Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[zentan]

Cherry-trail and SOFIA losing is not really a surprise but core-M has come a long way off from its initial days.They have been available in as low as 330$ tablets and 2-in-1s and higher. Core-M in laptops though should come down to a lower price segment than it has been selling in the last one and half year or so. While slow execution on part of their cherry-trail and ultimate failure gets stick but the trickling down of Core-M segment to lower price segments also deserves some mention.

Intel had reasons to kill SoFia, but killing Broxton was alright stupid.... Intel could have went with Windows Mobile and finally getting the marketshare they want... If AMD or VIA manages to make an alliance with MS to bring a cheap X86 phone with Win 10 it would be epic to watch.

Windows phone is something that is really tiny to be relevant as things stand now. Their evolution has been very very slow. At the state they have been in last 2 years not many care about it. What future holds for them is another uncertainty.

 

[Sweepr]

Intel's 16nm Kaby Lake processors and 200 series chipsets, which were originally scheduled to be released in June, have recently been delayed to October and motherboard players will not begin producing 200 series-based motherboards until September.

www.digitimes.com/news/a20160523PD202.html

Intel rumored to unveil its new 200-series chipset at Computex

www.tweaktown.com/news/52251/intel-rumored-unveil-new-200-series-chipset-computex/index.html

 

[mikk]

You add 10% for 65W and you end up with 3700.

You must be delusional to believe this. An 65W GT4e SKU with a max boost of 1150 Mhz only 10% faster than a 950 Mhz GT4e at 45W, which is mostly running at ~800 Mhz because of the power limit, just lol. This is such a nonsense. You don't understand the power demand difference between GT4 and GT3. Even if there were a small difference between 47W and 65W on a GT3e device in prior generations, you cannot extrapolate it for a GT4. Is this so hard to understand for you? Don't you see the clock difference? Don't you see the 3dmark11 result of 3624 from ocstation with Singlechannel memory? Are you trolling?

 

[frozentundra123456]

www.digitimes.com/news/a20160523PD202.html

Intel rumored to unveil its new 200-series chipset at Computex

www.tweaktown.com/news/52251/intel-rumored-unveil-new-200-series-chipset-computex/index.html

So the patchwork fix (KL) for the 10nm delay is itself going to be delayed? Seriously? Not that anyone was expecting too much from it, but could mean 10nm will be delayed even further I would think.

 

[Rngwn]

Iris Pro P580 is now for sale! The Xeon E3-1545M and E3-1575M is now offered in HP zBook 15 and 17 respectively. *hype*

zBook 15

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?catalogId=10051&urlLangId=&langId=-1&storeId=10151&catEntryId=1330651&quantity=1

zBook 17

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?catalogId=10051&urlLangId=&langId=-1&storeId=10151&catEntryId=1317651&quantity=1

The price is....exorbitant to say the least. HP could have put in the 1515M and sell at lower price though, what a bummer.

 

[TeknoBug]

Awe no 14" zBook? I'd like 14" so I can pack it around on train/bus.

 

[chucky2]

www.digitimes.com/news/a20160523PD202.html

Intel rumored to unveil its new 200-series chipset at Computex

www.tweaktown.com/news/52251/intel-rumored-unveil-new-200-series-chipset-computex/index.html

Thx for this. Would be really nice to see Intel officially confirm either way if Icelake Cannonlake will work in Kaby Lake 200 series chipset boards. If they will, obviously that's awesome news. If they won't, definitely a bummer as far as platform longevity goes.

 

[RussianSensation]

Of course Icelake won't work with 200 series. We still have Canonlake and then Icelake, probably 400 series chipset. I hope by then we get PCIe 4.0 already and M.2 Ultra Gen 2 PCIe 3.0 x8 (or PCIe 4.0 x4).

 

[chucky2]

Of course Icelake won't work with 200 series. We still have Canonlake and then Icelake, probably 400 series chipset. I hope by then we get PCIe 4.0 already and M.2 Ultra Gen 2 PCIe 3.0 x8 (or PCIe 4.0 x4).

You are completely right, I meant Cannonlake and posted Icelake instead...I will edit.

 

[limsandy83]

Hello, any news when SFF PC with Intel Skylake 6585R or 6685R will be coming out? Looking to build a HTPC that can play 1080p HEVC and smooth playback/seeking.

 

[ShintaiDK]

R series is soldered on. If you want to build one yourself in an LGA socket you need the "C" version.

 

[PaulIntellini]

http://myevent.opusteam.com/sessions/0B9F4191-1C29-408A-8B61-65D7520025A8/12/5?update=true

A webcast video of the IDF 2016 Shenzen Tech Insight presentation for Skylake is now avaiable

 

[limsandy83]

R series is soldered on. If you want to build one yourself in an LGA socket you need the "C" version.

Thanks, but it seems that Intel has won't be releasing Skylake C, according to some articles I googled.

And I don't plan to change CPU anyway, so I'm okay with soldered CPU as long as it gets here sooner than later and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

I'm hoping to see Gigabyte offer the 6585R/6685R in their Brix line-up or Asus with their VivoPC soon. Any news?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Thanks, but it seems that Intel has won't be releasing Skylake C, according to some articles I googled.

Where'd you see that?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Thanks, but it seems that Intel has won't be releasing Skylake C, according to some articles I googled.

Skylake-C is still on their roadmap.

 

[limsandy83]

Where'd you see that?

I googled "intel skylake c" and articles from Sept 2015 were saying Intel won't be releasing Skylake C. But if something happens between then and now, I'm not really sure.

 

[dark zero]

Skylake-C is still on their roadmap.

But is FAR behind Skylake R and near Kabylake which has another iGPU improvements.... so.. is a massive dissapoint despite showing the real potential of the chip.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Skylake-C is still on their roadmap.

Yeah, that's what I thought . . . Q4 2016 no?

I googled "intel skylake c" and articles from Sept 2015 were saying Intel won't be releasing Skylake C. But if something happens between then and now, I'm not really sure.

I think what you may have been seeing are articles that said (or should have said) that Skylake-C wouldn't be launching alongside the main Skylake product lineup.

 

[Sweepr]

First Kaby Lake device announced by ASUS (3rd Gen Core M?):

ASUS Announces the Transformer 3: Here’s a Kaby-Lake 2-in-1

One of the surprises of ASUS’ Zen press event today, aside from the surreal nature of the anthropomorphic Zenbo, was the first announcement of a Kaby Lake-based 2-in-1 device that takes an obvious upgrade to the Transformer Book T100. The Transformer Pro 3 is ASUS’ newest take on the 2-in-1 form factor, bringing to the market another 12-13 inch super thin high-resolution design with a hinged stand, a sleeve keyboard and pen support. The Samsung ATIV Book 9, the Lenovo ThinkPad Helix 2 and the HP Envy X2 13 come to mind as competitors in the space all playing with similar form factors. Of course, ASUS’ take on this involves Kaby Lake, and as expected, no release date was given.

www.anandtech.com/show/10377/asus-announces-the-transformer-3-heres-a-kabylake-2in1

 

[ShintaiDK]

http://www.techpowerup.com/222932/msi-teases-its-first-intel-200-series-chipset-motherboard

Z270 from MSI at Computex. november 2016 release.

 

[CakeMonster]

Well I'm getting impatient for Kaby Lake... not that I'll get it, but I just want to see the yearly tweak and get the feeling that progress is still being made.

Somebody make a Kaby Lake thread

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well I'm getting impatient for Kaby Lake... not that I'll get it, but I just want to see the yearly tweak and get the feeling that progress is still being made.

Somebody make a Kaby Lake thread

Just take the Skylake thread and add 3%.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Just take the Skylake thread and add 3%.

If Intel is able to get +3% IPC from SKL in KBL, I think that would be a win. I am expecting less.

 

[Heatshiver]

I doubt that Kaby Lake will be a jump considering the Tick Tock is all off now.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Just take the Skylake thread and add 3%.

Now be honest, no one cares about that 3%.

The reason we did care before was that "Tick" brought us substantial clock speed gains and power reduction in addition to the 3% boost.

If we get what we have but 3% faster, who cares?