iPhone 4S vs Samsung Galaxy S II vs Nexus Prime

[sygyzy]

Same as you. If the 4S had a 4" screen, it wouldn't be a question.

To the OP - Google Maps provides turn by turn but no voice navigation for iOS. For free navigation, I'm happy using MapQuest.

Are you sure they offer turn-by-turn? I was using my friend's iPhone 4 from Anaheim to Santa Barbara, CA and just spits out a list of directions the same way Mapquest did in 2000. When I say turn by turn, I don't mean displaying

1. West on Lincoln 2.3 miles
2. Right on Arizona 3.3 miles
3. Destination on your left, 400 feet

I mean a voice says West on Lincoln and then it uses GPS to detect where you are and then when you are close to the turn, it tells you to turn right and shows an arrow.

 

[Krynj]

Google Maps with Navigation on Android gives turn-by-turn voice directions. It works extremely well.

 

[Sid59]

3GS here and it's either wait for iphone5 or Nexus Prime.

How much are the Nexus unsubsidized? Depending on price, i may buy off contract and preserve my upgrade until iphone5 or later.

Also, can i assume since android hardware moves so swiftly, the resale value on Nexus goes down?

 

[zerocool84]

Unfortunately, the iPhone 4's GPU still gets more games and optimizations than whatever Exynos, Hummingbird and TI OMAP4 get... combined.

So even though it's a slower GPU, it still gets better-looking games and a lot more support and optimizations... until Google does something about the situation, or until someone other than Gameloft cares.

In fact, Gameloft doesn't even care that much. The same game (I'm talking about Asphalt 6 and Let's Golf 2) run better and smoother on the iPhone 4 than on the superior GPU on the Galaxy S. I know because I have a Captivate... which is worse than the iPhone 4 at handling Gameloft's games.

With the 3GS still out there, fragmentation is going to be affecting iPhones as well. It already is with the 4s being the only phone getting Siri and games are either going to be made for the 4s and not playable on 3GS or dumbed down to be able to run on everything.

 

[sygyzy]

Google Maps with Navigation on Android gives turn-by-turn voice directions. It works extremely well.

Thank you. I know. I have an Android device. I was asking about how it worked on the iPhone.

 

[alent1234]

With the 3GS still out there, fragmentation is going to be affecting iPhones as well. It already is with the 4s being the only phone getting Siri and games are either going to be made for the 4s and not playable on 3GS or dumbed down to be able to run on everything.

rage hd will run on the 3gs

 

[Pliablemoose]

I really want Google to implement lane select on their navigation app...

 

[poofyhairguy]

rage hd will run on the 3gs

Yeah, the 3GS is better off than the iPhone 4. Same GPU, lower res. The 4 is the outlier (on every benchmark).

 

[runawayprisoner]

You must not mess with the TegraZone much. Thanks to Nvidia's bribes they are pulling in on average at least one new decent 3D game per month, sometimes two.

Android can quickly catch up because it doesn't need original titles- just ports. As Android moves past the 50% of the smartphone market mark more and more game developers won't be able to ignore Android.

Well, problem is Tegra is inside only so many phones, and I'm not sure you are getting that there are several new games announced for iOS every week. Until Tegra reaches about 3-4 new titles every week, I'm sure Android will have a very large gap to catch up with iOS.

Not to mention Android is already past 50% of the market last I heard. We keep hearing that Android will get better as it gains more marketshare, but... how much more marketshare does it need? 10% more? 20% more? 30% more? It's already half the market.

In the case of the Nexus prime vs the iPhone 4s it is a bigger, equally sharp screen with superior contrast, black levels, and response time.

Until it physically exists, I suspect such a thing is really hard to tell.

With the 3GS still out there, fragmentation is going to be affecting iPhones as well. It already is with the 4s being the only phone getting Siri and games are either going to be made for the 4s and not playable on 3GS or dumbed down to be able to run on everything.

Well, fragmentation is already here, with games made to run on 3 different resolutions and 2 different screen sizes, but I don't think we have run into any trouble with game releases thus far. In fact, many game titles, such as Infinity Blade, are made to run on all of those devices at once. For other publishers, they can cash in on "HD" versions of a particular game, so I don't think anyone has anything to complain about.

 

[boomhower]

OP, I'm confused. Isn't the Prime VZW exclusive and also for the same reason aren't they not carrying the SGS2? So really you need to pick a provider first. The best phone in the world doesn't mean a damn if the service sucks. Then pick an OS and your phone will be the only one left just by process of elimination from that. If your in an LTE area I would be hard pressed to pass on the Prime since your open to Android.

 

[zinfamous]

Until it physically exists, I suspect such a thing is really hard to tell.

screen specs, confirmed, have already been shown. Prime is a 4.6" (video) 720p display.

yes, it is better.

well, pentile, I guess?

 

[Fire&Blood]

If Sprint subsidizes both the iphone 4S and the Prime, they should gain more markets hare than others. Both phones will cut into T-Mobile's customers count.I would certainly wait for the announcement to get the details because subsidy and other factors may point one to SGS2.

OMAP4 is a ok chip, Samsung makes the best mobile RAM, HD and ICS give the Prime the edge over other phones IMO.

Maybe I am biased after testing the SGS2 but I still don't think the Prime will be much better. Yes, it will attract sales from the other 2 phones with it's display and ICS but it doesn't have the innards of a next gen phone so it doesn't depreciate the SGS2 that much.

Nexus's OMAP4, depending on what they did, could perform in the same range as the SGS2 and I don't expect the crippled A5 version to do much better either. The Mail 400 is still a beast.

 

[boomhower]

If Sprint subsidizes both the iphone 4S and the Prime, they should gain more markets hare than others. Both phones will cut into T-Mobile's customers count.I would certainly wait for the announcement to get the details because subsidy and other factors may point one to SGS2.

OMAP4 is a ok chip, Samsung makes the best mobile RAM, HD and ICS give the Prime the edge over other phones IMO.

Maybe I am biased after testing the SGS2 but I still don't think the Prime will be much better. Yes, it will attract sales from the other 2 phones with it's display and ICS but it doesn't have the innards of a next gen phone so it doesn't depreciate the SGS2 that much.

Nexus's OMAP4, depending on what they did, could perform in the same range as the SGS2 and I don't expect the crippled A5 version to do much better either. The Mail 400 is still a beast.

The Prime is going to be VZW from all indications so far and they aren't carrying the SGS2 for that reason so the SGS2 and Prime will not be cross-shopped very much. With high end Android phones being so close in specs I just don't see folks hopping carriers for an Android phone like they did for the iPhone. While the Prime be better spec'd that the SGS2 I would not be surprised in the least for teh SGS3 to come around the first of the year.

 

[Cobalt]

Sold my Atrix today, and buying a GSII tomorrow. I will also pre-order the 4S on Friday and sell one of the phones when I decide which one I like better.

 

[Fire&Blood]

The Prime is going to be VZW from all indications so far and they aren't carrying the SGS2 for that reason so the SGS2 and Prime will not be cross-shopped very much. With high end Android phones being so close in specs I just don't see folks hopping carriers for an Android phone like they did for the iPhone. While the Prime be better spec'd that the SGS2 I would not be surprised in the least for teh SGS3 to come around the first of the year.

No, it's a Nexus device and they aren't carrier exclusive so no VZW exclusivity. We can speculate as to why there is no VZW SGS2 but I don't see the point to. If I had to guess, VZW didn't want the SGS2 as it was too close to the Prime launch. Why would they after bagging the Vigor few months ago.
I think last year's Sprint's subsidy for the Nexus might be repeated this year, maybe even adopted by at least one other carrier. Carrier hopping isn't the only way to get hands on a desirable phone and it's not like other OEM's won't release phones of their own. My guess: Sprint adopts the native version for subsidy and VZW does a branded one with only cosmetic changes, possibly omitting the native tethering app.

I don't think any of the existing phones can attract iphone's existing customer base but they can cut into new smartphone users who don't have prior iphone experience.

Personally, I will take bets that the SGS3 will make an appearance at MWC, as a matter of fact I am banking on it since my contract expires in March.

 

[Piano Man]

We'll have to wait until the 11th for Prime, but this is my take.

iPhone4S - Best screen (for now) in quality not size, best camera, probably close the fastest CPU, by far the fastest GPU, improved 3G on AT&T only (lawl), Siri is just software and I bet it gets jailbroken, iCloud is nothing special, and great battery life.

Galaxy S II - 2nd best screen (for now) that is a good size, good camera, perhaps the fastest CPU (will have to wait and see vs the A5), the GPU is old (some phones have had the SGX 540 for 1.5 yrs now) but adequate, LTE/WiMax, will undoubtedly be getting ICS, Nav, NFC (some models).


Nexus Prime - Looks like it will have the best screen (720p and over 300 ppi) but at 4.65" that sucker is gigantic, and I'm really nervous it will be just too big, but look to a curved design to compensate. Also, ICS does away with the 4 buttons, so perhaps the phone will be more like a 4.2-4.3" phone of today as the screen might extend the full length of the face. If it does have the rumored OMAP 4460 then I don't see how the dual 1.5 GHz won't be the fastest CPU out there. However, lets pray that they get the dual core 540/543 SGX Power VR GPU which will match it in speed with the iphone4S. A single core SGX 540 would be a tragedy on a phone with this resolution screen. The phone ships with ICS, and expect all the goodies (NFC, BT4, aGPS, WiFi, LTE). Camera will probably be 8-10mp. I'm hoping/praying that we will see a 2000+ mah battery for some decent LTE numbers.

Also, its rumored that this device may be VZ only (which is why VZ didn't get the Galaxy II), which while friggin awesome for me, sucks for everyone else.

 

[Fire&Blood]

Also, its rumored that this device may be VZ only (which is why VZ didn't get the Galaxy II), which while friggin awesome for me, sucks for everyone else.

A Nexus device cannot be carrier exclusive. At worst, the Prime can be subsidized by VZW only but still have versions for all other carriers but the downside would be the full price. What's likely to happen is that VZW will use it's DROID® license for their own branded version.

 

[Piano Man]

A Nexus device cannot be carrier exclusive. At worst, the Prime can be subsidized by VZW only but still have versions for all other carriers but the downside would be the full price. What's likely to happen is that VZW will use it's DROID® license for their own branded version.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/verizon-wireless-exclusively-launching-samsung-droid-prime-in-october/

Doesn't mean its true, but it is being rumored.

 

[Fire&Blood]

http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/verizon-wireless-exclusively-launching-samsung-droid-prime-in-october/

Doesn't mean its true, but it is being rumored.

Source cited in BGR article is "random person at 4chan forums"
Nexus=not exclusive.

 

[alent1234]

dumping my Inspire for iphone 4s next week

better camera
better antenna
better app store
Siri looks cool for someone lazy like me

why can't google get something simple as a working camera that takes pictures fast working like apple did?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Really hoping I can buy an unsubsidized Prime on launch day with 850 MHz 3G. $10 data FTW.

 

[Red Storm]

I still have a hard time believing Verizon is going to allow a Nexus (as in pure Android/bloat-free) device on their network. I really, really want it to be true, but I'm not believing it until I physically see the phone for sale in store.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I still have a hard time believing Verizon is going to allow a Nexus (as in pure Android/bloat-free) device on their network. I really, really want it to be true, but I'm not believing it until I physically see the phone for sale in store.

Droid Prime (Verizon) vs Nexus Prime (Everyone else)

 

[YoungGun21]

Don't most people here root? If VZW does in fact get a bloated version, I'll just root it and put on a custom ROM. I'll probably do that on the Nexus anyway. It isn't like that is really much of a deal breaker, since they will be the exact same phone, and the process will take like 15 minutes.

 

[Anubis]

its possiable the VZW version will be bloat free simply because its running ICS and VZWs bloat is incompatable

that would actually be pretty funny if true

but yes im sure you will be able to root it and remove whatever you want