, it sort of defeats the purpose of taking pictures in dark areas. But it should help possible with out door shots.
Can others test, and confirm?
You should check out that nokia 920 when it comes out. That's supposedly got a fantastic camera.Update:
Apple called back my buddy at work - the official response from Engineering is:
1. This is normal (purple flare)
2. Do not point it at bright light sources if you want to avoid the purple flare
Garbage. They're obviously not going to recall 5 million iPhones, but still...here's a quick pic I took tonight, in the rain, on an overcast day:
Notice the light purple haze on the right, even without a super-bright, direct lightsource. C'mon. My 4S's photos don't do that. I hate to say it, but I think I'm going to have to downgrade. I'll either wait for a silent revision of the 5, or I'll just hold out for the 5S.
Bummer. I am just really really disappointed. I've had the 1, the 3G, the 3GS, the 4S, and now the 5. Never had any major issues like this. To be clear, I am not jumping ship on Apple and I'm not mad at the universe - it's one specific defect that apparently doesn't happen to all phones and obviously doesn't bother all people, but it bugs me enough that I'm going to go back to my old iPhone 4S. Still...man
I played with a Windows 7 phone awhile ago - the interface was actually pretty cool! The animation was nice and it seemed to work fairly quickly. The 920 (and 808!) also looks like a beast. But, I'm going to stick with my 4S...the camera on the 5 isn't that much better (just the 4S's camera with software enhancements), so I don't think I'll miss too much. Hopefully the 5S or whatever will have like a 12-megapixel camera and no excessive purple haze.You should check out that nokia 920 when it comes out. That's supposedly got a fantastic camera.
Of course you'll have to put up with WP8 but you might manage depending on how you normally use your phone.
Cool, thanks. It's an hour out of the way for me :'( I would like a B-cam for my video projects (strapping my iPhone to motorcycles and stuff makes me a little nervous lol) and the new iPod looks pretty nice, provided it doesn't have the bad purple flare.I don't have one, but I could probably just go to the Apple Store tomorrow and try it out. It's pretty much on the way home anyway.
Glad to hear it's not too bad on your phone! I've seen a couple in person that aren't horrible and just have more of a bad tinge than anything, but the majority are pretty purplish. Maybe we just got a bad first batch on the east coast, I dunno.After comparing my Iphone 5 and 4 together, I can detect purple flares with both cameras but the hue on the 5 is a bit more "purplish." After shooting hundreds of shots in real-life settings, I didn't encounter any purple at all (or lens flare for that matter).
So while Kaido had me worried initially, I'm just not sure how worked up I should be for something that only happens when I force it to; and to be brutally honest, the purple is not exactly displeasing to the eye for me. I guess opinions will differ but I can't really see this as a recall-level defect. I showed this to a photographer and he basically said it was just lens flare and the purple hue may be due to the way the software was handling exposure compensation.
Yeah, that's the thing. Even though this thread is getting huge & has a lot of news coverage, it's not like it's an end-of-the-world issue. I'd hate to blow it out of proportion, but for me, it's a big issue because the camera is pretty much the primary function of my iPhone as well. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here to be honestI know it is important not to blow this out of proportion. However, since the iPhone 4 the camera has been the most important part of the device for me. I have had every iPhone from the 3GS to now, the 5.
Over the weekend I was at a sporting event and there is purple all over the place due to the lights. A friend of mine, with an iPhone 4 got similar shots with virtually no purple at all. There is some, here and there but very, very faint or not at all.
I really hope that this is something which can be tweaked in software. It is a big deal to me that this is happening but I understand that to many people it is a non issue.