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jpiniero said:
A theoretical Xeon-D was my other thought. Would remove the need for said third party 2D graphics. Or maybe in a future server PCH.
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No, it has to be more than just about saving a few bucks, which is the primary purpose of integrating the simplest configuration.

The AST chip provides more functions than just 2D graphics. Also, frequent change means reduced reliability, and no components go through more radical changes than the GPU. The chip line is probably something that has proven to work with vast different hardware combinations and multiple OSes.
 
Will the 9th gen CPU Metldown/Spectre silicon fixes suffer the same performance penalty as the OS/Microcode patches of today?
Will speculative execution be enabled with vulnerabilities resolved, or will it be silicon-level disabled?
 
Hixbot said:
Will the 9th gen CPU Metldown/Spectre silicon fixes suffer the same performance penalty as the OS/Microcode patches of today?
Will speculative execution be enabled with vulnerabilities resolved, or will it be silicon-level disabled?
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If we knew all that, we could make a lot of money doing some speculative execution of our own...

Disabled? Where'd that come from?
 
I did not know there were desktop Spectre patches out.

My Intel systems are Meltdown patched, but I haven't seen a Spectre patch yet.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I did not know there were desktop Spectre patches out.

My Intel systems are Meltdown patched, but I haven't seen a Spectre patch yet.
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I believe you have to go download a Windows Microsoft Patch your self to patch against it - as it is not pushed to auto update.
 
May be premature to say that it is 8121U, but it does appear real and actually available soon. It wasn't on the NUC roadmap that was leaked earlier so this is new. I wonder what GPU it has...
 
CatMerc said:
There's a 3DMark 11 score, and that tends to detect Turbo. It was locked to 2.2GHz.

Trust me, I considered everything. I simply don't see any other option other than straight up false reading.
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Come on.

The Core i3 8130U has a 2.2GHz base clock and 3.4GHz Turbo. Why would a i3 8121U not have one? I know its its more fun to believe in that its wrong, or that it actually has 50% IPC, but what does a more logical line of reasoning tell you?
 
IntelUser2000 said:
Come on.

The Core i3 8130U has a 2.2GHz base clock and 3.4GHz Turbo. Why would a i3 8121U not have one? I know its its more fun to believe in that its wrong, or that it actually has 50% IPC, but what does a more logical line of reasoning tell you?
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Obviously the boost is more logical. I'm just not certain about that, because there are way too many signs that this thing is locked to 2.2GHz.

We've had a leak about this very same CPU that said it was locked to 2.2GHz long before performance benchmarks, and 3DMark tends to be good at detecting clocks.
 
I'm telling you now, its just not showing the Turbo clocks.

Here's the result for 8130U: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/7890958

Most results are just slightly higher than 8130U, owing to the likely scenario the 8121U having maybe 3.2GHz clock compared to 3.4GHz for the 8130U. Some are drastically better, but Cannonlake likely has some enhancements in a few areas.

You really think it makes sense that Cannonlake, which is a Tick by former Intel standards, having significantly greater advancement than anything else before it? We should remember "Conroe" only happened because some bad decisions were made with Netburst. Prior Intel chips with 5-6 years between them brought only 15-20% gains.
 
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