Intel Shows Off 28 Core, 56 Thread Core-X HEDT Processor For Enthusiasts, In Market Q4 ’18

[Zucker2k]

It's a ridiculous amount of electrical power for a computer haha. And then you'll want a UPS on the chiller and one on the computer. Then you need that much more power for Air Conditioning (watts)

Add a GPU (watts).

It's so ridiculous that I can't imagine a real purpose for it except to show off.

Most anyone needing that kind of compute power, would surely be better served with some multi-socket solution or some kind of dual computer setup: One machine on a multi-socket platform, and another with the higher Hz for anything that's single (or a few) thread intensive/demanding like gaming.

Edit: Better served in up front costs, better served in electrical consumption, better served in reliability, etc, etc

You don't have to clock it to 5GHz ya know? That's for the extreme overclocking crowd and benchmarkers.

 

[LTC8K6]

You don't have to clock it to 5GHz ya know? That's for the extreme overclocking crowd and benchmarkers.

But they said it was 5.0

 

[scannall]

You don't have to clock it to 5GHz ya know? That's for the extreme overclocking crowd and benchmarkers.

I can't see them selling a $10,000 chip for much less than that. Would you delid and overclock that? I wouldn't.

 

[Bouowmx]

You don't have to clock it to 5GHz ya know? That's for the extreme overclocking crowd and benchmarkers.

Skylake-X is capable of per-core overclocking. Set 2-4 cores to 5 GHz, and the remaining to a conservative target.

 

[moonbogg]

I can't see them selling a $10,000 chip for much less than that. Would you delid and overclock that? I wouldn't.

What? Why not!? Is it the price? Come on man, hurry up and get rich already, geez. Join the rest of us Intel customers who burn stacks of hundies just to warm what's in our undies.

 

[Panino Manino]

Following that CTS case I'm again disappointed with Anandtech, allowing Intel to get away with this ploy with just a light tap at the back.

 

[Schmide]

They are lucky they got caught. Misleading investors can be troublesome especially for any company with a history of artificially stifling competition.

 

[IEC]

But they said it was 5.0

They "forgot" to tell us it was overclocked.

It's quite understandable, really. When you release a part that differs from a Xeon primarily in missing ECC support, memory errors are just a risk you have to take!

 

[LTC8K6]

They could have just told us about the new chip without the hokey demo.

For one thing, the secret was always going to leak out.
For another thing, if we knew ahead of time about the cooling, we'd all have said "So what?", regarding running the chip at 5ghz.

 

[BigDaveX]

I must just be jaded about this whole "overclocked demonstrations" thing, as I don't feel especially surprised or outraged at all. Intel had plenty of form for that sort of thing back in the Netburst era, and on the AMD side, there was that 8GHz Bulldozer sample that turned out to have had 3 of its 4 modules disabled.

 

[jpiniero]

Guess it's worth mentioning again that Cascade Lake doesn't really offer much beyond Spectre/Meltdown fixes and the fixes for Optane DIMMs. The models themselves will likely have higher cores/clocks/tdp however. I also expect the stock mesh frequency to be much higher on Cascade-X.

 

[sandorski]

I must just be jaded about this whole "overclocked demonstrations" thing, as I don't feel especially surprised or outraged at all. Intel had plenty of form for that sort of thing back in the Netburst era, and on the AMD side, there was that 8GHz Bulldozer sample that turned out to have had 3 of its 4 modules disabled.

All those Overclocking demos were clearly stated as being overclocked. Intel "failed" to mention that in their demo.

 

[Zucker2k]

But they said it was 5.0

"28 cores running at 5GHz" for the demo. Context. He said this while running a commentary on the Cinebench run and announced the score soon after. The crowd then responded with applause. Watch.

Edit: Now, were they vague about details of the chip and the demo? Yes. But no where did they say 5GHz is the stock clock of the chip. A claim like that will be insane, and they know it. Good journalism is investigating details before publishing it.

 

[HutchinsonJC]

I'd hate to go on about what good journalism is, when a company like Intel can't even demo a product well enough for any kind of media to properly report on it in the first place.

It's not like Intel is new on the block.

 

[happy medium]

Guess it's worth mentioning again that Cascade Lake doesn't really offer much beyond Spectre/Meltdown fixes and the fixes for Optane DIMMs. The models themselves will likely have higher cores/clocks/tdp however. I also expect the stock mesh frequency to be much higher on Cascade-X.

So was it Cascade-X in the pc Intel used?

 

[jpiniero]

So was it Cascade-X in the pc Intel used?

No, most likely an unlocked 8180.

 

[cytg111]

Woooooo Core and GHz race is back on... Whats not to like .

 

[Gikaseixas]

Woooooo Core and GHz race is back on... Whats not to like .

Deceiving PR stunts. Would love to have 28 cores boosting to 5ghz on conventional cooling solutions by Q4 of 2018 but that won't happen, we all know it

 

[PeterScott]

It keeps looking like Intel needs a new CEO. They keep making weird, shooting themselves in the foot, blunders under Brian Krzanich.

Intel could have simply released their 28C part repurposed on a HEDT MB, much like AMD is doing moving Epyc onto the TR MB, and there would have no controversy, and people would have been curious about the outcome when they were tested head to head.

Instead they do this stupid publicity stunt, and invite universal derision.

Then there was baffling nonsense that was Kaby Lake X.

It's one thing to be late on your process node, but it's another to flounder around doing stupid nonsense, that just makes it look like leadership doesn't have a clue. Ultimately the clueless leadership buck stops with the CEO.

Intel has a very decent CPU core and while they are very late on the next process, they have great 14nm process that can help them weather that storm a while longer if they just stop doing nonsense in the interim.

 

[LTC8K6]

No, most likely an unlocked 8180.

Base freq was 2.7 though. 8180 is 2.5...

 

[IEC]

Base freq was 2.7 though. 8180 is 2.5...

A binned XCC die with ECC disabled and firmware set to higher TDP + higher base clocks is my bet. Those are the dies that become Xeon Platinum 8180 and 8176 processors. This of course still leaves room open for a slightly tweaked process for the retail product and a new "Lake" codename.

Of course, price will be commensurate with the performance. This CPU will fit the tiniest of niche markets given that the Xeon 8180 lists for over $10,000.

It's also a good way to dump XCC dies with Spectre/Meltdown flaws to people who don't care about them and only want the absolute best single socket performance. That segment of the market doesn't care about price.

 

[virpz]

That was staged the exactly way it looks like. Now that they have been caught, they are staging like if it they forgot to say "overclock" when it is clear that they never pretended to disclose that in the sort time.


Facts:

• There are no Intel four or six cores that come at 5GHz MT.
  
  
• Their Xeon Platinum 8180M is a 2.5GHz, 28 core, 205W part.

How in the hell can Intel pull a freaking 28 Core, 5GHz capable part out of NOWHERE ?
No reviewer asked that, still pretty much all major sites had BIG headlines about such CPU.

Intel is ugly for playing tricks, most reviewers are either plain incompetent or completely corrupted.

 

[krumme]

When you forgot you used a waterchiller type mostly used for aquariums, is noisy as a outside aircon and is placed in soundproofed box hidden under the table.

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[inf64]

That was staged the exactly the way it looks like. Now that they have been caught, they are staging like if it they forgot to say "overclock" when it is clear that they never pretended to disclose that.


Facts:

• There are no Intel four or six cores that come at 5GHz MT.
  
  
• Their Xeon Platinum 8180M is a 2.5GHz, 28 core, 205W part.

How in the hell can Intel pull a freaking 28 Core, 5GHz capable part out of NOWHERE ?
No reviewer asked that, still pretty much all major sites had BIG headlines about such CPU.

Intel is ugly for playing tricks, reviewers are either plain incompetent or completely corrupted.

When you forgot you used a waterchiller type mostly used for aquariums, is noisy as a outside aircon and is placed in soundproofed box hidden under the table.

Sendt fra min SM-T710 med Tapatalk

Yeah, that was a pathetic PR stunt I must say. Some big mainstream IT websites eat it no problem though, tells us a lot about state of journalism these days.

 

[ericlp]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ore-enthusiast-chip-but-probably-not-at-5ghz/