Dont recall anybody saying they were.Apple is Never going back to Intel.
Dont recall anybody saying they were.Apple is Never going back to Intel.
So if RL is Oct, then its highly likely it will launch with AM5 or thereabouts, this is what I've absorbed from net speculation so far. Thing with AM5 is that the cpu cooler mounts will be backwards compatible with AM4 design, so there's a bonus with AMD but going to DDR5 still at this point in time anyway, not much of a financial proposition for return on value for money, at least with gaming anyway.Searching shows it was leaked by a Chinese insider.
Raptorlake is October. So barely earlier than Alderlake. And that's for the Z790, and they are saying non K chips are coming in Q1.
Forget about Meteorlake P/U/H and desktop in Q2. Again, 5W is possible in Q2 but rest will not launch until late Q3/Q4 or even later. Since desktop is of miniscule volume, it means realistically Meteorlake is Jan 2024.
I guess the silver lining is that they can speed up Arrowlake desktop launch. If socketed desktops are practically nonexistent, maybe they can do K Arrowlake in Q2 of 2024.
That's because Comet and Ice were meant to coexist together as part of one generation.
necessary evil facilitates the production of good evil like alderlake. I'm sure your aware of the LGA1700 mounting issues.... what clusterfuck of design that is!Comet Lake wasn't even supposed to exist at all. It was a necessary evil to keep fresh product on the open market, followed by yet another necessary evil (Rocket Lake).
necessary evil facilitates the production of good evil like alderlake. I'm sure your aware of the LGA1700 mounting issues.... what clusterfuck of design that is!
ADL uses two dies for all desktop SKUs: one is 8+8 and one is a considerably smaller 6+0. That's why you don't see efficiency cores anywhere in the i5 and i3 line except for 12600K which uses the 8+8 die.Are both ADL and RPL based on the same monolithic chip, and then disabling cores for the different SKU's?
In best case scenarios, how efficient are the E-cores perf/watt compared to zen3?
Intel Core i9-12900K E-Cores Only Performance Review
With Alder Lake, Intel is betting big on hybrid CPU core configurations. The Core i9-12900K has eight P(erformance) cores and eight E(fficient) cores. We were curious and tested the processor running the E-Cores only to see how well they perform against architectures like Zen 2, Zen 3, Skylake...www.techpowerup.com
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E-cores win in ST but lose in MT due to being too weak architecturally.
I don't see how that is bad. 5800X is very power efficient.If I'm a person who live in the cave and see these data, I would guess the 5800X is a E-core while the another 'E-core' is not....
In a 1v1 comparison the desktop E-cores always lose in energy efficiency when looking at any meaningful load (except for very light loads). However, that is true while ignoring area difference. As long as the workload scales across multiple cores, at ISO area the greater number of E cores win by virtue of numbers and operating at more advantageous frequencies.In best case scenarios, how efficient are the E-cores perf/watt compared to zen3?
Intel H610/Q670 motherboard supports DDR5-5200 SO-DIMM memory with upcoming Intel Raptor Lake-S CPUs - VideoCardz.com
Intel H610/H670 motherboard supports 13th Gen Core “Raptor Lake-S” CPU with SO-DIMM DDR5-5200 memory MiTAC becomes the first motherboard maker to list Raptor Lake-S as supported on the current-generation series. The company lists Raptor Lake-S CPU support for its PH12ADI Mini-ITX industrial...videocardz.com
This is a trend I would like to see. Desktop boards with SO-DIMM support. Would allow for more flexible Mini-ITX designs.
The way E-cores are used as part of ADL under Windows 11 so far makes them not that useful wrt power efficiency. Chips and Cheese did some article in January:
So energy efficiency wise E-cores don't offer any advantage for INT-loads from 3.2 GHz onward and shouldn't be used at all for non-INT loads at frequencies above 3.2 GHz as from that point onward they actually do worse than P-cores.
Personally I wasn't impressed by this at all (especially considering 12th gen chips are tuned to max out cores, thus make the worst possible use of the E-cores) and hope Intel does much better with the following gens.
E-cores win in ST but lose in MT due to being too weak architecturally.
I sure hope they'll fix this asap. The current behavior would only make sense if the scheduler could prefer E-cores until 3.2 GHz and move affected processes to P-cores once frequency passes that.They surely will sort this out, maybe Raptor Lake mobile is a candidate (new DLVR power delivery), if not I bet Meteor Lake will fix this.
Not trying to be a killjoy, but correctly using the 2 different cores by a scheduler seems to be a very difficult if not impossible.
From a hardware pov they all focused on (mostly essentially fixed to) running at least the little core if not both big and little cores close to the most efficient frequency. Same cannot be said of Intel's current implementation.ARM + Android and ARM + iOS have been doing it for years.
Same cannot be said of Intel's current implementation.
Which Intel story was the last unfounded rumor from Charlie?If its SPR, then its disappointing. Just yesterday i read, granted on WCCF, that SPR Xeons-W are coming in October, including that mainstream ”hedt” line-up topping at those rumorex 24 cores. So maybe theyre not really and its just another unfounded rumor.
Which Intel story was the last unfounded rumor from Charlie?