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The real question here is: are people willing to spring for Z370 when it's a one-off platform for only Coffeelake? Wait awhile longer for Z390 + Coffeelake and you get compatibility with Icelake plus some extra features (if you care).

I can't help but think that Intel messed up by announcing so much about Z390 so far in advance.
 
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DrMrLordX said:
The real question here is: are people willing to spring for Z370 when it's a one-off platform for only Coffeelake? Wait awhile longer for Z390 + Coffeelake and you get compatibility with Icelake plus some extra features (if you care).

I can't help but think that Intel messed up by announcing so much about Z390 so far in advance.
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Intel hasn't announced Z390.
 
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I think the Z390 is half a year away or longer, so to answer the question. Yes I'm willing to buy a Z370. To be honest, I have never just swapped out a CPU anyway.
 
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Ok, after further discussion, sweepr will create new threads and links to other places.

Unlocking based on this promise for now.
 
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DrMrLordX said:
The real question here is: are people willing to spring for Z370 when it's a one-off platform for only Coffeelake? Wait awhile longer for Z390 + Coffeelake and you get compatibility with Icelake plus some extra features (if you care).

I can't help but think that Intel messed up by announcing so much about Z390 so far in advance.
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I am, because I won't move to another new platform until at least Tiger Lake and maybe even Sapphire Rapid if that's the way to go.

Ah a new thread, missed that sorry (not at my brightest at 5 in the morning).
 
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DrMrLordX said:
The real question here is: are people willing to spring for Z370 when it's a one-off platform for only Coffeelake? Wait awhile longer for Z390 + Coffeelake and you get compatibility with Icelake plus some extra features (if you care).

I can't help but think that Intel messed up by announcing so much about Z390 so far in advance.
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Who says Z390 will be compatibility with IceLake? That's pure speculation.
On my part I do not think that they will make IL on the same socket, and we do know that Z390 is also LGA1511 so...

Plus, this is hardware, if you "wait for the right moment" you'll never be done.
It all boils down to what do you have currently. If you have a 6xxxx or 7xxx then well, yeah, its pretty obvious that moving to 8xxx may not be the right choice, but I think if you have 5xxx or less, its debatable.

I'm not even taking into account people with AMD rigs as I consider that for them to switch to intel is ALWAYS good :p
 
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And they are bottlenecked in bandwidth in some codes, as indicated in the Epyc reviews. I think an 18c at 4.5Ghz could be even more restrained by quad-channel in a similar code environment.
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It's possible, HEDT running cpu and memory clocks higher than xeon could still be bottlenecked. I haven't come across one yet, but I expect somebody will do 7980x memory scaling test eventually.
 
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Does anyone know please, whether Seasonic X-series 750W Gold has 2 of those 8-pin CPU cables? I ordered today 7940x and Gigabyte Aorus 7, but if the PSU does not have those 2 cables, i might have as well go with Aorus 3 or any other single 8-pin board.

The other, more important thing, will that PSU suffice for that CPU? :D Stock clocks no doubts, but in case of overclocking - i would like to run it at least at 4,3.
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Yes on 2x 8pin cpu cables. Techspot has 7960x at 4.3 having 500w system power consumption. Either way, with other hardware you might be running, my suggestion would be to adapt the psu to the components instead of the other way around.
 
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Yes on 2x 8pin cpu cables. Techspot has 7960x at 4.3 having 500w system power consumption. Either way, with other hardware you might be running, my suggestion would be to adapt the psu to the components instead of the other way around.
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Yeah, that 750w psu is really cutting it close, especially if gaming is involved.
 
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DrMrLordX said:
The real question here is: are people willing to spring for Z370 when it's a one-off platform for only Coffeelake? Wait awhile longer for Z390 + Coffeelake and you get compatibility with Icelake plus some extra features (if you care).

I can't help but think that Intel messed up by announcing so much about Z390 so far in advance.
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Haswell / Z97 was a one off platform as well, the 4770K still sold well despite no obvious upgrade path (4790K doesn't really count as its essentially a speed bump)

I think enthusiasts will still embrace Z370 because it will be the fastest mainstream Intel platform for the next year... what else are enthusiasts supposed to buy for the next 12 months? X299? Z390 is realistically a year away probably, 2H 2018 doesn't mean it's going to release on July 1st, technically Intel could release it on Dec 31 and it would still count as 2H 2018.
 
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epsilon84 said:
Haswell / Z97 was a one off platform as well, the 4770K still sold well despite no obvious upgrade path (4790K doesn't really count as its essentially a speed bump)

I think enthusiasts will still embrace Z370 because it will be the fastest mainstream Intel platform for the next year... what else are enthusiasts supposed to buy for the next 12 months? X299? Z390 is realistically a year away probably, 2H 2018 doesn't mean it's going to release on July 1st, technically Intel could release it on Dec 31 and it would still count as 2H 2018.
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You forgot 5775c, so basically Haswell then Haswell OCed & Broadwell.
 
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epsilon84 said:
Indeed, I stand corrected. Still, at the time of Z97 I don't think there was a guaranteed upgrade path to Broadwell, was there?
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Yes, generally a new chipset support at least two gens of core processors. The Z370 might be the only exception I can think of in recent times.
 
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epsilon84 said:
Haswell / Z97 was a one off platform as well, the 4770K still sold well despite no obvious upgrade path (4790K doesn't really count as its essentially a speed bump)

I think enthusiasts will still embrace Z370 because it will be the fastest mainstream Intel platform for the next year... what else are enthusiasts supposed to buy for the next 12 months? X299? Z390 is realistically a year away probably, 2H 2018 doesn't mean it's going to release on July 1st, technically Intel could release it on Dec 31 and it would still count as 2H 2018.
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I believe you are thinking of Intel 8 series chipsets such as z87. 8 series chipsets only supported Haswell and Haswell Refresh. Broadwell did not officially support those chipsets.

https://ark.intel.com/products/88040/Intel-Core-i7-5775C-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

If you go down to compatible products only z97 and h97 chipsets are listed as supported.
 
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