Discussion Intel Nova Lake in H2-2026: Discussion Threads

[Fjodor2001]

he's wrong

You’re just speculating

 

[dullard]

You’re just speculating

Hey, at least you got Adroc up from no bLLC to 1 bLLC: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intels-past-present-and-future.2623954/post-41415018

Keep it up. Maybe after it releases, Adroc will say that since it is a workstation CPU it doesn't count to have 2 bLLCs.

 

[adroc_thurston]

You’re just speculating

So does he.
Now what

 

[Fjodor2001]

So does he.
Now what

Now you’re speculating that he is speculating. 😜

 

[mikk]

0xD745, TPlatformIndexGt( GENERATION_NVL, GFX_GTTYPE_UNDEFINED, 2 ) }, // NVL-HX

metrics-discovery/instrumentation/metrics_discovery/linux/inc/md_gfx_device_info.h at 1b7f8109ed6eb23aea70112b6be3929b1657a29b · intel/metrics-discovery

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Xe3_LPG/Xe3P_LPM (Panther Lake, NVL-S: Nova Lake S, NVL-U: Nova Lake U, NVL-H: Nova Lake H, NVL-HX: Nova Lake HX, NVL-UL: Nova Lake UL)

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NVL-HX still alive by the looks of it.

 

[jdubs03]

0xD745, TPlatformIndexGt( GENERATION_NVL, GFX_GTTYPE_UNDEFINED, 2 ) }, // NVL-HX

metrics-discovery/instrumentation/metrics_discovery/linux/inc/md_gfx_device_info.h at 1b7f8109ed6eb23aea70112b6be3929b1657a29b · intel/metrics-discovery

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Xe3_LPG/Xe3P_LPM (Panther Lake, NVL-S: Nova Lake S, NVL-U: Nova Lake U, NVL-H: Nova Lake H, NVL-HX: Nova Lake HX, NVL-UL: Nova Lake UL)

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NVL-HX still alive by the looks of it.

I was under the impression that NVL was supposed to be a full release from HEDT down to thin and light. This pretty much confirms it. Not aware of the UL identifier though. Maybe it’s the 15W TDP SKU and U is 28W. If not then it’s further down the power envelope.

 

[511]

0xD745, TPlatformIndexGt( GENERATION_NVL, GFX_GTTYPE_UNDEFINED, 2 ) }, // NVL-HX

metrics-discovery/instrumentation/metrics_discovery/linux/inc/md_gfx_device_info.h at 1b7f8109ed6eb23aea70112b6be3929b1657a29b · intel/metrics-discovery

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Xe3_LPG/Xe3P_LPM (Panther Lake, NVL-S: Nova Lake S, NVL-U: Nova Lake U, NVL-H: Nova Lake H, NVL-HX: Nova Lake HX, NVL-UL: Nova Lake UL)

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NVL-HX still alive by the looks of it.

NVL-HX is the note book part no way it gets killed

 

[poke01]

NVL-HX is the note book part no way it gets killed

Intel hired SoC people from Apple about 2 years ago. It’s happening.

 

[511]

Intel hired SoC people from Apple about 2 years ago. It’s happening.

I think you meant NVL-AX?

 

[poke01]

I think you meant NVL-AX?

Yeah that

 

[Kepler_L2]

0xD745, TPlatformIndexGt( GENERATION_NVL, GFX_GTTYPE_UNDEFINED, 2 ) }, // NVL-HX

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Xe3_LPG/Xe3P_LPM (Panther Lake, NVL-S: Nova Lake S, NVL-U: Nova Lake U, NVL-H: Nova Lake H, NVL-HX: Nova Lake HX, NVL-UL: Nova Lake UL)

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NVL-HX still alive by the looks of it.

HX is just the desktop NVL in a BGA socket. AX is the Halo competitor that was cancelled.

 

[511]

HX is just the desktop NVL in a BGA socket. AX is the Halo competitor that was cancelled.

It's not cancelled ...

 

[Kepler_L2]

It's not cancelled ...

It is

 

[poke01]

It is

Does Intel plan to do big SoCs with Nvidia?

If that’s the case, I wish them good luck.

 

[Khato]

Which makes more sense for Intel in the mobile space - pay NVIDIA for x60 class graphics, or use their own IP? I'd hope the answer is obvious.

Hopefully we won't have to wait too long following PTL launch to get full reviews on its performance as that'll be indicative of how likely they are to achieve that goal with NVL-AX.

 

[511]

It is

No it's not it's moved to RZL

Which makes more sense for Intel in the mobile space - pay NVIDIA for x60 class graphics, or use their own IP? I'd hope the answer is obvious.

The answer is not that Intel will have both their own GPU IP and Nvidia GPU IP Based product different tier

Hopefully we won't have to wait too long following PTL launch to get full reviews on its performance as that'll be indicative of how likely they are to achieve that goal with NVL-AX.

Xe3P is big changes and double XMX throughput you can look at the GitHub for Xe3P

https://github.com/intel/compute-runtime/commit/d71f93c89b2d6ab1c3f8f404cd14744709c73cb7

FYI: SIMD 32 and major arch change even bigger than Xe -> Xe2

 

[Kepler_L2]

No it's not it's moved to RZL

We are talking about Nova Lake

 

[511]

We are talking about Nova Lake

than you are correct NVL-AX is canned and it became RZL (Classic Intel)

 

[mikk]

HX is just the desktop NVL in a BGA socket. AX is the Halo competitor that was cancelled.

Oh yes indeed, then it seems cancelled unless it comes much later, even though CRI comes much later than NVL-S they have already included it.

No it's not it's moved to RZL

The answer is not that Intel will have both their own GPU IP and Nvidia GPU IP Based product different tier

Xe3P is big changes and double XMX throughput you can look at the GitHub for Xe3P

https://github.com/intel/compute-runtime/commit/d71f93c89b2d6ab1c3f8f404cd14744709c73cb7

FYI: SIMD 32 and major arch change even bigger than Xe -> Xe2

Where do you see SIMD32?


From PVC onwards (including Xe3p), the SIMD width was increased from SIMD8 to SIMD16.

intel-graphics-compiler/visa/VisaToG4/TranslateSend3D.cpp at f788498d3ffc65ed1c29932134387244ebcacbd5 · intel/intel-graphics-compiler

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[511]

Oh yes indeed, then it seems cancelled unless it comes much later, even though CRI comes much later than NVL-S they have already included it.




Where do you see SIMD32?


From PVC onwards (including Xe3p), the SIMD width was increased from SIMD8 to SIMD16.

intel-graphics-compiler/visa/VisaToG4/TranslateSend3D.cpp at f788498d3ffc65ed1c29932134387244ebcacbd5 · intel/intel-graphics-compiler

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[ToTTenTranz]

AX is the Halo competitor that was cancelled.

Why?

 

[511]

Why?

It got moved to RZL so instead of NVL-AX you get RZL-AX

 

[ToTTenTranz]

It got moved to RZL so instead of NVL-AX you get RZL-AX

I get that, but why?

Performance wasn't expected to be competitive with Zen 6 + AT3? It was getting delayed? Is Razer Lake getting pushed forward instead?

 

[Khato]

All these delightfully declarative statements regarding the cancellation of NVL-AX are based on what official communication from Intel again? Or is it just yet another random internet rumor?

 

[vanplayer]

Why?

Maybe due to the terrible PPA. Same issue and similar fate as Battlemage G31. I didn't have any NVL-AX leak before.