Probably using MCC or even something else. Doubt they're putting in the full 4xXCC.They are going to do Bronze and Silver with 4 dies? That's a lot of 10 nm silicon for $500 list (and Intel probably only gets half of that)
Probably using MCC or even something else. Doubt they're putting in the full 4xXCC.They are going to do Bronze and Silver with 4 dies? That's a lot of 10 nm silicon for $500 list (and Intel probably only gets half of that)
There is no MCC. It's like Zen 1. They could (and likely will) do less than 4 die models but I would think those wouldn't have the metals branding and be on a different socket.Probably using MCC or even something else. Doubt they're putting in the full 4xXCC.
Intel wouldn't be dumb enough to make a real monolithic die as well, would they? (Don't answer that)According to whom?
Anything we've seen from Intel has shown them attaching the tiles to each other. Each tile contains all of the hardware necessary to function independently.According to whom?
Intel had a better product and AMD fumbled a few times. They were also cash strapped due to illogical business choices in the mid 2000s, a lawsuit, and a plethora of other issues. Discounting some of the Intel releases in various sections of that decade, the chips Intel were releasing weren't largely leaps and bounds ahead of the prior generation. Alderlake is the first chip generation in years that's been worth buying. The last being Skylake.Well, Intel pretty much crushed AMD for a decade+ and spend enormous $$s pushing their branding on TV, print and the whole Intel Inside program with stickers on every computer that folks bought. Overcoming that kind of momentum is very difficult. Add to that AMD's limited supply of CPUs compared to Intel and, here we are. Hyperscalers are eating 'our' CCDs like they are candy.
Same. I wonder who drew the short straw to end up in that.I'm glad I'm not the one inside that.
if only i knew to buy AMD stocks when they were 2 bucks a pop...OTOH, they've had a rough 12 month period.Intel had a better product and AMD fumbled a few times. They were also cash strapped due to illogical business choices in the mid 2000s, a lawsuit, and a plethora of other issues. Discounting some of the Intel releases in various sections of that decade, the chips Intel were releasing weren't largely leaps and bounds ahead of the prior generation. Alderlake is the first chip generation in years that's been worth buying. The last being Skylake.
6% in r23 is "demolishes" ??? And what about Milan or Milan-x ?Sapphire Rapids it's really bringing it to ThreadRipper. Impressive Performance.
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56-core Xeon 8470 Demolishes Threadripper in New Benchmarks
Sorry, I was clearly being Sarcastic. This thing it's going to get Mauled by Milan and rendered DOA by Genoa which is going to be released earlier than this.6% in r23 is "demolishes" ??? And what about Milan or Milan-x ?
Doesn't Threadripper 3990x scores much higher than EPYC though. It will compete pretty well against Milan EPYC at least.6% in r23 is "demolishes" ??? And what about Milan or Milan-x ?
By the time Sapphire Rapids is released, they would have to fight off High Core, High Speed EPYC Milan(4.1 Ghz), Threadripper PRO 5995WX(4.5 Ghz), Milan-X and the new released GenoaDoesn't Threadripper 3990x scores much higher than EPYC though. It will compete pretty well against Milan EPYC at least.
And we haven't even seen its power usage yet, which to me (expecting it to be high) for a server will kill it unless the performance is consummate.By the time Sapphire Rapids is released, they would have to fight off High Core, High Speed EPYC Milan(4.1 Ghz), Threadripper PRO 5995WX(4.5 Ghz), Milan-X and the new released Genoa
CoolL2 cache despite being 2MB sized and being 16-way has same if not better latency than desktop ADL for 1.25MB with 10 ways.
Also let's just see if they can actually start shipping spr in any meaningful quantity this year.This was Intel's Hopeful if not somewhat already delayed(but still competitive roadmap) back on 2019.
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This is their Roadmap now which makes their Xeons anything but competitive
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Since they used the 52 core 8470 cpu, it should tie with Milan with the 56 core 8480 cpu?Sorry, I was clearly being Sarcastic. This thing it's going to get Mauled by Milan and rendered DOA by Genoa which is going to be released earlier than this.
I mean Intel just can't catch a break. This CPU was supposed to beat Rome(which it barely does) and Fight off with Milan way back on 2020 when 56 vs 64 cores might have been not so bad. But 10nm 56 GC cores vs 5nm 96 Zen4... I just hope for our sake that this is The worst beating intel it's going to get from AMD. They need to catch up real fast
Remember 3990x is just Zen2. Yes Threadripper does tend to have higher clocks, some of the time, but Milan has a significant IPC advantage over it.Doesn't Threadripper 3990x scores much higher than EPYC though. It will compete pretty well against Milan EPYC at least.
3990x can handle 128 threads under win10. Is there some reason why a Sapphire Rapids Xeon couldn't?I'd not read into these results too much. The reality is that average windows software does not support so called processor groups and therefore the maximum threads they can use is 64 ( and what gets assigned to those first 64 is mystery ):
It has nothing to do with Zen2 or SR. If You actually took time to read link to Anandtech's article, You'd see that software either supports "Processor groups" or it doesn't. And if it doesn't it uses 1st processor group of 64 threads and said threads are assigned in ways that depend on Windows SKU and BIOS table.3990x can handle 128 threads under win10. Is there some reason why a Sapphire Rapids Xeon couldn't?
And we haven't even seen its power usage yet.
As it turns out. The 79,150 CineBench R23 MT score was for a 2S(Two socket processor for a total of 104 Cores), And 2S EPYC Rome gets 92,000 points and 2S Milan get's 113,000 points So it's looking Really Really Bad right now for Sapphire Rapids.Since they used the 52 core 8470 cpu, it should tie with Milan with the 56 core 8480 cpu?
There is probably something wrong there with the Intel system, because Golden Cove is EXCEPTIONALLY strong in Cinebench.As it turns out. The 79,150 CineBench R23 MT score was for a 2S(Two socket processor for a total of 108 Cores), And 2S EPYC Rome gets 92,000 points and 2S Milan get's 113,000 points So it's looking Really Really Bad right now for Sapphire Rapids.
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Intel's 52 Core Sapphire Rapids-SP ES CPU is Slower than AMD Epyc 7702P (64 Core) in Cinebench [Report] | Hardware Times
Intel’s 4th Gen Xeon Scalable processors (Sapphire Rapids) are slated to launch in the coming months. Leveraging up to 56 Golden Cove cores across four dies (19 each), these chips will form the foundation of several supercomputers alongside Ponte Vecchio. Chinese tipster YuuKi_AnS has shared...www.hardwaretimes.com
Not looking good for Sapphire Rapids
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