Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

[igor_kavinski]

Wow. What a wussy, sneaky cop out!

 

[blckgrffn]

It also may or may not void the warranty. Giggly, giggly, STOMP!

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OF COURSE IT DOES

 

[KompuKare]

It also may or may not void the warranty. Giggly, giggly, STOMP!

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I guess the real question is what did all the launch day reviews use?
And what did Intel's reviewer guide specify - or what did Intel's PR's charts have in their footnotes?

(Always though Intel's initial "blame the motherboard manufacturers" thing was a bit strange - a company the size of Intel should have spotted if launch-day BIOS settings produced results way above their internal "safe" values. Take credit for the benchmark scores but later disown the settings used? That's just spin IMO.)

Of course, in previous generations only OTT overclockers on suicide runs used to damage their CPU because tier-1 silicon like CPUs rarely broke.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Buildzoid with a follow up focusing on load line. TLDW = "The platform is a horrible mess." "Not a fan of how Intel does their power delivery LOL!" "No one validated anything"

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

FYI for those with RPL CPUs. If you turn off Intel Default Settings in the BIOS, the voltage limit in the new microcode gets disabled.

That sounds like entrapment for a release of responsibility from Intel. Or just a broken implementation.

 

[DZero]

Intel had just made an Idiot Design and ruined what Alder Lake did right.

 

[Steltek]

That sounds like entrapment for a release of responsibility from Intel. Or just a broken implementation.

Panic mode retrofitting at its worst.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Intel desperation reaching new heights??? https://www.anandtech.com/show/21529/intel-sells-its-arm-shares-reduces-stakes-in-other-companies

 

[Steltek]

Intel desperation reaching new heights??? https://www.anandtech.com/show/21529/intel-sells-its-arm-shares-reduces-stakes-in-other-companies

They are trying to show institutional investors that they are focused on their own products and not those of a competitor, alongside raking in about $150 mil in profits on the ARM stock price increase.

I'm sure they've retained their ARM architecture license, as that isn't mentioned in any of the press releases.

 

[igor_kavinski]

They are trying to show institutional investors that they are focused on their own products and not those of a competitor, alongside raking in about $150 mil in profits on the ARM stock price increase.

They are billions in debt and judging by their stupid expensive decisions, they'll burn through that $150 million in a few months, if not A month.

 

[Steltek]

They are billions in debt and judging by their stupid expensive decisions, they'll burn through that $150 million in a few months, if not A month.

The stock price has mostly stabilized at this point, presuming no further bad news. According to their 2nd quarter financial statement, Intel still had over $11 billion in cash/cash equivalents on hand as of 06/29/24 (i.e. approx 3 times what AMD had for the same period). Now granted, that is way down from the $50b cash they held in the good ole days of Core, but they are still are at least a little way from going broke at this point.

That being said, if Arrow Lake flops, you can probably stick a fork in it. I'm really hoping it doesn't, as AMD needs the competition based upon the relatively mixed showing of Ryzen 9000.

 

[igor_kavinski]

That being said, if Arrow Lake flops, you can probably stick a fork in it. I'm really hoping it doesn't, as AMD needs the competition based upon the relatively mixed showing of Ryzen 9000.

After dual CCD Zen 5 flopping, it would take new moronic heights for Intel to let Arrow Lake flop.

AMD basically handed their ass to Intel and telling them, hey, for old time's sake, I'm gonna hold back so you can score a much needed win.

 

[Joe NYC]

The stock price has mostly stabilized at this point, presuming no further bad news. According to their 2nd quarter financial statement, Intel still had over $11 billion in cash/cash equivalents on hand as of 06/29/24 (i.e. approx 3 times what AMD had for the same period). Now granted, that is way down from the $50b cash they held in the good ole days of Core, but they are still are at least a little way from going broke at this point.

That being said, if Arrow Lake flops, you can probably stick a fork in it. I'm really hoping it doesn't, as AMD needs the competition based upon the relatively mixed showing of Ryzen 9000.

Big difference between Intel and AMD is that Intel has to continuously pour billions into CapEx for the foundry, while AMD does not have any such outlays for cash. AMD has been retiring debt and buying companies with the cash generated from operations.

 

[Steltek]

Big difference between Intel and AMD is that Intel has to continuously pour billions into CapEx for the foundry, while AMD does not have any such outlays for cash. AMD has been retiring debt and buying companies with the cash generated from operations.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Intel to sell a few (but not all) of them in the future.

Also, Arrow Lake engineering samples are showing up and is giving some good hints (if only we can trust that it doesn't self-destruct)...

 

[SolidQ]

another story?

Intel CPUs Crashing During Black Myth Wukong Shader Compilation

According to some users, even with the latest microcode 0x129, Black Myth: Wukong benchmarks crashes during shader compilation.

tech4gamers.com

 

[DAPUNISHER]

another story?

Intel CPUs Crashing During Black Myth Wukong Shader Compilation

According to some users, even with the latest microcode 0x129, Black Myth: Wukong benchmarks crashes during shader compilation.

tech4gamers.com

LMAO I knew when the benchmark said shader compilation completed successfully it was throwing shade at rapture lake.

The new patch is definitely causing problems and nerfing performance for some users -

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1etclba/i_dropped_15_fps_with_the_same_settings_post

 

[inf64]

The moment you see "out of video memory" error you know what's up.

 

[AdamK47]

Part of me wonders if some of these systems were initially built unstable and newer games with more advanced multi threaded code are just now exposing problems that have been there from the start.

People don't stability test anymore.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Part of me wonders if some of these systems were initially built unstable and newer games with more advanced multi threaded code are just now exposing problems that have been there from the start.

People don't stability test anymore.

That's not what is happening. There is ample evidence that degraded raptor lake CPUs are the problem. They fail in every configuration, prebuilts, servers, roll your own, even mobile. I have seen owners say their broken CPU passed P95, y-cruncher, various 3DMark stress tests, and other troubleshooting, but fortnite, warframe, etc. would make it crap the bed.

We already went through blaming everyone but Intel; it was them all along.

 

[Steltek]

Worst part is, unless you are lucky enough to have a motherboard with a flashback type BIOS upgrade system or happen to get a motherboard with the new BIOS, just powering on a new CPU in a motherboard in order to update the BIOS is a potential risk to your CPU in and of itself.

Not to mention from all the accounts of the power mitigations going away if you happen to set the wrong options in the BIOS (though, that may possibly be as much on the board partners as it is Intel for allowing that to happen).

Intel still has a majorly long row to hoe in navigating this little disaster....

 

[igor_kavinski]

We already went through blaming everyone but Intel; it was them all along.

Funny notion: Intel didn't give 13/14th gen systems to their game testers on the ARC team? Or maybe they did and their concerns were hushed up?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Worst part is, unless you are lucky enough to have a motherboard with a flashback type BIOS upgrade system or happen to get a motherboard with the new BIOS, just powering on a new CPU in a motherboard in order to update the BIOS is a potential risk to your CPU in and of itself.

Good point. I guess the safest way would be to set the mobo to Intel Default profile before updating BIOS.

 

[Steltek]

Funny notion: Intel didn't give 13/14th gen systems to their game testers on the ARC team? Or maybe they did and their concerns were hushed up?

Or, also makes you wonder how much of Intel's driver performance issues were a result of the (then unknown) CPU issues during development.

 

[Steltek]

Good point. I guess the safest way would be to set the mobo to Intel Default profile before updating BIOS.

You still have to power it on to get to that point. Who actually knows what voltage the CPU is going to get between power on and you resetting the BIOS and rebooting?

 

[igor_kavinski]

You still have to power it on to get to that point. Who actually knows what voltage the CPU is going to get between power on and you resetting the BIOS and rebooting?

Pray Pray Pray