Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Sweepr]

Intel's next-gen Skylake-E processor will arrive in LGA 3647 socket

Computex 2016 - During our first day at Computex, we've spotted some seriously cool hardware, but one of our world exclusives is that Intel will be releasing their next-gen Skylake-E processors onto a new motherboard, with more pins than ever before.

Right now the HEDT processors slot into an LGA 2011 motherboard, but the next-gen chips will be slotting into LGA 3647 socket. This is an interesting tidbit, as it means there'll be new motherboards next year when Skylake-E launches, with 1636 more pins. The socket itself is absolutely huge, especially when compared to the already large LGA 2011 socket, and positively massive compared to the current LGA 1151 in the mainstream market.

www.tweaktown.com/news/52336/intels-next-gen-skylake-processor-arrive-lga-3647-socket/index.html

Anyone else on the waiting bandwagon? I decided to skip Broadwell-E.

 

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Intel's next-gen Skylake-E processor will arrive in LGA 3647 socket



www.tweaktown.com/news/52336/intels-next-gen-skylake-processor-arrive-lga-3647-socket/index.html

Anyone else on the waiting bandwagon? I decided to skip Broadwell-E.

Looks like i should probably stop wasting time reading about anything tech until Skylake-E comes out. I just get disappointed like with Broadwell-E's release (Despite having set out to wait for Skylake-E ever since leaked news about mainstream Skylake came out all those years ago).

 

[frozentundra123456]

Now be honest, no one cares about that 3%.

The reason we did care before was that "Tick" brought us substantial clock speed gains and power reduction in addition to the 3% boost.

If we get what we have but 3% faster, who cares?

Your sarcasm detector must be malfunctioning.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Wow. Those chips are gonna be hyuuuuuge.

 

[crashtech]

Hex channel memory????

 

[DrMrLordX]

As a part of their diversity initiative, Intel is now making Wiccans and other neo-Pagans a part of their design team for HEDT CPUs.

 

[mikk]

http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=11053157&postcount=78

Here is another 3dmark11 score from a Skull Canyon NUC, it scored P3702. GPU did run at 950 Mhz in this benchmark he says which is the maximum boost for this SKU. According to some certain troll 65W SKUs won't be faster, however the 65W SKUs can boost up to 1150 Mhz/+21%. It may not scale perfectly but I think +15% is a realistic target because the bandwidth does not appear to be that important in 3dmark11 for a GT4e SKU.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Hey guys I think I am going to go ahead and get a 6700K or should I get a 6800k?
Right now I am using a AMD FX8300 O/C to 4.6Ghz with a EVGA GTX 960SC 4gb Edition and am looking to get something with at least 40% increase in performance and IPC cpu wise. So which is going to give me that now instead of waiting for Zen?
I am wanting to buy today,so no more waiting games this and that.Also this new build will be used for 4k gaming and media encoding so I need Horse power with a capital "H"!! I already had a E5-2670 on x79 platform but it didnt work out for me as it was missing all the Instruction extentions that I needed such as AES,AVX,ECT.. which the AMD FX has.Any Help Would be great.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Hey guys I think I am going to go ahead and get a 6700K or should I get a 6800k?
Right now I am using a AMD FX8300 O/C to 4.6Ghz with a EVGA GTX 960SC 4gb Edition and am looking to get something with at least 40% increase in performance and IPC cpu wise. So which is going to give me that now instead of waiting for Zen?
I am wanting to buy today,so no more waiting games this and that.Also this new build will be used for 4k gaming and media encoding so I need Horse power with a capital "H"!! I already had a E5-2670 on x79 platform but it didnt work out for me as it was missing all the Instruction extentions that I needed such as AES,AVX,ECT.. which the AMD FX has.Any Help Would be great.

I vote for the 6800K, especially because you plan to do media encoding, which is a task that likes to chew up a bunch of cores.

EDIT: This assumes that you will overclock, but given that you are overclocking your 8300, I think that you will

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Wow the tdp on that 6800k is 140w?? thats crazy!! I wonder if going back to a E5-2670 but use a SR0KX stepping for the Instruction set fix would be more worth my while and my hard earned cash? I thought Intel was going to lower the TDP on those x99 chips..
I've got about $700.00 to play with give or take.

 

[SAAA]

Wow the tdp on that 6800k is 140w?? thats crazy!! I wonder if going back to a E5-2670 but use a SR0KX stepping for the Instruction set fix would be more worth my while and my hard earned cash? I thought Intel was going to lower the TDP on those x99 chips..
I've got about $700.00 to play with give or take.

TDP hasn't much to do with power consumption aside from the highest bin chip in that range for Intel: a 6800k probably consumes 20-30% less than 5820k and both won't reach that much unless you stress them under AVX2 loads at higher than base clocks.

Just to give an idea:

That's 10 cores using less than 8, also not even close to 140W when at stock speed

 

[exar333]

TDP hasn't much to do with power consumption aside from the highest bin chip in that range for Intel: a 6800k probably consumes 20-30% less than 5820k and both won't reach that much unless you stress them under AVX2 loads at higher than base clocks.

Just to give an idea:

That's 10 cores using less than 8, also not even close to 140W when at stock speed

:thumbsup:

It is less about the TDP and more about the Ghz (4Ghz+ really increases the power usage) and workload (like you referenced with AVX2).

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Nice.. That 6700k is a beast at only using 1w at idle and only 65w wprime LOL
You got any for benching these 2 in Handbrake and adobe premiere pretty please??

 

[Sweepr]

Intel 2016/2017 Desktop Roadmap

Skylake-X in Q2-2017.
Kabylake-X?

https://benchlife.info/intel-study-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-and-basin-falls-for-skylake-w-06022016

 

[2blzd]

Looks like Skylake-E = Skylake-W


Im starting to understand why the HEDT skylake (w? e? x?) is using the kaby PCH. The Purley platform has way too many new high end server features that just wouldnt make much sense on a DT...its overkill. So now I wonder if HEDT chips are no longer rebranded Xeons..Seems like Intel is splitting up the EP/E

 

[Nothingness]

Hot Chips program is up. There will be a presentation of Skylake microarchitecture.

There are other interesting presetations (such as ARM for HPC), but that's not the place to discuss them

 

[itsmydamnation]

Sux that skylake power9 and Zen only get 90 mins between them

 

[Sweepr]

Gigabyte already teasing Skylake-EP motherboards.

Gigabyte Tease LGA-3647 Skylake-E Socket Server at Computex 2016

We always find a few surprises at events like Computex with products that we might have hoped to see, but didn’t really expect. We spotted one of such surprises in the Gigabyte booth with a pretty much empty sign on top. The only information revealed here are that it is called the G291-H88 mainstream rack server and it’s the “next generation 2U Purley barebond”. Barebond is naturally a typo and should be barebone.

Those who paid attention already noticed the Purley here and not Purely. Purley is Intel’s future enterprise computing business, that is said to become a unification of its 2-socket (2S), 4-socket (4S), and >8-socket (8S+) platforms into one, codenamed Purley.

www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-tease-lga-3647-skylake-e-socket-server-computex-2016

This quote from AnandTech suggests server Zen launches after the APUs. Will Skylake-EP be first to market?

Finally, Dr. Su also reiterated that Zen will be the basis of a range of products for AMD. Along with the desktop CPU, AMD will be using Zen as the basis of their next, 8th generation APU. And further down the line it will be appearing in server products and embedded products as well.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I cant wait for Purley. Skylake-EP+Optane.

 

[Sweepr]

Kabylake-U delivering a 300 MHz (base clock) speed bump from Skylake-U?

Geekbench 3 Scores

Core i7-7500U (Kabylake-U) operating at 2.9 GHz base clock:

Single-Core Score
3468
Multi-Core Score
7500

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/6794985

Core i5-7200U (Kabylake-U) operating at 2.7 GHz base clock:

Single-Core Score
3261
Multi-Core Score
6899

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/6743793

 

[jpiniero]

That's not bad if it's still 15W. The 6567U (28 W) gets about the same as the 7500U.

 

[coolpurplefan]

I doubt that Kaby Lake will be a jump considering the Tick Tock is all off now.

On the bright side, I noticed that the i5-6500 uses 65 watts compared to 84 watts for the i5-4570. At least I know my i5-4570 will be good for a while.

 

[SAAA]

Kabylake-U delivering a 300 MHz (base clock) speed bump from Skylake-U?...

Noticed that a while ago, add the leaked i7-7700 at 3.6-4.2GHz and Kabylake is becoming pretty much a clock bump left and right.

I still hope that they release unlocked chips before mid 2017, a 4.2-4.4GHz 7700k would be better than nothing against a year old 6700k, else Kabylake X must better be a 400MHz bump minimum...

I mean after half a year of silicon improvements and cherry picking they should have enough golden chips to make it possible

Also 2017 should have been 10nm era and possibly 6 core mainstream with Cannonlake but all these delays keep enthusiast from getting just that... a simple quad wouldn't make sense against Skylake 6-cores unless it's stupidly high stock clocks.

 

[jpiniero]

If the Kabylake-X retained the clocks that the 6700K was supposed to have (4.2 full core turbo, 4.4 single core) and included the edram (with or without GT4e) that wouldn't be too bad.

 

[ShintaiDK]

If the Kabylake-X retained the clocks that the 6700K was supposed to have (4.2 full core turbo, 4.4 single core) and included the edram (with or without GT4e) that wouldn't be too bad.

That would be a crazy nice CPU.