Internet Posting Removal Act - Another butthurt Democrat

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PokerGuy

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Amusing to watch some of you whine about OP (correctly) identifying it as a democrat submitted bill. When some idiot says something stupid about rape or whatever topic, there's a bunch of posts about republicans and their 'war on women' and other such tripe. When a slew of democrats all over the country make unbelievably stupid statements about gun control (hey, use a pen, or maybe fire your shotgun in the air illegally a couple of times!), then of course we shouldn't use a broad brush.

Lets not forget about our pal Earnest Smith, a democrat who wants to criminalize photochopping pics. Silverstein, Smith and their ilk are all alike, they want to squash any freedoms that could result in people doing things they don't like. And no, I don't think repubs are any better, but it's funny to see lefties whine about someone doing the same thing they usually do.
 

Ausm

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Oh here you go. You get in BoberFett's shit about trolling when the forum is full of trolls and you are guilty of the same. How many threads did you troll because Incorruptable "trolled"? Wasn't that the reasoning you used? How about you judge yourself first before others? Easy to point fingers but hard to hold yourself to the same standard. Your only defense is calling me a troll? As if that will deflect from your own self righteous behavior. Show us how much integrity you have. Respond by admitting that you trolled Incorruptable because he was trolling and I'll drop it. You won't because you are "too respected" here and that might hurt your little standing. Let's see the heart of "Don Vito Corleone" now.....I'm not holding my breath.

I don't know whether I am particularly "respected" here - that is for others to judge. I try to be a good citizen here and respect this forum and its members because I value this community.

As to your question, this is really a semantic issue regarding what "trolling" means. I will readily admit I found Incorruptible's threads, at best, clutter, and since they were overwhelmingly Islamophobic trash I would in fact call them sheer bigotry. In the interest of deterring him from posting more of them I repeatedly discouraged others from posting in them by posting this image (or variants of it):

Dont-feed-the-troll.jpg


I will readily admit my posts were not on topic, because I thought the topics were bogus and posted only to incite bigotry. If you want to call that trolling (a word which has no established dictionary definition), I was trolling. I myself would not call that trolling, I'd call it attempting to blunt the effects of trolling by Incorruptible. I think the OP in this instance is trolling because he is using what isn't really a partisan issue into yet another of his endless stream of "Democrats are evil idiots" posts. I think that is counter-productive in a political discussion forum.

I find it strange you are consuming so much energy on me and my posting history. I don't know you or even know who you are.
 

umbrella39

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Don anyone who calls out someone for overtly trolling their own OP becomes a troll themselves and in PC's mind and a much, much bigger problem to the boards and the world in general. I really don't know how he reconciles that he, himself is doing the exact same thing to you, just once more removed...
 

NoStateofMind

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I don't know whether I am particularly "respected" here - that is for others to judge. I try to be a good citizen here and respect this forum and its members because I value this community.

If you valued it so much then why troll the trolls? You sure have a good time getting on others for trolling but when you do it "In my mind its not". LOL you gotta be kidding me.

As to your question, this is really a semantic issue regarding what "trolling" means.

That's BS. You and everyone has access to the internet for a definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]

I will readily admit I found Incorruptible's threads, at best, clutter, and since they were overwhelmingly Islamophobic trash I would in fact call them sheer bigotry. In the interest of deterring him from posting more of them I repeatedly discouraged others from posting in them by posting this image (or variants of it):

Which is trolling in itself.

I will readily admit my posts were not on topic, because I thought the topics were bogus and posted only to incite bigotry. If you want to call that trolling (a word which has no established dictionary definition), I was trolling.

Its not what "I" want to call it. Its the definition. Nice try squirming out of that one.

I myself would not call that trolling, I'd call it attempting to blunt the effects of trolling by Incorruptible. I think the OP in this instance is trolling because he is using what isn't really a partisan issue into yet another of his endless stream of "Democrats are evil idiots" posts. I think that is counter-productive in a political discussion forum.

Of course you wouldn't. I knew you didn't have it in you.

I find it strange you are consuming so much energy on me and my posting history. I don't know you or even know who you are.

Not much energy needed to read and take mental notes. You seem to have done the same with Incorruptable.

Knowing each other is irrelevant and quite frankly I'm thankful. You got after Boberfett for what you do yourself and are unable to admit it was wrong. This is where pot meets kettle.
 

klinc

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And what do we do with defamation or libel? Why do we enforce it in some forms of media but not others?

Digital harassment is another problem which is still being sorted out. If you mailed an anonymous letter with a return address containing half of what's said on this forum every day you would definitely receive a visit from the police.

Please do not take this as an endorsement of the bill.

If we want to understand freedom of expression we need to be able to differentiate between criticism and censorship.
 
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If you valued it so much then why troll the trolls? You sure have a good time getting on others for trolling but when you do it "In my mind its not". LOL you gotta be kidding me.

I don't think of Wikipedia as a primary source (that isn't really what it's for), but yes, if that is "the" definition of trolling, I was trolling.

Why are you so preoccupied with me? I don't know who you are or care to. If you find my posts so distressing I suggest you ignore me.
 

werepossum

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I don't think this is a good idea, but I also don't see how it's a partisan issue, and think both the OP and its title are trolling.

Anonymous Internet posts are legally interesting because the anonymity of the Internet makes it possible to post defamatory things about a person without retribution. I am OK with having a discussion regarding the ramifications of that, but I don't think this is something that should be regulated. I would think most forum hosts and ISPs would probably remove anonymous, disparaging comments about a person upon that person's request anyway, for fear of being sued for defamation.
They certainly are interesting. Like Dave, I choose to make my real name available. However, Joe the Plumber can demonstrate the perils of that approach if one falls afoul of those in government. Other people may have legal, business or other valid reasons not to reveal their names. As Bobber Fett says, in political speech the views of the minority can be crushed - which is important because most good ideas start out as a minority opinion.

Yeah, it's a stupid bill, but it's also one that directly benefits politicians. Never underestimate a politician's stupidity on something that benefits him; they're crazy like foxes.
 
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irishScott

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So even if this bill passes, it would only have effect in Illinois? So Illinois is trying to run out web-hosts in addition to every other business... good plan there!
 

ch33zw1z

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Bill creators are whiny babies, don't like what the internet says? stay off the internet...
 

ivwshane

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If you valued it so much then why troll the trolls? You sure have a good time getting on others for trolling but when you do it "In my mind its not". LOL you gotta be kidding me.



That's BS. You and everyone has access to the internet for a definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)





Which is trolling in itself.



Its not what "I" want to call it. Its the definition. Nice try squirming out of that one.



Of course you wouldn't. I knew you didn't have it in you.



Not much energy needed to read and take mental notes. You seem to have done the same with Incorruptable.

Knowing each other is irrelevant and quite frankly I'm thankful. You got after Boberfett for what you do yourself and are unable to admit it was wrong. This is where pot meets kettle.


Quoted for irony;)


It's a stupid bill and if democrat politicians start supporting this kind of crap along with the no photoshop crap then the party will become a joke just like the Republican Party is currently.