I'm sure the majority of you all have already seen this from the Coffee Lake thread - but I thought it was appropriate to post it here
It's horrible because TSMC is going HVM with their 7nm SoC node like half a year earlier.
That's not how you get design wins.
It's neither actually. N7 is better AND earlier.Intel will have better performance and TSMC better density - if history is any guide.
We don't know anything about Intel's 7nm yet. My comment was based on history - there is no factual basis for making what you claim now - except, obviously, the 'earlier' part.It's neither actually. N7 is better AND earlier.
Intel's 10nm is competing against other foundries' 7nm nodes.We don't know anything about Intel's 7nm yet.
Intel's 10nm is competing against other foundries' 7nm nodes.
Point still stands, unless you have density and electrostatic performance for both Intel 10nm+ and TSMC N7.
On density at least we have a pretty good idea though... Intel's 10 is 54x36 whereas TSMC 7 is 54x40. So yeah it's pretty close.
56x40 for TSMC.
Is this contacted gate pitch times metal pitch?
Thanks!Yes. For a comparison of Intel 10nm vs TSMC N7 vs GF 7LP
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/cont...alfoundries-discloses-7nm-process-detail.html
Are they going to still use 4-way SMT on Xeon H?
Icelake SP to offer 38cores, 8channel memory, 32gb of HBM2 at 650gb/s
By this point they must be aware of a future 64 core EPYC. Since the top end 28 core Xeon SP is ~10% faster than 32 core EPYC, a 38 core Icelake Xeon, we have to assume if they want it to be merely on par with EPYC, it needs to have per core performance ~33% faster than Skylake-SP. Or 50% if they want 10% advantage to stay.
The HBM2 makes it sound like they are doubling down on HPC... and hoping that their marketing team can work their magic on the rest of the market.
Are they going to still use 4-way SMT on Xeon H?
The worst part of it is that this sounds like it's still monolithic. Assuming it is, given the 10 nm yield issues the earliest they could release this is the end of 2019... but it's probably more like 2020. We'll have to see.
The HBM2 makes it sound like they are doubling down on HPC... and hoping that their marketing team can work their magic on the rest of the market.