Yeah but you're talking about the same Raja who let a Vega tease video through with 'POOR VOLTA' in it.Raja sure looks happy about something.
Yeah but you're talking about the same Raja who let a Vega tease video through with 'POOR VOLTA' in it.Raja sure looks happy about something.
I'm really curious, who claimed ADL would be on 14nm?Intel confirmed ADL is based on 10nm, both desktop and mobile: https://s21.q4cdn.com/600692695/files/doc_financials/2020/q2/Q2-2020_Earnings-Presentation.pdf
No surprise but important to note because the usual suspects claimed it's 14nm. Unfortunately Intel struggles once again with a new node, 7nm CPU products have been been delayed by 6-12 months. I wonder if they have to delay GPU products as well, I mean Ponte Vecchio was their 7nm lead product.
Then here's a similar 9900K score from 5.2.2:There are enough differences between version 5.0 and 5.2 such that comparing the two is not appropriate. I recall reading about it in the Geekbench release notes.
It does indeed. Because GB results are all over the place for the 10900K, this 5.0 GHz RKL sample achieves anywhere between 4 and 12% better ST result than the wide variety of 10900K results @ 5.1 GHz (multicore will obviously be worse than a 10900K, no question there). While this is nice, The compromises that had to be made for 14nm mean that Rocket Lake's IPC gains are nowhere near the hoped for 20%.14nm strikes again.
My dear dude, in Charlie's call with that company, he had information about the GPU part being mfg'd at 14nm, not the CPU cores.I know, everyone with some serious thinking expected 10nm from ADL, however Charlie and some other usual suspects tried to defend the 14nm hypothesis till the end:
Wow, this thread is over 3 years old, and we still don't have a 10nm desktop chip.
If there wasn't any Zen1 in 2017, intel might had released 10nm desktop chip SKL-based i7-8700k at then which is only has 4C8T@4Ghz to continue fooling comsumer.
Well, in light of this delay...Be patient, "i guess maybe it will arrive before AMD Zen 4/5000 Desktop series".
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Yeah but you're talking about the same Raja who let a Vega tease video through with 'POOR VOLTA' in it.
I'm really curious, who claimed ADL would be on 14nm?
Nope, he (I mean, the company he was in a call with) was talking about the GPU part only.Honestly I don't know, Charlie-but-not-Charlie?
Nope, he (I mean, the company he was in a call with) was talking about the GPU part only.
But not Mikk, whom I was replying to. He said 'usual suspects' etc. but he got it wrong, because for whatever reason he chose Reddit as a source.Yeah that's kind of what I meant, heh
With the CTO becoming Gary Patton, finally getting the position he originally had at GlobalFoundries.I think Michael C. Mayberry will be the next Intel CEO because he looks just like Tim Cook and that would make investors feel better
It looks like Raja will be gone within a quarter or two... There is a power struggle at intel and Murthy is winning(according to both Jim and Charlie). 7nm is a worse disaster then 10nm and 10nm is seriously under performing. It all looks like AMD will be pummeling intel next 2 generations at least, which is sad for us consumers.
Well, while tit-for-tat between Intel and AMD would be exiting, currently Intel still make over 98% of the x86 profit (2019 net income: Intel $21,000 million, AMD $341 million).It looks like Raja will be gone within a quarter or two... There is a power struggle at intel and Murthy is winning(according to both Jim and Charlie). 7nm is a worse disaster then 10nm and 10nm is seriously under performing. It all looks like AMD will be pummeling intel next 2 generations at least, which is sad for us consumers.
Yes, in a rational world you would think so but then who says a power struggle is rational?You would think anyone pushing hard to keep manufacturing in-house would be losing power.
Bad assumption.After the Geekbench v5 result it is easy to say this. He should have posted this before it appeared. Pretty sure this is just based on the Geekbench v5 result which is risky to conclude based on only one benchmark. TDP is known as well and 5 Ghz lol, after the 5 Ghz Geekbench leak not so difficult to predict this.
Well, while tit-for-tat between Intel and AMD would be exiting, currently Intel still make over 98% of the x86 profit (2019 net income: Intel $21,000 million, AMD $341 million).
So I wouldn't worry about them yet, plus I think for AMD to truly be able to deliver multi-year projects and more variants, AMD would have to grab at least 20% of the x86 profit for a few years. That would be good for consumer and PC enthusiasts, not so good for shareholders.
In the end it is money and how many (few) employees they have which determine that how many die variations the do - with more employees we might not get the near one year delay between Zen2 and the APUs, or get proper 4C dies for the low end, try-outs of chiplets design combining CPU and GPU parts, etc.)
Yes, in a rational world you would think so but then who says a power struggle is rational?
While I doubt that Intel is as colourful as Apple at one stage (I'm thinking of the infamous pink vs blue when deciding on the next OS in the later 80s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_(operating_system)#Pink_and_Blue), I'm sure with Intel's manufacturing being so huge there are lots of egos, perks, and positions at stake if they were to fab stuff elsewhere.