Is it not kinda downgrade from 8 + 16 Raptor Lake?
Oh boy...where to start...is a 5 GHz P4 Extreme faster than a 4 GHz Core i3? (HINT: the answer is no kid. It all comes down to absolute performance, or rather, perf/watt when comparing fixed power and/or heating targets. Note that power and heat are two different things)
It sure looks like Raptor Lake is going to be about 30% better in perf/watt, and more like 50% for PL4 workloads (burst), compared to Alder Lake. At the same time AMD will have only a tiny perf/w advantage, with 230W PPT, compared to 253W PL2 for Raptor Lake, with Raptor Lake being a bit faster. AMD seems to have made a great processor, but not to Zen 3’s level, unfortunately. Had they given us 24-32 cores, it would have killed, as it stands, a bit underwhelming for those who don't need AVX-512. Going on rumor anyway. I suspect its going to be quite a good desktop part.
Meteor Lake and beyond seems too speculative at this point, and maybe more focused on power efficiency for mobile.
I really want to know what you are smoking. You mention PL4 "burst" workloads and that sets off alarms. An Intel chip should never hit PL4. PL2 is "burst". PL4 is at the very limit of an Intel chip's capability to operate. If an Intel chip goes beyond PL4 (or even hits), automatic shutdown will occur. Note that under normal operating circumstances, even when overclocked, Intel chips should never come close to PL4. Period.
Raptor lake will be around 20-30% faster than Alder Lake in multicore workloads (depending on the workload), and a small percentage (under 10%) faster than Alder Lake in Single core workloads. Remember, you heard it here first. Don't bother arguing, just quote my post on launch if I'm wrong.
Zen 4, with 16 cores, will easily be able to deal with Raptor Lake, mind you, and according to what we know, the Zen 4 chip demoed by AMD did NOT use 230W, so the PPT for that chip would likely be lower, but alas, I want to keep this post about Intel.
One day Intel will realize what made the Core/Core 2 chips special: hint, it was perf/watt. Until they rediscover that, they won't be competitive with AMD, and according to the latest earnings reports, they have about 2-3 years until AMD technically becomes a larger company...and AMD is fabless.
Intel needs to stop mis-stepping and start stepping. I remember when Core came out (with little fandom), then Core 2 came out. It was Intel's exit strategy from the power-hungry GHz race. A (sub, in some cases) 2ghz chip quickly and easily beat out the hottest and fastest Pentiums. Until that moment, Intel kept releasing faster and hotter chips, while routinely making missteps, some of which required actual recalls. AMD consistently beat them with lower cost, yet superior chips.
Intel needs another Core 2 in order to be competitive. Meteor Lake may be that chip. We will see. Raptor lake is
absolutely not that chip. It will provide a decent upgrade for those who buy Intel, but it won't change the status quo at all.
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Speaking of the Core 2 Duo (or similar AMD chips, for that matter) did you guys watch the Gamers Nexus livestream the other day?