Definitely. I think the 7700k will still be faster, I just want to see how close I am getting.I'm just messing.
Now if that other guy posts his results... game on.
Coffee Lake should be an 8/16 chip. 6/12 is just a weak stop gap solution compared to the competition. Also, Coffee Lake will certainly be priced like an 8/16 chip anyway, so.
Early hours of overclocking. Getting some good results. 4.8GHz across all 8 cores at 1.27volts on average. I say on average because I'm using offset voltages (I like some power savings). Lowest core is 1.266, core 4 likes a little more voltage apparently at 1.285 volts. Have the MESH overclocked to 3.0GHz from 2.4GHz. Hitting 83C max.
It would seem that VRM's overheating on X299 is seriously blown out of proportion. Highest temp I am getting on my motherboard is 76C. Though I do think the Gigabyte Gaming 9 is the best motherboard in terms of VRM heatsinks.
So far I am impressed. Max overclock I could get on my 6700K was 4.6GHz. This thing has double the core count and is achieving a higher overclock. From 3.6GHz base clock to 4.8GHz is impressive imo, a 1.2GHz overclock on a 8 core CPU.
Whats everyone using for stress testing? I'm using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Thats always been my go to stress test software.
Tell me, what are your thoughts on the Gaming 9's BIOS? I have an Aorus X370 Gaming K5 and was horrified by how slow and clunky it was. I'd like to consider higher-end Gigabyte boards for my next build but am a bit reluctant because of my K5 experience.
Also, are you saying you hit 83 MAX with all 8 cores overclocked while running the Intel stress test? That is incredibly impressive IMO if that is the case.
I don't know that I'd go that far. 6c/12t is something Intel should have rolled out back in 2016 as a preemptive strike against whatever it was AMD was going to launch as Ryzen, but at the same time I don't think it's "weak" today.
Compare it to Skylake-X. It's pretty obvious that Coffeelake is the logical upgrade for anyone on Intel 4c/8t today, and it's also exactly what x99 owners should want if they were on 6c/12t systems previously. Skylake-X has a completely different performance balance than their previous HEDT and mainstream lineup, while Coffeelake does not.
It's a rational product. Many Intel fans are going to like/love it. Not much else to say.
4c is to low corecount for min in the newest aaa like bf1 and 6c cl is excactly what is needed to solve that.Coffee Lake should be an 8/16 chip. 6/12 is just a weak stop gap solution compared to the competition. Also, Coffee Lake will certainly be priced like an 8/16 chip anyway, so.
Coffee Lake should be an 8/16 chip. 6/12 is just a weak stop gap solution compared to the competition. Also, Coffee Lake will certainly be priced like an 8/16 chip anyway, so.
Maybe you should tell AMD that, since 7700k is what they chose to demo Vega.4c is to low corecount for min in the newest aaa like bf1 and 6c cl is excactly what is needed to solve that.
It will sell very well if its at or below 380usd. Its got a clear win in gaming and that segment is huge and by far most important for desktop.
10nm will not make any difference for perf and probably neither will ipc. Intel will have this gaming segment covered until at least zen 2 at 7nm high perf ibm process arives.
At that time they better have something radically new ready.
Skl x is forgotten the day cl 6c arives. Outside of avx loads i cant see what Intel have to offer for professionals loads with a 1950 at 999usd and a 32c epyc at 2100 usd for the highend hedt segment. The 7800 and 7820x does have a purpose for the in between workloads that mostly tilts towards gaming but imo lets get back to this in 2 months. I guess sklx is all forgotton and 6c cl is all over.
Nah, it would feel like a sidestep at best. Personally, i have owned 6-core CPUs since half 2010 (980x and 6850k), no way i would buy another in the future.
Agreed. Plus, they are going to TIM paste the crap out of this thing anyways. So I realize I would have the cost and risk of direct die cooling in addition to paying 8 core prices for a 6 core chip. I automatically disregard any CPU if its been Intel TIM pasted. Won't touch it. If Intel never solders again, then I never buy Intel again. It's just that simple for me.
Good work. That is pretty close to where I am at. I like to use 2hr runs of Realbench and Prime95 to test for stability.Early hours of overclocking. Getting some good results. 4.8GHz across all 8 cores at 1.27volts on average. I say on average because I'm using offset voltages (I like some power savings). Lowest core is 1.266, core 4 likes a little more voltage apparently at 1.285 volts. Have the MESH overclocked to 3.0GHz from 2.4GHz. Hitting 83C max.
It would seem that VRM's overheating on X299 is seriously blown out of proportion. Highest temp I am getting on my motherboard is 76C. Though I do think the Gigabyte Gaming 9 is the best motherboard in terms of VRM heatsinks.
So far I am impressed. Max overclock I could get on my 6700K was 4.6GHz. This thing has double the core count and is achieving a higher overclock. From 3.6GHz base clock to 4.8GHz is impressive imo, a 1.2GHz overclock on a 8 core CPU.
Whats everyone using for stress testing? I'm using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Thats always been my go to stress test software.
This is my first Gigabyte board I've ever had, I usually go with Asus boards, decided to try something different this time. It is not as responsive as the Asus board I last had (Z170i Pro Gaming) but I have gotten used to it. The lag isn't terrible and its not like its unusable. I do like Gigabytes Smartfan features over Asus. I don't know if Asus has improved their fan control software but on my Z170 board I couldn't set fan speeds below 60%. This Gigabyte board allows me to have the fans on my radiator shut off completely at any temperature I want. My PC is completely silent at idle (MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti fans shut off below 55C, PSU fan shuts off below 55C, and CPU fan I have set to not spin until it hits 40C (40% fan speed), it ramps up to 100% fan speed at 75C using a curve. Which is something else I could not get to work on the Asus board. There wasn't any curve with fan speed in the bios, had to use their shitty software and even then it wouldn't work. So my fans on my old build would constantly fluctuate in RPM's, very distracting. On a side note I love how Gigabyte included 2 USB 3.0 headers on the motherboard. One in the usual spot next to the 24 pin power connector (I hate this location, makes for messy cable management), theres also another at the very bottom of the board next to the regular USB 2.0 headers. Can now hide that ugly thick USB connector cable
I am hitting 83C on all 8 cores using Intel Stress Test for 15 minutes.
Agreed. Plus, they are going to TIM paste the crap out of this thing anyways. So I realize I would have the cost and risk of direct die cooling in addition to paying 8 core prices for a 6 core chip. I automatically disregard any CPU if its been Intel TIM pasted. Won't touch it. If Intel never solders again, then I never buy Intel again. It's just that simple for me.
Nah, it would feel like a sidestep at best. Personally, i have owned 6-core CPUs since half 2010 (980x and 6850k), no way i would buy another in the future.
The conundrum for Intel owners as far up as Kabylake was: what to buy? Get four of the best cores that they have to offer, or - if not in the market for a CPU costing more than $400 - get a 6-core CPU using cores that are out of date?
With Coffeelake, Intel users finally get to choose a 6-core that has the best cores available (and for many users, that means cores that are better than Skylake-X, at least for gaming). 7700k users get an upgrade. 6850k users get an upgrade. It is the logical choice, even if it may seem at first like a baby step for the former HEDT owners. Though HEDT buyers will probably like the platform price of 370/390 quite a bit.
If you're a 6850k owner and you move to, let's say, 8 or 10 cores of Skylake-X, you gain some cores but you lose some performance elsewhere - notably in games. Not everyone is going to want to make that compromise.
8700k seems like a good choice for many people, I am surprised to see so many people hating on it. What's not to like? A 6c/12t cpu that will probably OC to around 4.7. This will give excellent gaming performance AND still be pretty good at number crunching and multi-tasking should the need arise. On top of that you can probably pick up a motherboard for a lot cheaper than the x299 platform.
This is the first decent upgrade in the consumer level i7's since the 2600K imo. Everything else since then has been incremental.
Then you will never buy Intel again. Solder is long gone inside of Intel, never to return.
Well, considering the composition and general climate of these forums lately, it is not surprising at all, not that that makes it logical or justified. Objectivity went out the window a long time ago in this forum, replaced with juvenile smack talking and blind allegiance to a certain team.8700k seems like a good choice for many people, I am surprised to see so many people hating on it. What's not to like? A 6c/12t cpu that will probably OC to around 4.7. This will give excellent gaming performance AND still be pretty good at number crunching and multi-tasking should the need arise. On top of that you can probably pick up a motherboard for a lot cheaper than the x299 platform.
This is the first decent upgrade in the consumer level i7's since the 2600K imo. Everything else since then has been incremental.
Definitely. I think the 7700k will still be faster, I just want to see how close I am getting.