Intellectual capability of career welfare individuals

Texashiker

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This morning I posted a thread in off topic about my chicken pecked my hand.

As I was making the post, I started thinking about the chicken that pecked my hand, and people who make a career out of welfare.

I bought the chick when it was a couple of days old. For the past 5 months I have fed, watered, protected, and even built the chickens (13 chickens in all) a nice coop with an enclosed run.

The way I treated my chickens is "about" the same way the government treats those on welfare. The government feeds, protects and gives welfare recipients a place to live.

Instead of appreciating what has been given to them, both the chickens and the welfare recipients pecks the hand that feeds it.

There is a reason why chickens are called bird brained. They can not comprehend anything outside of their natural instincts.

Where does this leave people who bring crime, drugs and violence into poverty ridden areas? Are those people unable to comprehend what would happen if the government stopped providing those benefits?

When I was closing the coop up, it was right at dark. The chickens were starting to get into the roost and settle down for the night. I took the chicken that pecked at my hand, set it outside the coop on the ground. The chicken did not know what to do. It was on the ground when it knew it was supposed to be in the roost, and it was away from its friends. The chicken just stood there. I picked the chicken up and placed it back into the coop.

What would happen if the government suddenly withdrew welfare benefits? How would the people react that know no other way of life?
 
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cybrsage

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What would happen if the government suddenly withdrew welfare benefits? How would the people react that know no other way of life?

They would riot and burn down their neighbor's homes and the local businesses in a rage against people who live far away from them.
 

zsdersw

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They would recall the elected representatives that took away the benefits and elect any politician that promises to restore them.
 

SlitheryDee

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Say you chose a person randomly and gave them $20 every morning for 10 years straight. Then after 10 years you suddenly stop. Do you think they'd be grateful to you for the 10 years of getting $20 every morning that they did nothing for, or pissed at you for stopping?
 

nehalem256

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Where does this leave people who bring crime, drugs and violence into poverty ridden areas? Are those people unable to comprehend what would happen if the government stopped providing those benefits?

Why do you think they have so many children to use as hostages to get benefits from the government?
 

manimal

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They would recall the elected representatives that took away the benefits and elect any politician that promises to restore them.

This. What amazes me is the sheer amount of time some people waste thinking about shut that has no relevance to their daily lives. Just because you once saw a pimp buy food with food stamps doesn't mean that all people on assistance are the same.


Frankly I find it appalling that today my state announced that child poverty is at 22 percent after being in single digits a decade ago. That's what im thinking about this morning.
 

xj0hnx

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They would recall the elected representatives that took away the benefits and elect any politician that promises to restore them.

Except the welfare state alone would not have the sway to recall/elect someone.
 

Texashiker

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Frankly I find it appalling that today my state announced that child poverty is at 22 percent after being in single digits a decade ago. That's what im thinking about this morning.

Have you seen the movie Germinal? If you have not seen the movie, I highly recommend it.

Why is poverty on the uptick? I think its because of free trade with china. Instead of the iphone being made in the USA, its made in china, along with everything else.
 

zsdersw

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Except the welfare state alone would not have the sway to recall/elect someone.

I think you vastly underestimate the number of people who comprise the welfare state. Many say they want welfare cuts for others, but not for themselves; unaware of how much "welfare" in all the various facets of life the government provides them.
 

werepossum

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I think you vastly underestimate the number of people who comprise the welfare state. Many say they want welfare cuts for others, but not for themselves; unaware of how much "welfare" in all the various facets of life the government provides them.
This is our problem in a nutshell. All our spending has constituencies, except maybe foreign aid. Almost every constituency is in favor of increasing its own spending but cutting most others, whether it's personal welfare, corporate welfare, defense spending, or whatever.
 
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This. What amazes me is the sheer amount of time some people waste thinking about shut that has no relevance to their daily lives. Just because you once saw a pimp buy food with food stamps doesn't mean that all people on assistance are the same.


Frankly I find it appalling that today my state announced that child poverty is at 22 percent after being in single digits a decade ago. That's what im thinking about this morning.

The two things go hand in hand. Many of the same welfare recipients are the ones having massive amounts of children. Hence why so many children live in poverty.
 

Texashiker

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This is our problem in a nutshell. All our spending has constituencies, except maybe foreign aid. Almost every constituency is in favor of increasing its own spending but cutting most others, whether it's personal welfare, corporate welfare, defense spending, or whatever.

Sooner or later the government is going to run out of money.


The two things go hand in hand. Many of the same welfare recipients are the ones having massive amounts of children. Hence why so many children live in poverty.

Yep.

More children = more benefits
 
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I think you vastly underestimate the number of people who comprise the welfare state. Many say they want welfare cuts for others, but not for themselves; unaware of how much "welfare" in all the various facets of life the government provides them.

Please let me in on the welfare the govt is providing me? Im literally being raped because my wife and I work and do halfway decent and don't have children. Sometimes I truly wonder if I'd be better off finding a shitty job and having my wife stay home and pop out kids and soaking up the free healthcare and food and all the free time I'd have.
 

momeNt

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People died of starvation left and right before we started welfare and social security. Tuesday was garbage day, and Wednesday was dead people pickup day, because we couldn't afford to feed the elderly or unemployed.

Do you really want to go back to that?
 
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People died of starvation left and right before we started welfare and social security. Tuesday was garbage day, and Wednesday was dead people pickup day, because we couldn't afford to feed the elderly or unemployed.

Do you really want to go back to that?

Elderly? No.
Sit at home, collect welfare, and smoke dope crowd? Yes.
 

Texashiker

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People died of starvation left and right before we started welfare and social security. Tuesday was garbage day, and Wednesday was dead people pickup day, because we couldn't afford to feed the elderly or unemployed.

Do you really want to go back to that?

Lets not use blanket statements.

There are people out there that would rather starve then go to work.

Then there are people who get down on their luck and need some help.

For the people that refuse to work, yes, we should let those people starve. Welfare should be a helping hand, and not a way of life.
 

momeNt

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Racists, the lot of you.

I'm just kidding. Once you have a system in place like welfare people actually seek that out like any other income.
 

xj0hnx

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I think you vastly underestimate the number of people who comprise the welfare state. Many say they want welfare cuts for others, but not for themselves; unaware of how much "welfare" in all the various facets of life the government provides them.

They would actually have to get to a voting booth.
 

Texashiker

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Once you have a system in place like welfare people actually seek that out like any other income.

This is a true story from a family I know.

Mom and dad have 5 kids and have been on welfare for close to 20 years.

One of the children has been diagnosed as being bio-polar, 18 years old, receiving social security disability.

The 18 year old young lady has a baby.

The grandmother of the baby is trying to take the infant away from the mom. The grandmother (the same one that got her daughter on disability) claims her daughter is unfit.

Whats sad, when the daughter reached 18 years old, and the mom could no longer claim her on welfare, the mom is trying to latch onto the grandchild to get more benefits from the state.

Its generation after generation of children being leveraged to get benefits from the state.

The grandmother would rather take the grandchild away from the mom then to get a job.
 

Moonbeam

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When my chicken pecked my hand today I thought how like him I am full of ingratitude and distain for the life I was given, for the infinite blessings I have received. Then I think too that from my chickens I get meat and eggs and that's the reason I tolerate being pecked on the hand, and all the work I do to care for them. But because I KNOW I'm a worthless and ungreatful blight on the universe because that is how I was made to feel, even though and despite the fact that I created God in my real self's image, I tend to see things in this way rather than project these feelings onto others just to give me a temporary and also worthless feeling of how superior I am. I call this humility, a trait that gets easily lost today, a recognition that all my need to feel superior to others and wallow in that is because I actually feel worthless. I am a worthless nothing that will pass into dust, but I once had the infinite pleasure of being pecked by myself. The only thing that is more worthless than the worthless are those who think they have value because they don't see how worthless they are. If you do not feel how crippled you are, how will you heal?

Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth.

This is the law of the universe and it can't be overwritten. You can either see it of live in denial. We are all the same.
 

cybrsage

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Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth...but will they want the smoking ruin that is left over once the bold are done with it? :)
 

Texashiker

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When my chicken pecked my hand today I thought how like him I am full of ingratitude and distain for the life I was given, for the infinite blessings I have received. Then I think too that from my chickens I get meat and eggs and that's the reason I tolerate being pecked on the hand, and all the work I do to care for them. But because I KNOW I'm a worthless and ungreatful blight on the universe because that is how I was made to feel, even though and despite the fact that I created God in my real self's image, I tend to see things in this way rather than project these feelings onto others just to give me a temporary and also worthless feeling of how superior I am. I call this humility, a trait that gets easily lost today, a recognition that all my need to feel superior to others and wallow in that is because I actually feel worthless. I am a worthless nothing that will pass into dust, but I once had the infinite pleasure of being pecked by myself. The only thing that is more worthless than the worthless are those who think they have value because they don't see how worthless they are. If you do not feel how crippled you are, how will you heal?

Is that your original work, or a copy, paste, edit?

But either way, it is thought provoking.