Gideon
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Thank you for the updateded measurement links!I told Renoir is slightly bigger which I'm sure is correct!
My gripe was mainly with the fact that you totally omitted the core count, yet listed every other difference (including some with minimal effect on die-size).
On top of that you ignored the ~53.76 mm² PCH chip that Intel has, and AMD doesn't. While it indeed also includes stuff AMD doesn't have at all (like WiFi6, CNVi) a lot of the I/O is also there, including a lot of the PCIe, USB, SATA stuff.
My point being that Renoir is still actually a really tightly packed chip (don't forget that the smaller GPU is old architecture and still 20% faster than Ice-Lake). All-in-all they are about equal, unless final measurements are indeed >mm² different.
From the forementioned a selection of facts it just seemed as if Renoir is total PoS that does everything badly while Tigeralke is the pinnacle of engineering achievement possible to man.
Yes that's true, but that was published before pictures were taken. AFAIK measurments from the pictures tend to confirm it still tended to believe it.Ian got his 150mm2 estimate of Renoir by basically eyeballing.
LOL, AgreedThis is AT nerd form of a dick measuring contest. However they are not measuring the size of their own, but Intel/AMDs. With errors being plus or minus 2-3mm2 easily, we can also conclude they are the same.