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Tigerick

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Wildcat Lake (WCL) Specs

Intel Wildcat Lake (WCL) is upcoming mobile SoC replacing Raptor Lake-U. WCL consists of 2 tiles: compute tile and PCD tile. It is true single die consists of CPU, GPU and NPU that is fabbed by 18-A process. Last time I checked, PCD tile is fabbed by TSMC N6 process. They are connected through UCIe, not D2D; a first from Intel. Expecting launching in Q1 2026.

Intel Raptor Lake UIntel Wildcat Lake 15W?Intel Lunar LakeIntel Panther Lake 4+0+4
Launch DateQ1-2024Q2-2026Q3-2024Q1-2026
ModelIntel 150UIntel Core 7Core Ultra 7 268VCore Ultra 7 365
Dies2223
NodeIntel 7 + ?Intel 18-A + TSMC N6TSMC N3B + N6Intel 18-A + Intel 3 + TSMC N6
CPU2 P-core + 8 E-cores2 P-core + 4 LP E-cores4 P-core + 4 LP E-cores4 P-core + 4 LP E-cores
Threads12688
Max Clock5.4 GHz?5 GHz4.8 GHz
L3 Cache12 MB12 MB12 MB
TDP15 - 55 W15 W ?17 - 37 W25 - 55 W
Memory128-bit LPDDR5-520064-bit LPDDR5128-bit LPDDR5x-8533128-bit LPDDR5x-7467
Size96 GB32 GB128 GB
Bandwidth136 GB/s
GPUIntel GraphicsIntel GraphicsArc 140VIntel Graphics
RTNoNoYESYES
EU / Xe96 EU2 Xe8 Xe4 Xe
Max Clock1.3 GHz?2 GHz2.5 GHz
NPUGNA 3.018 TOPS48 TOPS49 TOPS






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As Hot Chips 34 starting this week, Intel will unveil technical information of upcoming Meteor Lake (MTL) and Arrow Lake (ARL), new generation platform after Raptor Lake. Both MTL and ARL represent new direction which Intel will move to multiple chiplets and combine as one SoC platform.

MTL also represents new compute tile that based on Intel 4 process which is based on EUV lithography, a first from Intel. Intel expects to ship MTL mobile SoC in 2023.

ARL will come after MTL so Intel should be shipping it in 2024, that is what Intel roadmap is telling us. ARL compute tile will be manufactured by Intel 20A process, a first from Intel to use GAA transistors called RibbonFET.



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trivik12

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I think there will be few devices available to buy this month. I wonder if we will see any at Best Buy or Costco.
 

Mopetar

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One would think so, if only just to try to cash in on the Christmas season sales. I'd find it hard to believe that there wasn't at least one OEM that would want to have the hit new product on shelves right before the holidays.
 

Hitman928

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Today in about 4 hours.

Supposed to be live now though it hasn't actually started yet.
 

H433x0n

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They started comparison against 7840U with some pretty bold claims. They're claiming Ultra 7 155H outperforms 7840U in ST performance by 8%.
 

Hitman928

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Steam quality is too poor to keep taking screenshots. 155H scored about 25% higher than the 7840u in CB24 multi. No power numbers given outside of saying they are both ~30W CPUs.
 

H433x0n

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To be intellectually consistent - I'm still not a huge fan of this test either. I'm not sure this is much better than the Chinese leaks that showed the exact opposite results.
 

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Looks reasonable so far but would be a better test if they had brought an MTL system in the same Lenovo T16 chassis that the AMD one is in and they provided real power figures.

We will know the answers to all of this very soon regardless.
 
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H433x0n

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Looks reasonable so far but would be a better test if they had brought an MTL system in the same Lenovo T16 chassis that the AMD one is in and they provided real power figures.

We will know the answers to all of this very soon regardless.

Yeah... It's what drove me nuts about all of the earlier leaks out of China that everybody was spiking the football over.
 

mikk

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Surprised that the CPU timespy score is quite a bit higher as well which I think helps in League of Legends at 150-200 fps they were showcasing.