I think process improvements these days are well over stated , even back in the glory days of moores law architecture superiority could still hold off a +1 gen process gap. who ever has the most consistent execution of aggressive architecture changes over time will win.Power, yes. But I was talking about from an iso-process kind of view. Obviously Raptor Lake will be less efficient than Raphael, but thinking longer-term, AMD has been lagging TSMC's latest by a year or two. That works quite well when Intel lags by the same or worse, but seems rather risky to rely on going forward.