Yotsugi
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You're really bad at deflecting too.Lol Yotsugi - your coping mechanism is funny
You're really bad at deflecting too.Lol Yotsugi - your coping mechanism is funny
You are.Who is deflecting? Look in the mirror.
IMO the biggest fail @ Intel isn't even the ongoing saga of 10nm nor the difficulty of backporting Sunny Cove. It's their total inability to produce even a slightly improved CPU arch on 14nm after all these years (6-7!). ARM releases a new core every year (often with minimal node improvements) Nvidia managed to double their perf/watt with maxwell, on the same node, etc ...
IMO the biggest fail @ Intel isn't even the ongoing saga of 10nm nor the difficulty of backporting Sunny Cove. It's their total inability to produce even a slightly improved CPU arch on 14nm after all these years (6-7!). ARM releases a new core every year (often with minimal node improvements) Nvidia managed to double their perf/watt with maxwell, on the same node, etc ...
Don’t shoot the messengerWow we totally should trust Intel, for they never ever lied to us right
Yeah, where I live we prefer stabbing people.Don’t shoot the messenger
Yotsugi, just because you and Charlie says something is so, doesn’t make it so.
You're really bad at deflecting too.
Who is deflecting? Look in the mirror.
Hey, it's fun.What the heck, are we in high school? Please stop.
I guess they're also getting their chiplet strategy in shape because I don't see this dumpster fire of a node yielding those big core count dies Intel loves to use in their Xeons.
is this all because Brian Krzanich happened?
I was going to say desktop versions of any Atom parts that get released.
Even in this case it is in conflict with hardwareluxx. They explicitly told all desktop CPUs manufactured in 10nm are affected. Realistically the hardwareluxx news is a hoax and we will get Alder Lake-S as planned.
It probably speaks to the progress they've been slowly and painfully chalking with 10nm to still want to stick with the node rather than backport sunnycove to 14nm. On the other hand, Intel is all about making money, so if they can get away with 14nm for another generation and still end up making the most money out of the current situation, then that's the path they'll choose.IMO the biggest fail @ Intel isn't even the ongoing saga of 10nm nor the difficulty of backporting Sunny Cove. It's their total inability to produce even a slightly improved CPU arch on 14nm after all these years (6-7!). ARM releases a new core every year (often with minimal node improvements) Nvidia managed to double their perf/watt with maxwell, on the same node, etc ...
It probably speaks to the progress they've been slowly and painfully chalking with 10nm to still want to stick with the node rather than backport sunnycove to 14nm.
He can't be the only incompetent, too much as gone wrong for it just to be down to Krzanich alone.
Backporting a core would require a considerable amount of money and resources, not to mention time. Of course selling Skylake in 2021 is really not going to go over well.
Anyone ever did a hike where the locals kept saying the destination was right around the next corner?Backporting a core would require a considerable amount of money and resources, not to mention time. Of course selling Skylake in 2021 is really not going to go over well.
Intel denies the rumours and says
Intel: Yes, There Will be 10nm Desktop CPUs (Updated)
Intel refutes rumors that it is skipping the 10nm process for desktop processorswww.tomshardware.com
Update 10/14/2019 8:00pt: Intel confirmed to Tom's Hardware that its use of the "Desktop Products" in its statement means "Desktop CPUs," specifically. It's noteworthy that the statement could equate to NUC processors only, and numerous other possibilities abound (like 10nm CPUs for the HEDT market only), but Intel hasn't provided further clarity.
Last I read, Ice Lake -SP was going to be a 26 core design with 22 enabled cores and very poor yields.
Intel finally decided to ramp up both 10nm fabs, so they've got something going - mostly mobile I would expect.
It looks like Intel is going to go full-bore with IoT and comm-level gear based on 10nm tech wherever possible. Lots of little Atom variants. Snow Ridge, Tanner Ridge, Elkhart Lake, Lakefield (okay, that isn't comm or IoT), and then enigmatically, there's . . . IceLake-D.