iOS 6 Jailbreak released

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effowe

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SO...dumb question...I was gifted an Apple TV v3...what is the expectation that that version of Apple TV will be jailbroken?

When they are jailbroken...can you easily stream .mvk's?

Unfortunately, the ATV 3 isn't jailbroken and there is no word if and when it will be. You might be better off selling it and putting that money towards a Western Digital TV Live which can stream 1080p MKVs.
 

Miramonti

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I have over 50 tweaks and Cydia utilities on at any time, plus I've edited the daemons to increase my available RAM and decrease boot/reboot times. The most useful tweaks:

  • Activator: Lets you assign actions to various button pushes and screen swipes. I have it set to control play/pause via simultaneously pressing the volume buttons.
  • Dashboard X: Put widgets, like Android, on the Springboard (the screen where you launch apps).
  • F.lux: Make the screen more orange at night. Helps keep your phone from awkwardly illuminating your face.
  • Folder Enhancer: Customize your folders, give them pages, nesting folders, etc.
  • Forecast: Alters the lockscreen clock to include weather.
  • Gridlock and Iconoclasm: Customize app placement on Springboard.
  • iCleaner: Do you notice the "Other" section of data on your phone creeping up on you? iCleaner deletes junk files to reclaim space (upward of 1GB when I first did it).
  • Infinidock: Scrolling. Dock.
  • NCSettings: Puts settings like Wifi and brightness into the Notification Center.
  • Spotdict: Lets you use the search page as a dictionary.
  • SwipeAway and Zephyr: Swipe from the bottom of the screen to return to the Springboard and get to the multitasking bar. Swipe up on an app to close it. (Good for obsessive folks, even if it doesn't help the memory).
  • Tempus: Gives a much better music control experience on the lockscreen.
  • 3GUnrestrictor: Download any sized app over 3/4G/LTE.
Seriously, it's hard to go back to vanilla iOS after having these.

Nice list, thx.

I have:
SMSettings (seemingly a must have)
Firewall ip ($4.49, pricey since jailbreak)
Adblock (2.19 iirc)
Veency, from tip above...very cool.
 

Miramonti

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Is there a good browser that has cookie management, open in new tab, and proxy prefs? I'm currently using Atomic, which i like a lot, but no cookie mgmt (private mode only) or proxy.
 

leeland

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Unfortunately, the ATV 3 isn't jailbroken and there is no word if and when it will be. You might be better off selling it and putting that money towards a Western Digital TV Live which can stream 1080p MKVs.


Pardon the dumb question...but why is that the only device (that I know of) that hasn't been jailbroken?
 

Eug

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Relatively simple hardware and software on stripped down version of iOS 6 with no known exploits. The more complicated the device and OS, the more chance to exploit.
 

Ichinisan

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Relatively simple hardware and software on stripped down version of iOS 6 with no known exploits. The more complicated the device and OS, the more chance to exploit.

I just don't understand why my ATV3 update the other day took over 4 hours. Wired 30m Internet connection.
 

Eug

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Dunno, but my last ATV2 update was much, much shorter than that.
 

Ichinisan

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Dunno, but my last ATV2 update was much, much shorter than that.

Through the first few hours, it said "preparing update..." With a SLOOOOOOWLY progressing progress bar and a warning that I had better not unplug it. Not sure what its doing when it "prepares" a update. I had to compare pictures taken hours apart to tell that the progress bar was moving at all.

Then I left while it was still less than halfway. The update had apparently just finished when I returned hours later (ATV automatically switched from screen saver to sleep mode a few minutes after I got home).
 

Eug

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Maybe it just took the download a very long time. (I can't remember where in the process the download occurs, but characteristically in the first day or so of a new OS, the downloads are often very slow.)
 

bearxor

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I try to install some of these various JB things every so often just to try it out. I've just tried lockinfo for about a week and man was it disappointing. With a stick set up, I'm able to have notifications show up on the lock screen and when I unlock, they go away. They're not in the notification center and they don't stay on the lock screen. With lock info, they persist until you clear them.

This is one of my complaints about the notification system on Android. It demands my attention. I shouldn't have to "work" on acknowledging notifications. I should see them and they should go away. Today, I unlocked my phone and deleted the email I got overnight and turned my phone off to take a shower. Got dressed and when I turned my phone back on, the email notifications were still on the lock screen. From email that doesn't exist. I can turn off the notifications but then I won't see them at all so what's the point?

I'm uninstalling it now. I'll go back to stock. The one thing I kind of liked was the combined time/weather widget, but I think I can get that without lockinfo.
 

ControlD

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I try to install some of these various JB things every so often just to try it out. I've just tried lockinfo for about a week and man was it disappointing. With a stick set up, I'm able to have notifications show up on the lock screen and when I unlock, they go away. They're not in the notification center and they don't stay on the lock screen. With lock info, they persist until you clear them.

This is one of my complaints about the notification system on Android. It demands my attention. I shouldn't have to "work" on acknowledging notifications. I should see them and they should go away. Today, I unlocked my phone and deleted the email I got overnight and turned my phone off to take a shower. Got dressed and when I turned my phone back on, the email notifications were still on the lock screen. From email that doesn't exist. I can turn off the notifications but then I won't see them at all so what's the point?

I'm uninstalling it now. I'll go back to stock. The one thing I kind of liked was the combined time/weather widget, but I think I can get that without lockinfo.

Lockinfo was more of a "must have" before Apple added the notification shade. I don't use it anymore either.

Personally, just having BiteSMS is enough reason for me to jailbreak. Once you get used to a properly implemented messaging system (which neither iOS or Android has IMO) then it is hard to go back.

The rest of the stuff like real widgets, better hardware control, customization is just icing on the cake.
 

bearxor

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Lockinfo was more of a "must have" before Apple added the notification shade. I don't use it anymore either.

Personally, just having BiteSMS is enough reason for me to jailbreak. Once you get used to a properly implemented messaging system (which neither iOS or Android has IMO) then it is hard to go back.

The rest of the stuff like real widgets, better hardware control, customization is just icing on the cake.

Yeah, biteSMS was essentially the only reason I jailbroke. But with the upgrade to the iPhone 5 I wasn't missing it too much simply because the phone was so fast. It's still wonderful to have though. I've submitted a couple of times to apple.com/feedback that they just need to outright buy the company and integrate it. It's been 4 years now and nothing's come even remotely close.

I still do like to try things out every so often though. I never liked MobileNotifier and they bought that and integrated it. Come on Apple!
 

Kev

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what do you guys use biteSMS for? I gave it a try and couldn't see any reason why I'd pay $8 for it.
 

ControlD

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what do you guys use biteSMS for? I gave it a try and couldn't see any reason why I'd pay $8 for it.

Being able to text and/or reply to texts from anywhere is the main reason I use it. It seems silly to me to have to close my current app, open the messaging app, send a message, close the messaging app and re-open my original app every time I need to respond to a text message. With biteSMS I can respond or even compose a message without ever leaving my currently running app. That alone is worth the $8 to me. Being able to text from the lock screen is pretty nice as well.
 

Ichinisan

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Being able to text and/or reply to texts from anywhere is the main reason I use it. It seems silly to me to have to close my current app, open the messaging app, send a message, close the messaging app and re-open my original app every time I need to respond to a text message. With biteSMS I can respond or even compose a message without ever leaving my currently running app. That alone is worth the $8 to me. Being able to text from the lock screen is pretty nice as well.

Does not make sense.

The non-Jailbreak way:
  • Use the notification center or the banner to tap the message.
  • Respond to the message.
  • Double-tap the home button to activate the switcher and switch to the most recent app.

Not very intrusive at all.

Instead of doing the normal slide-to-unlock, you can slide specific notifications on the lock screen to go directly to the app...even directly to the selected conversation. That's basically the same as "responding from the lock screen."

This is all native functionality.
 

ControlD

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Does not make sense.

The non-Jailbreak way:
  • Use the notification center or the banner to tap the message.
  • Respond to the message.
  • Double-tap the home button to activate the switcher and switch to the most recent app.

Not very intrusive at all.

Instead of doing the normal slide-to-unlock, you can slide specific notifications on the lock screen to go directly to the app...even directly to the selected conversation. That's basically the same as "responding from the lock screen."

This is all native functionality.

But you still have to leave the app you are in which is my point. When you tap to respond it closes your current app. I don't see the reason that needs to occur at all, and it does not when you use a third party app like biteSMS. It may not be intrusive to you, but it bugs the crap out of me.

Responding from the lock screen is just that. If I get a text when the phone is locked I simply type a response and send it. No slide required, no having to go directly to an app. It is not the same at all.

I'm sure things have changed with messaging since I started using a jailbroken phone so perhaps it is easier now. I did use a non jailbroken phone on iOS 5 for several months however and messaging sucked compared to the jailbroken way. Just my opinion of course, but that is all I have to go on.
 
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TheStu

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But you still have to leave the app you are in which is my point. When you tap to respond it closes your current app. I don't see the reason that needs to occur at all, and it does not when you use a third party app like biteSMS. It may not be intrusive to you, but it bugs the crap out of me.

Responding from the lock screen is just that. If I get a text when the phone is locked I simply type a response and send it. No slide required, no having to go directly to an app. It is not the same at all.

I'm sure things have changed with messaging since I started using a jailbroken phone so perhaps it is easier now. I did use a non jailbroken phone on iOS 5 for several months however and messaging sucked compared to the jailbroken way. Just my opinion of course, but that is all I have to go on.

Sliding the notification jumps you straight into the app, it is literally that fast. Unlock, and start typing.

But hey, if you found a solution to something that bugs you, more power to you. Half the stuff running on my work laptop at any given time is just there to deal with things that annoy me about Windows (can't scroll inactive windows, no multi-desktops, things stealing focus, no second taskbar when on dual monitors, no aero-snap for XP, etc.)
 

bearxor

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Does not make sense.

The non-Jailbreak way:
  • Use the notification center or the banner to tap the message.
  • Respond to the message.
  • Double-tap the home button to activate the switcher and switch to the most recent app.

Not very intrusive at all.
It's not very intrusive, but consider this:
Tap the notification, a popup window overlays over what you're currently doing
Respond to the message

And I've just eliminated two button presses and a tap.

Instead of doing the normal slide-to-unlock, you can slide specific notifications on the lock screen to go directly to the app...even directly to the selected conversation. That's basically the same as "responding from the lock screen."

This is all native functionality.
I will grant you that this is pretty close. The speed of the iPhone 5 was one of the reasons I wasn't REALLY missing BiteSMS. It was working significantly faster than my iPhone 4, and so I mostly lived with it. But being able to swipe across and respond to a message without ever leaving the lock screen, even being able to see past conversation history, is terribly convenient. Security concerns if you just leave your phone out of sight very often though.
 

CZroe

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It's not very intrusive, but consider this:
Tap the notification, a popup window overlays over what you're currently doing
Respond to the message

And I've just eliminated two button presses and a tap.

There's a reason they call it the "lock screen" even without a password. It is designed to present information while being insensitive to errant touches. It isn't supposed to respond to touch without a specific gesture (swipe of a specific slider or double-tap Home). Responding to a text with the same gesture as unlocking accomplishes this function while retaining the function of the lock screen. If you get a text while your phone is with you and the screen is locked, there is a good chance that it's in your pocket. Between iOS 2-4 I've experienced it unlocking itself a few times even with all of the safeguards it has and no additional sliders or handles on the lock screen. Now we have camera/gallery shortcuts, notification shortcuts, the slider, etc and you are asking for MORE?! We can't have too many sliders and handles on the screen of else it will more easily misinterpret what you want as it touches your leg or as you attempt to extract it from your pocket (often with no knowledge of which side is the touch-sensitive one). The way most apps behave, nothing is actually "closed," even if the state is saved and the process stopped (RARELY when simply responding to a text), so we are arguing semantics. Because you can read the text and decide if you want to respond without leaving (I like that word better) the app, functionality is very similar to a pop-up. The main difference is not witnessing something the app would otherwise present live or having to stop playback of a video or something. Pausing is often preferred and most information you want to see in real-time or when finished are also deliverable in real-time by notification (same as the text).

I tried BiteSMS with iOS4 and hated all the glitches and crashes it caused. I'd rather deal with the other quirks and use improved iOS5/6 messaging. Of course, I've been on Android exclusively since 2011.
 

ControlD

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There's a reason they call it the "lock screen" even without a password. It is designed to present information while being insensitive to errant touches. It isn't supposed to respond to touch without a specific gesture (swipe of a specific slider or double-tap Home). Responding to a text with the same gesture as unlocking accomplishes this function while retaining the function of the lock screen. If you get a text while your phone is with you and the screen is locked, there is a good chance that it's in your pocket. Between iOS 2-4 I've experienced it unlocking itself a few times even with all of the safeguards it has and no additional sliders or handles on the lock screen. Now we have camera/gallery shortcuts, notification shortcuts, the slider, etc and you are asking for MORE?! We can't have too many sliders and handles on the screen of else it will more easily misinterpret what you want as it touches your leg or as you attempt to extract it from your pocket (often with no knowledge of which side is the touch-sensitive one). The way most apps behave, nothing is actually "closed," even if the state is saved and the process stopped (RARELY when simply responding to a text), so we are arguing semantics. Because you can read the text and decide if you want to respond without leaving (I like that word better) the app, functionality is very similar to a pop-up. The main difference is not witnessing something the app would otherwise present live or having to stop playback of a video or something. Pausing is often preferred and most information you want to see in real-time or when finished are also deliverable in real-time by notification (same as the text).

I tried BiteSMS with iOS4 and hated all the glitches and crashes it caused. I'd rather deal with the other quirks and use improved iOS5/6 messaging. Of course, I've been on Android exclusively since 2011.

The part of the post you quoted was not describing the lock screen behavior of BiteSMS but rather the normal way of responding to a text. You save two button presses and a tap for every text you respond to (assuming you do not have the messaging app open at the time) while actively using the phone. I can understand people not wanting the lock screen functionality and you can certainly turn that off with a simple toggle in the options.

The app has come a long way since iOS4. For me it went from a somewhat nice but buggy program to something that would potentially keep me from purchasing an iPhone in the future if a jailbreak became impossible.